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Hi Frank, been awhile, but remember you well. I hate to be so direct Frank, but you need to take some action. You've lost 40 lbs, don't eat and can't sleep. You obviously understand that your health is rapidly deteriorating. I know you want to "talk" but I believe you need more than "talk". Everybody's pulling for you buddy. Keep us posted.

Dude, you're a hard person to help. That ever dawn on you?
Sleep tight. Well, I mean when night time arrives over there on the opposite coast of the good 'ole USA. It's 11:40 pm here and I'm turning in soon. But you are awfully quiet right now. Come out and play.



Hi, Frank --
Here on SR, we get to be pretty attuned to others. Your posted are as drenched in pain as any I've seen.
When it has gotten to that point, inpatient offers so much to the individual who is hurting. You've noted that isolation is a huge issue for you. Inpatient would create a setting in which others can step in and care for you, providing the tools you badly need to move forward. And you would do it in the real-life company of others.
SR is home to lots of people who've successfully completed inpatient treatment. What a huge, huge difference it has made in their lives.
Please take the plunge and go inpatient. I always thought you sounded like a nice guy and you deserve so much better than what life is for you right now. And you clearly need an intensive setting in which to relearn life -- life free of the chains of addiction.
Here on SR, we get to be pretty attuned to others. Your posted are as drenched in pain as any I've seen.
When it has gotten to that point, inpatient offers so much to the individual who is hurting. You've noted that isolation is a huge issue for you. Inpatient would create a setting in which others can step in and care for you, providing the tools you badly need to move forward. And you would do it in the real-life company of others.
SR is home to lots of people who've successfully completed inpatient treatment. What a huge, huge difference it has made in their lives.
Please take the plunge and go inpatient. I always thought you sounded like a nice guy and you deserve so much better than what life is for you right now. And you clearly need an intensive setting in which to relearn life -- life free of the chains of addiction.

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Many thanks again to all who have posted here. It was good to see old friends and meet new ones.
Way back in May Cissy made a cogent post making the case that maybe counting days is not necessarily good. Not sure I'll follow that advice (as most of you have figured out, I'm not great at taking advice) but it did get me thinking . . .
. . . this is Day 3. This thread has 375 posts, 8458 views. That's 94 posts and 2114 views per day of sobriety. At this rate it would take 2820 posts and 63,420 views to reach 30 days. Or if I'm ambitious 34,310 posts and 771,610 views to reach a year,
We've got our work cut out for us.
So I thought I'd start again with The Timeline Of Me. This is mostly for my benefit, but I know I haven't been very forthcoming on this thread so perhaps this will help others understand where I've been.
(Take a deep breath, Me)
* Many years of 'work hard, play hard'. Quite successful in all endeavors.
* Inpatient rehab several years ago
* Inpatient rehab early this year
*4/14/15 Joined SR, suicidal. Several days of hellish self-detox.
*4/14/15 - 5/4/15 Several relapses.
*5/4/15 Left SR in a hissy fit, started drinking again. Not as much, but drinking.
*7/21/15 Came back to SR.
*7/23/15 Venecia posts "Your posts are as drenched in pain as any I've seen". This had a profound effect on me, even though I haven't yet figured out what that effect is.
Well, that's it in a nutshell, sort of a table of contents of upcoming posts. I hope.
Way back in May Cissy made a cogent post making the case that maybe counting days is not necessarily good. Not sure I'll follow that advice (as most of you have figured out, I'm not great at taking advice) but it did get me thinking . . .
. . . this is Day 3. This thread has 375 posts, 8458 views. That's 94 posts and 2114 views per day of sobriety. At this rate it would take 2820 posts and 63,420 views to reach 30 days. Or if I'm ambitious 34,310 posts and 771,610 views to reach a year,
We've got our work cut out for us.

So I thought I'd start again with The Timeline Of Me. This is mostly for my benefit, but I know I haven't been very forthcoming on this thread so perhaps this will help others understand where I've been.
(Take a deep breath, Me)
* Many years of 'work hard, play hard'. Quite successful in all endeavors.
* Inpatient rehab several years ago
* Inpatient rehab early this year
*4/14/15 Joined SR, suicidal. Several days of hellish self-detox.
*4/14/15 - 5/4/15 Several relapses.
*5/4/15 Left SR in a hissy fit, started drinking again. Not as much, but drinking.
*7/21/15 Came back to SR.
*7/23/15 Venecia posts "Your posts are as drenched in pain as any I've seen". This had a profound effect on me, even though I haven't yet figured out what that effect is.
Well, that's it in a nutshell, sort of a table of contents of upcoming posts. I hope.

Excellent post Frank your doing seriously amazing on day 3 & i agree Venecia is awesome
From all of that i saw you really want to be sober & free of it & im glad really happy in fact that your here on day 3 you have a seriously cool name im biased as i love lost and i got into it roughly when i met you so you possibly could have influenced me into becoming a lostie
In all congratulations Frank if you ever want to talk vent whatever feel free to send a msg
Spk soon bud
From all of that i saw you really want to be sober & free of it & im glad really happy in fact that your here on day 3 you have a seriously cool name im biased as i love lost and i got into it roughly when i met you so you possibly could have influenced me into becoming a lostie
In all congratulations Frank if you ever want to talk vent whatever feel free to send a msg
Spk soon bud

Frank --
I hope that my observation didn't salt any wounds. That wasn't my intent. If it leads to introspection, then I think that has to be good.
We recognize parts of ourselves in others. When I was drunk, it amplified my loneliness many times over. And it's safe to say that I reached a point when I loathed alcohol even as I poured it down my throat.
But if we're actively alcoholic, there are still the parts of us that we wish could be the whole of us. Our qualities that get pushed to the margins the moment we open the bottle.
When sober, you've shown those qualities. Intelligence and a quick wit. I still remember something along the lines of "one small step for Frank, one giant leap for the dairy industry" when you were chugging milk during times of clarity.
So you've done inpatient before. Time to retrace your footsteps and see what didn't "take." Maybe another stint? I don't know. I do know I hope that you can find wellness this time.
And it is possible. After all, if we can put a man on the moon ...
I hope that my observation didn't salt any wounds. That wasn't my intent. If it leads to introspection, then I think that has to be good.
We recognize parts of ourselves in others. When I was drunk, it amplified my loneliness many times over. And it's safe to say that I reached a point when I loathed alcohol even as I poured it down my throat.
But if we're actively alcoholic, there are still the parts of us that we wish could be the whole of us. Our qualities that get pushed to the margins the moment we open the bottle.
When sober, you've shown those qualities. Intelligence and a quick wit. I still remember something along the lines of "one small step for Frank, one giant leap for the dairy industry" when you were chugging milk during times of clarity.
So you've done inpatient before. Time to retrace your footsteps and see what didn't "take." Maybe another stint? I don't know. I do know I hope that you can find wellness this time.
And it is possible. After all, if we can put a man on the moon ...

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