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Old 11-21-2014, 02:28 PM
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First post--for the 2bd time.

Edit. "2nd time".

Hello

I wrote a long intro before but my computer went ****-up. Very frustrating.

I have just signed up. One of the first questions I was asked was what date I had been sober from. I'm not yet there and hoping to get to that place within days via cessation--a few years back I did 100 days off but within the first night I had icy sweats, night terrors and the shakes, but I made it through and within a day of reaching my target I was a drunk again.

I've been advised against cold turkey from my doctor today for the reasons above. I finally used the term 'alcoholic' with my wife yesterday and my doc today. It was a relief.

The trouble is, I'm not sure I can trim down. To be fair I am amazed at to how I managed those 100 days. I probably drink around 200 to 250 units a week and can barely get out of bed in the morning for work. I understand I have an addictive personality and for many years I balanced that with less alcohol and more exercise--a lot of it!

This is my first attempt to reach out and connect with others. Sorry if I waffled on.

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Old 11-21-2014, 02:34 PM
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We are all here for you. Listen to everything your doctor says... Confide in your loved ones... Dig up support wherever you can get it.

There is no shame in what you are going through. Hold your chin up high knowing you care enough about yourself and your loved ones to make this magnificent change in your life.

If you can do 100 days you can do 1000 an 10000 and 100000x. All one beautiful sober day at a time.

God bless best luck and do not forget to lean on support such as this forum and your family when you need to .
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Welcome to the forum Prezzo
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Originally Posted by StillThought View Post
We are all here for you. Listen to everything your doctor says... Confide in your loved ones... Dig up support wherever you can get it.

There is no shame in what you are going through. Hold your chin up high knowing you care enough about yourself and your loved ones to make this magnificent change in your life.

If you can do 100 days you can do 1000 an 10000 and 100000x. All one beautiful sober day at a time.

God bless best luck and do not forget to lean on support such as this forum and your family when you need to .
Thank you still for your kind words.

I thought that when I did 100 back then I could do more again and easily... but alas I could not.

Please don't take this one element the wrong way. It may be a cultural thing, but for me when I hear the 'god' word I retreat as I am an atheist--recovering catholic and later Christian--and so I don't want this to be an affront to you. I just need to be honest. No fighting please.

I'm hoping that this time, if I reach out to people and am honest to all those around me I may be able to make it through. I'm yet to tell my parents when I next see them that I am an alcoholic and not just a ****-head.

Thank you once again for your support.
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Welcome to the forum Prezzo
Thank you. Thank you very much. Am I allowed to swear? If I am then f**k it feel good to finally admit what I am. What I have become and that I don't think I can have any kind of safe relationship with alcohol.
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Welcome Peter. You will find a lot of support and understanding here. You've taken a good first step. Keep reading and posting.

I would definitely keep working with your doctor to detox safely.
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Originally Posted by HenryKrinkle View Post
Welcome Peter. You will find a lot of support and understanding here. You've taken a good first step. Keep reading and posting.

I would definitely keep working with your doctor to detox safely.
Thank you Henry.

I love your Sig btw. I am a humanist. Well, I work at being one.
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Welcome Peter

Did the doc offer you any help or any more advice at all with cutting down ? Counselling or groups you can go to ?

There's always some ne to talk to here, 24/7 if you need support.

Glad you're here.
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Originally Posted by JanieJ View Post
Welcome Peter

Did the doc offer you any help or any more advice at all with cutting down ? Counselling or groups you can go to ?

There's always some ne to talk to here, 24/7 if you need support.

Glad you're here.
Thanks JanieJ

The doc said that someone will contact me in the next 3 weeks.

Well, my lady wife has just come downstairs; I gave her a few more honest points about where I am now, which resulted in a huge argument.

All I feel like doing now is chugging a bottle of something... and that is awfully selfish. Bugger. I need to do this.
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Hi Prezzo,
Welcome.
Just a head's up.
Please know that there will be a lot of religion/spirituality/Higher Power talk in almost all recovery circles.
There is a Secular Forum here. Check it out.

You may be tempted to avoid AA because of this.
That would be a shame.
It would be a great support for you.
Just ignore the religious stuff and go for the friendship and understanding.

I would be slow to talk to too many people at the beginning.
They do not understand if they are not alcoholics and it is impossible to un-ring a bell.
I have regretted telling people.

I wish you the very best.
It will be tough but worth it.
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Sorry,
I didn't explain.
The 12 steps are based on finding a higher power, but there are many who find sobriety through 12 steps and do not have a higher power/belief.
They may use nature, etc.
We can't just stop drinking.
There is a change needed.
We are made a bit different and we have to adapt to the world sober.
Change what isn't working.
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It's great to meet you Peter. I think it'll really help you to be here. I was filled with anxiety when I found SR - knowing I wasn't alone made all the difference.
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Originally Posted by Hollyanne View Post
Hi Prezzo,
Welcome.
Just a head's up.
Please know that there will be a lot of religion/spirituality/Higher Power talk in almost all recovery circles.
There is a Secular Forum here. Check it out.

