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Old 09-02-2014, 12:33 PM
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleBarrel View Post
I never ran out of money either. I could drink all I wanted to. I think that's worse in some ways.
So you just have one thing to decide. If you want to live or die.
I've counseled dozens of addicts/alcoholics over the last several years and the vast majority have been from financially well-off families.
Money or not doesn't matter. A substance abuser is a substance abuser regardless of what their watch cost.
Congrats on facing reality and making the effort to fix your problem.
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:28 PM
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I Can't believe I would write such a cringeworthy thread I sound like an immature spoilt fool... Embarrassing!!

Just Another reason to stay sober I guess!!
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I Can't believe I would write such a cringeworthy thread I sound like an immature spoilt fool... Embarrassing!!

Just Another reason to stay sober I guess!!
When these things pass and you can look back and be OK about it, you may be the one to help another who is going through similar to what you have experienced or experiencing, been there done that to.
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:30 PM
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:31 PM
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Lionhearted... you really can get sober. And SR is a great resource, lots of amazing people here. We all have good things about us that will enable us to pull ourselves out of the drunken pit. We ALL have strengths as well as weaknesses.

Open your mind up to the possibility that you too can do this. We know you can
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:42 PM
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I was a high functioning alcoholic with a high income; it was hardest then to face up to facts and do something about it. Good health has to be at the foundation.
You can have both good health and good wealth. Priorities just have to change.
Alcohol can distort the way we look at our behaviour. I believed that by drinking away the negatives I was increasing the positives. Not true!
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:55 PM
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If you are an Active alcoholic, you are by no means rich. A DRY alcoholic is by far the richer

Richness is not always measured by wealth of money

Just my opinion
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:57 PM
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Lionhearted1, IMHO everything that can be said to you has been said to you. Now it's up to you to decide whether you are going to jump in, just like so many of us have, and do the hard work required to deal with your alcoholism.

So, waddya say? Are you ready? What better time than now?
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:19 PM
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I have struggled in recent years; alcohol has affected my mental and physical health; I am back on day 4. But the more I stay sober, the more I have learned about myself. I see relationships, everything, improve when I am sober.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionhearted1 View Post
I Can't believe I would write such a cringeworthy thread I sound like an immature spoilt fool... Embarrassing!!

Just Another reason to stay sober I guess!!
I have been back to some of my previous posts a few times. Yikes!!

When we are active in our addiction everything is really distorted. Good news is that with sobriety comes clarity of how things really are without looking trough a magnifying glass.

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Old 09-03-2014, 05:27 PM
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Interesting post. I guess you figured you can't take the money with you... Thinking about this I guess we are all on the same 'money' playing field when we die. I'm not going to say my best day sober is better than my best day drunk... But I will say my life is much better sober than drinking. Money or no money...There are plenty of rich people who died too early from addiction. Wasn't there a billionaire in the news last year who OD'd?...

This is a tough saying I heard in my early sober days. Too 'PC' in these times but I'll defend it. "Some of us must die for others to live."

Now, I hope you are one to live a long a sober life. I pray you don't die early or drag out a long and painful life of addiction. After all you aren't the only person your addiction effects.

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Still drinking and still making money hand over fist, the funny thing is people say you can't be rich and an active alcoholic.. Come see my life!!
The money keeps me in denial, the resources keep me drinking.... Could go best rehab for as long as i won't or therapy... But don't...

I suppose iam going to die, and I welcome death! Iam that sick off this ****!!!! I know the 12 steppers are gunna pipe up and tell me I ain't hit bottom etc etc.

I know I sound like a rich man moaning, the truth is I come from the streets and I had a monster step dad. I love my mum but hate her for letting us live like that....

Rant over... Probably gunna get heavy drinkers commenting as I feel this place has more non alcoholics than the real deals.... But anyways!

Rant over. To the real deals... Your more amazing than you know.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:39 PM
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Lionhearted,
I am, let's just say comfortable for life. I saw Tesla coming and since the low prices of the buying opportunities here in 2007/8/9 when everyone else was selling off I bought for all three of those years, then just when I despaired of ever getting the opportunity to invest in the coming EV revolution, they IPO'd in 2010 and I went all in long term. That was when they were at 17 and 22.50. I bought in three times and held on for the long term. That was done just after I got out of detox. Thank goodness I was sober enough just in time to pull that trigger.

