Detox w/ Klonipin...now craving the k. WTF?
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Badger it's a slippery slope. It's really crucial you do not take more. I went through this, here's how it works- those drugs are in a class called benzodiazapems and they act on your brain in the exact same manner chemically as alcohol- that is why they are prescribed to stave off withdrawal symptoms. They are also highly physically addictive.
Unfortunately it seems pretty evident that most doctors do not explain this to people, beyond saying they are addicitive. Now myself, when I was told they were addictive I thought "Ok so are anti-depressants and you take a few weeks and taper off, no big deal". Benzos are a whole different ball game. Stop now while you're ahead. The withdrawals are just the same as alcohol withdrawals. You are craving the because they affect your brain chemistry the same way alcohol does, like your receptors and that kind of thing, even if you aren't getting a buzz from them like you would from alcohol.
And yes talk with your doctor about tapering off of them safely.
Unfortunately it seems pretty evident that most doctors do not explain this to people, beyond saying they are addicitive. Now myself, when I was told they were addictive I thought "Ok so are anti-depressants and you take a few weeks and taper off, no big deal". Benzos are a whole different ball game. Stop now while you're ahead. The withdrawals are just the same as alcohol withdrawals. You are craving the because they affect your brain chemistry the same way alcohol does, like your receptors and that kind of thing, even if you aren't getting a buzz from them like you would from alcohol.
And yes talk with your doctor about tapering off of them safely.
Self medicating yourself to get yourself off another drug, and then using another drug to get off that one doesn't make a lot of sense Badger...
you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.
If you're just dealing with cravings, why not ride it out?
If it's more than cravings and you're sick why not see a Dr?
If it's a money issue I can give you a list of free clinics, or you can always go to the ER.
Put the shovel down, Badger.
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you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.
If you're just dealing with cravings, why not ride it out?
If it's more than cravings and you're sick why not see a Dr?
If it's a money issue I can give you a list of free clinics, or you can always go to the ER.
Put the shovel down, Badger.
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Are you prescribed the drugs?
It has to end somewhere. You need to taper off.
If you are not prescribed the you'll need to call around and see who will help you get off them. Benzo addiction is rather common, I have found. It may be tricky to find someone who doesn't think you are engaging in drug seeking behavior but it can be done.
It has to end somewhere. You need to taper off.
If you are not prescribed the you'll need to call around and see who will help you get off them. Benzo addiction is rather common, I have found. It may be tricky to find someone who doesn't think you are engaging in drug seeking behavior but it can be done.
Please be careful. I prescribed myself half an oxy pill once for a toothache and I got very sick. Dangerously low blood pressure, I thought I was going to die for a moment.
Benzo withdrawal is hard. But adding more drugs is never a good idea. Mixing benzos and oxy is a bad idea too. Please find a doctor that's willing to help you taper. You can survive the withdrawals. We are here to help you
Benzo withdrawal is hard. But adding more drugs is never a good idea. Mixing benzos and oxy is a bad idea too. Please find a doctor that's willing to help you taper. You can survive the withdrawals. We are here to help you
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I'm not sure what your point is. Withdrawal is when your body medically needs a drug or serious medical complications can arise; cravings are when your mind psychologically needs a drug and no medical complications can arise. So, which is it? If you don't know, then explain your symptoms, use, etc.
Badger, I was on benzos (klonopin) for over 20 years - both when I was and wasn't drinking. I decided I wanted to taper off (as advised by the addiction people). I worked with my pdoc to very, very slowly taper off. It took me a bit over a year after being on them so long but it was not difficult. Most people can taper much faster without problems.
I, too, don't like to take meds and I was told that benzos are generally not a good idea for alcoholics. I tried to taper quickly for that reason but simply couldn't. The gradual method gave me time to adjust. I am now off except for 0.125 mg only very occasionally.
I, too, don't like to take meds and I was told that benzos are generally not a good idea for alcoholics. I tried to taper quickly for that reason but simply couldn't. The gradual method gave me time to adjust. I am now off except for 0.125 mg only very occasionally.
How many mgs of Klonopin are you on? Are you also taking Oxycodone?
If you are using alcohol with Klonopin and Oxys, all of the effects of these drug are potentiated—like respiratory depression, lowered seizure threshold, and, if you read the PDR, you may experience psychiatric symptoms like hallucinations, bizarre thinking and behavior.
You may also suffocate if you have plenty of supply....You are right about cravings and supply are both deadly.
Do you think that you need medical attention?
If you are using alcohol with Klonopin and Oxys, all of the effects of these drug are potentiated—like respiratory depression, lowered seizure threshold, and, if you read the PDR, you may experience psychiatric symptoms like hallucinations, bizarre thinking and behavior.
You may also suffocate if you have plenty of supply....You are right about cravings and supply are both deadly.
Do you think that you need medical attention?
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