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Old 08-07-2015, 06:42 PM
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Everything Dee said is true. had so many thoughts of using sober. over time and work on myself they went away. It did get better and my brain stopped lying to itself, if that makes any sense.
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryFish View Post
Thank you. It is my reason for not wanting to come back. Because my AV has gotten into the realm of insanity.
. I should have considered my answer more carefully. I have thought insane things when drinking.... Things like I am worthless a deserve an awful life. Maybe that's not insane but it is not healthy. You want to stop. So stop and please stay here. Life can be good
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:01 AM
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I felt the drive to drink more when I was sober too Jerry - I called that addiction not insanity.
I drank so much for so long, being drunk was my normal.

I craved my normal. Again I call that maladjustment, not insanity in the true sense of the word.

but - even if there are other issues involved here with you, there's a lot of folks here who deal with mental illness as well Jerry.

There's a lot of help and support, here and in the real world, for whatever is ailing you

I categorically guarantee that things will be better if you get sober and stay that way tho

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Old 08-08-2015, 01:04 AM
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Jerry - I'm not even gonna look for your "crazy" post but I can tell by this thread tho that you really need to be here.

Alcohol brings out the insanity in people. It's so darn dangerous. Not to mention the other issues going on in each one of us.

You sure got Dee talking and with some great advice! Thanks Dee.

I've seen lots of crazy posts on here. Then you kinda see that the person is ok but really really battling this disease. We all need various stages of help.

I definitely think you should stay and keep working thru this.

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Old 08-08-2015, 01:17 AM
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Don't give up, JF. Don't let the AV win.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:36 AM
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jerryfish alcoholic's never ever have a sane relationship with alcohol ever! We neither can drink like other normal people. It is an illness and a disease. Your other post is your addiction speaking not you, alcohol not only pickles the body but the mind too. I am so pleased you are doing something about seeking help on your recovery, its tough to do this alone. Its hard to surrender ourselves to the fact that we are alcoholics and that this is an illness. None of this is your fault okay you are battling a pretty powerful addiction and an illness but thats not to say all is not lost. The only way forward Jerry is complete sobriety and you will of won the battle.... you can do it. Taking back my personal power from alcohol is the best thing I have ever done but ive not done that on my own but Im still early days and have my wobbles. Please come back and let us know how your doing x x blessings to you x x
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:08 AM
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I would love to come back here. The insanity doesn't stop when the alcohol wears off though. When I'm perfectly sober, something tells me to down some more, to get stronger. That is the insanity.

I want to come back, but in exposing my complete driving force behind my drinking, I feel I've established I'm crazy. Which I really am not, just in this area.

This is not to discourage anyone to lay bare their motivations for drinking. I am certain none can come as close to mine and probably will be understandable. Mine are just nuts.

Jerry, with all due respect, and I do say this with care and concern, you are not that special! You are not unique in your addiction to alcohol or even your severely strong dependence on it. Your reasons for wanting to drink even though you are an alcoholic are no more insane or crazy or special or weird or whatever than any other alcoholic who wants to drink. So you think that drinking makes you stronger like lifting weights does. ok, wow, weird, whatever. It doesn't, you know that, so just stop it.

You can stop, you are not a lost cause or a hopeless case.
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:16 AM
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We are all the same, JerryFish - alcoholics in various stages of battling the 'demon' - alcoholics in need of support.

Spend today rehydrating; eat small, light meals; get some fresh air; get plenty of rest; be kind to JerryFish.

Hope to see you soon.
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:28 AM
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JF, thanks for posting, it helped me today.

When I first stopped drinking I couldn't even find a sane thought in my own head. I was going to AA meetings and some of the stuff that came out of my mouth was cuckoo. I knew it, but it came out anyway.

That was in my early days of sobriety and it really freaked me out. Sitting at home drinking I tended to feel really smart, really quick, above everyone and the alcohol gave me inspiration and creativity I couldn't get any other way (so I thought.) In a way it was a connection to the divine - to perfection. Crazy? Slightly. Problem was, I couldn't go two days without a drink without feeling like I wanted to crawl out of my skin. It was a brain disorder, a mental illness that was completely reversible with abstinence and a little introspection.

You are in a safe place, and in a place that can be your sounding board. The delusions will disappear with continuous abstinence to let your brain heal. Like Dee said, there is help for whatever issue you are facing and you can be a whole and healthy person.

We all have the ability to heal our lives.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:54 PM
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How are you doing Jerry?

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Old 08-09-2015, 12:06 PM
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I love this.....

Be kind to JerryFish.

Isn't it ridiculous how hard we are on ourselves.

Again... Be kind to JerryFish and .... Get back here!

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Old 08-09-2015, 12:30 PM
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Hi Jerryfish
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Old 08-09-2015, 01:10 PM
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Thinking of you, JerryFish. Hope to hear from you soon.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:29 PM
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Hi JF, looking forward to hearing from you. Please check-in when you can?
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:37 PM
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I back after 3.5 years away from SR, Jerry. We all have our moments. I can either focus on 2012, which I can never take back, or I can focus on today and tomorrow, which I have complete control over. You can do this!

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Old 08-09-2015, 03:28 PM
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I'm thinking of you too Jerry.
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