Perhaps I can share with you that I despaired also of never being able to get free of the self imprisonment of drinking. I finally found a seven day in hospital safe detox and a follow on 28 day rehab with a veteran's hospital over here called the VA. I did the detox but quit the rehab after three or four days, because I had a great home and family unlike the other 18 folks there save three. I just could not quit for a day when I was drinking, and tomorrow never came. I thought if I could just get the alcohol safely out of my system and had that much of a head start I would never return to the degradation that is ten times worse that the disdain of my fellow men. The loss of my self-respect and dignity topped that by far. I disgusted myself, then drank to live with the disgust. It is the snake with its tail in its mouth. I've been there too. Now perhaps, you might decide if you want to give yourself the second chance we all gave ourselves whether we felt we deserved it or not. I'm not a 12 stepper but that might work for you or not. There are several major methods of recovery and the best is the one that works for you. Not me, you. Try a detox and tell your friends you are going to a health resort. But like you nothing from without had any effect until I was done. No preaching or scare tactics had any effect on me. And by the time I realized how bad it was it was far beyond an easy out. But then who would do this knowingly? You won't stop until you will it. Some never do and you know that.

I hope you decide to start on your recovery. We will be here for support.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:11 PM
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If I hadn't gone broke I may have never quit drinking. I hope you don't have to get that low lion.

Here are two choices. Quit drinking and use your money to find a new hobby.
Or
Keep drinking and making money hand over fist and put me in your will cause drinking will kill you.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:18 PM
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What's money got to do with anything? Many of us are very wealthy....alcoholism doesn't care. Why bring $ up??? Weird.

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Old 09-03-2014, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionhearted1 View Post
I Can't believe I would write such a cringeworthy thread I sound like an immature spoilt fool... Embarrassing!!

Just Another reason to stay sober I guess!!
Lionhearted, I think this post shows how lionhearted you are. It's a brave person who can write like this in the face of embarrassment, you are much greater than your addiction, never forget that.
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:50 PM
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Lionhearted1 - I must say that I have to put you to the test. Take a look at the out of the money call options on KMI / KMP / KMR and EPB deal and tell me what you see. You should be able to figure it out by the time your markets open in London time. Or, in your case, you should be able to instruct one of your more competent analysts to crunch the numbers overnight. There is some solid volume there too at certain strikes. I realize that a fund your size probably wouldn't have the time to pick up pennies like that, but I would be curious to get your read of the market.
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Old 09-04-2014, 01:41 AM
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For a long time I didn't think I was a "real alcoholic" which is exactly why I couldn't quit. I thought I could drink, I just had to moderate what I drank. I think I'm a real alcoholic because when I drink my life sure takes a nosedive.

As far as money, I think you were drinking when you posted. When I lived in London once upon a time, the rule was that the rich pleaded poverty. Boy was I shocked when my roommate who was always "skint" took me to his family home in Kent. A huge estate with horse stables. The place was huge, the ceiling high, servants...but he had gone to boarding school and barely knew his way around the place. But he always pleaded poverty. I am not saying I doubt you one bit, just saying I'm aware you were intoxicated when you wrote this post.

That is one thing I am so relieved about, waking up and not wondering OMG did I email? post something on Facebook? I used to check my sent mail and re-read anything that went out.

Don't have to do that now and hopefully never again! but if you want to post a rant, this is the best place to do so because we've all been there.
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Old 09-04-2014, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OpioPhobe View Post
Lionhearted1 - I must say that I have to put you to the test. Take a look at the out of the money call options on KMI / KMP / KMR and EPB deal and tell me what you see. You should be able to figure it out by the time your markets open in London time. Or, in your case, you should be able to instruct one of your more competent analysts to crunch the numbers overnight. There is some solid volume there too at certain strikes. I realize that a fund your size probably wouldn't have the time to pick up pennies like that, but I would be curious to get your read of the market.
Hi good morning, we specialise in investing in rent ready properties/ distressed properties at a deep discount throughout the uk, then we sell after 5 years at a profit of around 25-35 %.
Hence the reason why we have a large property Maintance company also.

Sorry to disappoint but won't be able to give you any tips regarding the kinder Morgan merger, but if you have any feel free to pm me. 👍

Hope your well and sober. Peace
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