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ArtFriend 05-10-2015 03:28 PM

Am I expecting too much?
 
No one called, emailed, texted or otherwise contacted me today to see how I might be feeling on this Mother's Day. I have a HUGE extended family...no one. No friends...nada.

I am feeling rather lonely and angry at the moment. I know people here care... and I appreciate that... but what about my friends and family? They know how close I was to my mom.

Full disclosure - did buy some wine today, but I haven't opened it.

:gaah

Gilmer 05-10-2015 03:30 PM

Dump it. It won't help beyond the first couple gulps, and you'll compound the frustration and disappointment.

2muchpain 05-10-2015 03:39 PM

No, you're not expecting too much. Very sorry that happened to you. Everybody in my family knew how close I was to my mother, but didn't get any calls, but then again, I wasn't expecting any. That wine isn't going to change anything. Why pay a price for others' insensitivity. Remember, your sobriety come first, always. John

gettingsmarter 05-10-2015 03:41 PM

ArtFriend throw that wine out right now. You know where it will take you.

MsJax 05-10-2015 03:42 PM

Please dump it now, art friend. Don't give others your power-that's what drinking over others is :(. I'm sorry about today. My day is awful too but let's just Be Sober. Tomorrow's another gift, you don't want to wake up knowing you drank. Just dump it all right now.

ScottFromWI 05-10-2015 03:42 PM

It's a busy, busy world we live in. And the day has many hours left in it.

Please don't use this as an excuse to drink....honor your mom by dumping out what you have.

mecanix 05-10-2015 03:43 PM

H,A,L,T

You know the acronym ?

Sometimes to get the things we want we have to express those needs to people .
When i got sober i wondered why i didn't then have normal relationships with those people important in my life ..

What i realised is that i'd been drunk for so long that not being in touch and non-comunication was the "normal" for me because i was drunk and absent most of my life .

It might take some time and some diligent work to change the way things are but people soon get used to the "new normal" .

I think it will take some time and some work, there are no magic answers in that bottle , only a temporary trip away from the anxiety and hurt that alcohol caused and will cause again if you let it .

Bestwishes, big inter-web hug, m

strategery 05-10-2015 03:45 PM

Why not reach out to your loved ones versus expecting them to reach out to you? Sometimes it is difficult to know how to approach a loved one on a day where they may be going through a lot. They may be unsure whether to contact you or leave you alone.

doggonecarl 05-10-2015 03:45 PM

I think it's human to have expectations. They aren't always met. When this leads to resentment, that's bad. When unmet expectations and the resentments they cause lead to drinking...that's horrible.

Do you know of anyone who'd appreciate a call from you? Then surprise them. And if they expected it, so much the better.

Dee74 05-10-2015 03:49 PM

I think Carl's idea is great - why not give someone else a call Art?
You may make someone else's day and feel a little better in the process :)

Dump the wine - it's a cul de sac of despair and resentment.

D

Tetra 05-10-2015 03:57 PM

Oh I'm sorry that you feel lonely.
If it helps, my brother is the absolute worst in the world for remembering birthdays, Mothers Day, Fathers Day and all the other stuff.
Sometimes my mom will say to me "you'd think your brother would call his mother on her birthday".
So I e-mail him saying "call mom".
Then I get a message back saying "thanks for the heads-up".

ArtFriend 05-10-2015 03:57 PM

OK...my bad for opening this can of worms. I expect others to be as sensitive as I am and that is my mistake. But there is a bigger issue here. I have ALWAYS been the one who calls...reaches out etc. I am tired of it. Sure, I could call under some pretext about something else. But I won't call to hint around and ask them why they did not call me. Hell no. I have some pride. I can see that people are busy, blah blah blah... but they have never called.... not last year or the year before. So this is a pattern. I am just more aware this time because I am sober. Like I said...I have 28 cousins (just on my mom's side) and I don't know how many second and third cousins.

Just sux that is all.

I gave the wine to my neighbor, unopened.

Hevyn 05-10-2015 03:58 PM

Yes, we do care about you ArtFriend. :hug: I'm glad you wanted to talk about this. People can be disappointing, but nothing's worth your sobriety/sanity.

Hevyn 05-10-2015 04:00 PM

We were posting at the same time - glad you gave the stuff away.

Dee74 05-10-2015 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by ArtFriend (Post 5364506)
OK...my bad for opening this can of worms. I expect others to be as sensitive as I am and that is my mistake. But there is a bigger issue here. I have ALWAYS been the one who calls...reaches out etc. I am tired of it. Sure, I could call under some pretext about something else. But I won't call to hint around and ask them why they did not call me. Hell no. I have some pride. I can see that people are busy, blah blah blah... but they have never called.... not last year or the year before. So this is a pattern. I am just more aware this time because I am sober. Like I said...I have 28 cousins (just on my mom's side) and I don't know how many second and third cousins.

Just sux that is all.

I gave the wine to my neighbor, unopened.

I'm glad you gave the wine away :)

do you think you're the 'go to gal' at least in part expecting something back Art?

I'm not criticising - I was like that too for most of my life.

It pretty much ensures a lasting resentment tho?

D

Anna 05-10-2015 04:12 PM

I'm really sorry, AF. Mother's Day can be an emotional time for women.

I think Dee is right. Expectations have a way of biting us in the butt. I was a people-pleaser for many years and everyone could count on me all the time. I didn't even fully realize that I expected the same in return and was usually disappointed when it didn't happen.

least 05-10-2015 04:18 PM

I have four girls. Got an email from the youngest. I am going to call my oldest after her kids go to bed and have a nice chat.

I'm not upset they didn't call. They call me other times and that's good enough for me. :)

Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die. :(

Mountainmanbob 05-10-2015 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by ArtFriend (Post 5364439)

They know how close I was to my mom.

Full disclosure - did buy some wine today, but I haven't opened it.

Well, you don't mention being a mother yourself ??

Are we just looking for a reason to drink here ? If so ??? We can always find a reason if, we wish to deceive ourselves ?

MM

ArtFriend 05-10-2015 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 5364515)
I'm glad you gave the wine away :)

do you think you're the 'go to gal' at least in part expecting something back Art?

I'm not criticising - I was like that too for most of my life.

It pretty much ensures a lasting resentment tho?

D

I think you hit the nail on the head. I have always subjugated my needs and thought of others first. I did it willingly, hoping that I could make a difference and I really never thought about myself...until the past few years. And yes...it causes resentment when others are too self involved or think I am "just fine". No one can read between the lines? I am too proud to ask for help (except for online forums like this where no one knows who I am). I drop "clues" every so often... but no one picks it up. Damn. I am not a martyr...altho I am beginning to sound like one.

Dee - so how did you overcome this?

ArtFriend 05-10-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountainmanbob (Post 5364541)
Well, you don't mention being a mother yourself ??

I don't have any children MM.


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