Great thread.
Lots of good perspectives.
I know the answer, but to see so many people put their own spin on it really helps cement it. Each reply is really not much different than the other...Moderation doesn't work. But to hear it in so many ways is awesome.

Thanks for starting it and thanks to everyone who posted.

I forget who said it awhile back but for alcoholics there is as much joy found in two cans of tomato juice as there is in two beers. It's just liquid at that point. No buzz. No relaxation. Just liquid.

Moderation
 

It's a no-go area.