You may be tempted to avoid AA because of this.
That would be a shame.
It would be a great support for you.
Just ignore the religious stuff and go for the friendship and understanding.

I would be slow to talk to too many people at the beginning.
They do not understand if they are not alcoholics and it is impossible to un-ring a bell.
I have regretted telling people.

I wish you the very best.
It will be tough but worth it.
Thank you Hollyanne.

I want to avoid heading down a secular route as I don't want my alcoholism to be defined either way... which may be hard. It's a human issue, and WOW, what a hard one it is!

I'm avoiding AA because I fear I may see past clients there. Terrifying.
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It's great to meet you Peter. I think it'll really help you to be here. I was filled with anxiety when I found SR - knowing I wasn't alone made all the difference.
Cheers Hevyn (cheers he says, like it was a glasses chinking moment).

Anxiety is high and it may well be a long time before/if my wife talks to me again.

I'm selfishly hoping that here I may find people to connect with.
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Welcome to the family. We offer a lot of support and useful info here. I hope it can help you to get sober for good.

For my sobriety, I went to a counselor once a week and came here every day. Coming up on five years now and just wish I'd stopped drinking sooner.
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Welcome to the family. We offer a lot of support and useful info here. I hope it can help you to get sober for good.

For my sobriety, I went to a counselor once a week and came here every day. Coming up on five years now and just wish I'd stopped drinking sooner.
That sounds delicious. If only I could tap into what made me do those 100 days and carry on, I'd be in secular heaven.

5 years! Brilliant. Hats off to you--and I have about 30 hats so that's a lot of hats off.
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I understand that too.
I regret going to a local meeting.
If you go to AA, go to a meeting a half hour away in a city.
If you meet someone you know, they are probably avoiding the local meetings too!
And remember, they are all there for the same reason.
I have no interest in religion. Lectures, guilt, etc.
Not interested.
My beliefs are mine and private.
There is just something so helpful about being around people who know what you are going through. Who understand our heads.
My sister (not an alcoholic) was so involved at the beginning but drove me nuts!
Her most memorable moment was when she got angry for me saying she did not understand. (She wanted me to go to Rehab as soon as I drank after saying I think I got it.)
She said, "I do understand, I can't eat a bag of crisps without wanting more!"
OK, righhhhhttt, that is exactly it.
Do you loose days and weeks of your life?, isolate?, call in sick? etc......
I didn't bother arguing. Just told her I would handle it.
4 years sober now.
Had a drinking dream last night!
Haven't had one of them for a long time.
Yuck!

I will give you my biggee to get you started,
H.A.L.T!
Hungry,
Angry,
Lonely,
Tired.
Identify, and treat!!!
I have to go to bed now soon.
It is late.
For you too!
Read here, and do check out the Secular side too.
There is loads on here to help.
Read, read, read.
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these have their own websites (to add to here, SR, as support)

rational recovery
smart
avrt
life ring
sos
women for sobriety (of course, it's for women)

and probably others I've missed.

glad you found SR!
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By the way,
I was off drink for two years and drank again, long story, but wicked getting sober the second time around.
And, the more I tried to quit, the more I drank!
Madness.
Got it though.
The trick this time?
No matter what happens, I do not drink.
Not an option.
I know from experience, the bad/sad/mad mood will probably pass after a day or two.
If I drink, it might take me out for a year or forever.
Serious business.
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I understand that too.
I regret going to a local meeting.
If you go to AA, go to a meeting a half hour away in a city.
If you meet someone you know, they are probably avoiding the local meetings too!
And remember, they are all there for the same reason.
I have no interest in religion. Lectures, guilt, etc.
Not interested.
My beliefs are mine and private.
There is just something so helpful about being around people who know what you are going through. Who understand our heads.
My sister (not an alcoholic) was so involved at the beginning but drove me nuts!
Her most memorable moment was when she got angry for me saying she did not understand. (She wanted me to go to Rehab as soon as I drank after saying I think I got it.)
She said, "I do understand, I can't eat a bag of crisps without wanting more!"
OK, righhhhhttt, that is exactly it.
Do you loose days and weeks of your life?, isolate?, call in sick? etc......
I didn't bother arguing. Just told her I would handle it.
4 years sober now.
Had a drinking dream last night!
Haven't had one of them for a long time.
Yuck!

I will give you my biggee to get you started,
H.A.L.T!
Hungry,
Angry,
Lonely,
Tired.
Identify, and treat!!!
I have to go to bed now soon.
It is late.
For you too!
Read here, and do check out the Secular side too.
There is loads on here to help.
Read, read, read.
Thank you.

Those 2 words may seem like very little in response to what you have said--but they did resonate. I do thank you.

For the latter portion, I'll check out the secular side (if I can even find it), but I guess it's a global positioning thing. Here in the UK being an atheist is less than a big thing. Me, I'm an anti-theist (for my life) these days (a while new matter) and so for me there's no need to draw a line. If there is for us addicts, well, that would make me truly sad. I'll shut up now. I'm drunk but want to be sober and never back in this dark corridor of my life again--although I know my subconscious will be here to tempt me back in again tomorrow.

Thank you all.

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