Throwing up bile.
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I had this too - lots of dry heaves and then you are almost wishing for something to come out. And then you'd get the bile and you'd just know that this shouldn't be happening. Your body doesn't like what you've done to it and it's letting you know. After a really heavy night, the morning coffee wouldn't stay in the stomach long either. I really don't want to go through that again.
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Originally Posted by Deckard 
Reminds me of this great passage from the Big Book:
"Our behavior is as absurd and incomprehensible with respect to the first drink as that of an individual with a passion, say, for jay-walking. He gets a thrill out of skipping in front of fast-moving vehicles. He enjoys himself for a few years in spite of friendly warnings. Up to this point you would label him as a foolish chap having queer ideas of fun. Luck then deserts him and he is slightly injured several times in succession. You would expect him, if he were normal, to cut it out. Presently he is hit again and this time has a fractured skull. Within a week after leaving the hospital a fast-moving trolley car breaks his arm. He tells you he has decided to stop jay-walking for good, but in a few weeks he breaks both legs.
"On through the years this conduct continues, accompanied by his continual promises to be careful or to keep off the streets altogether. Finally, he can no longer work, his wife gets a divorce and he is held up to ridicule. He tries every known means to get the jay-walking idea out of his head. He shuts himself up in an asylum, hoping to mend his ways. But the day he comes out he races in front of a fire engine, which breaks his back. Such a man would be crazy, wouldn’t he?
"You may think our illustration is too ridiculous. But is it?…"
"Our behavior is as absurd and incomprehensible with respect to the first drink as that of an individual with a passion, say, for jay-walking. He gets a thrill out of skipping in front of fast-moving vehicles. He enjoys himself for a few years in spite of friendly warnings. Up to this point you would label him as a foolish chap having queer ideas of fun. Luck then deserts him and he is slightly injured several times in succession. You would expect him, if he were normal, to cut it out. Presently he is hit again and this time has a fractured skull. Within a week after leaving the hospital a fast-moving trolley car breaks his arm. He tells you he has decided to stop jay-walking for good, but in a few weeks he breaks both legs.
"On through the years this conduct continues, accompanied by his continual promises to be careful or to keep off the streets altogether. Finally, he can no longer work, his wife gets a divorce and he is held up to ridicule. He tries every known means to get the jay-walking idea out of his head. He shuts himself up in an asylum, hoping to mend his ways. But the day he comes out he races in front of a fire engine, which breaks his back. Such a man would be crazy, wouldn’t he?
"You may think our illustration is too ridiculous. But is it?…"
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Originally Posted by Sydney1988
I find it so odd that I'm taking comfort in a strangers words. But I am. I want to stop, but it's so delicious.....
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So I've woken up (literally, not figuratively) and that feeling's back. I know it's going to happen. I just want it over and done with. Luckily I have a repair man coming to fix something in a couple of hours so I know I won't have a drink until after they're gone. Or is that lucky? Hmm.
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You can make a different choice today Sydney.
Instead of going out to get more booze you could sit here and read and post,. or make that Drs appointment, go to an AA meeting.
Not drinking today won't be fun - you will probably get upset, infuriated and wildly emotional - but not drinking today is possible.
If you feel it's not safe for you to go cold turkey - and I'm in two minds myself reading your posts - then you NEED to see a Dr - today....no ifs ands or buts
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Instead of going out to get more booze you could sit here and read and post,. or make that Drs appointment, go to an AA meeting.
Not drinking today won't be fun - you will probably get upset, infuriated and wildly emotional - but not drinking today is possible.
If you feel it's not safe for you to go cold turkey - and I'm in two minds myself reading your posts - then you NEED to see a Dr - today....no ifs ands or buts
D
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just tell the doctor the truth. The only shame would be lying. I mean whats the point of going to the doctor if we are just going to lie? You don't get the help you need that way. And what you are going through doesn't sound like the "fun" you call it....not at all. That throwing up bile....that's your body trying to get rid of the poison you are putting into it. That doesn't sound like much "fun" either. You might want to consider NOT waiting for the appt. tomorrow and just go to the hospital tonight.
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Sydney I'm really glad you made that appointment with the doctor. As for what to say ... how about the truth? Doctors being doctors they are trained to recognise symptoms for what they are, even though we drinkers often kid ourselves that if we don't tell them how much we drink they'll never guess. I know because I was like that until last year.
My mornings always started with me coughing, partly from the booze also from tobacco. Depending on how hard I'd been going the night before the cough might just be a dry cough which hurt my ribs and made me feel sick, it might have been retching dry heaves, the worst was the razing cough that brought up bile. Then, with luck, I'd go and have a tiny bit of water and a shower or I'd stagger back to bed.
I hadn't begun drinking in the morning so it didn't occur to me to have an alcoholic drink.
By late morning I'd be ready to stomach food, usually something fatty and sugary. After lunch the reflux would start, then the afternoon sleepiness would kick in.
That was eleven months ago, last February I went to the doctor in desperation, SR followed, I've been sober and nicotine-free since. My life has no parallel with those awful days when I felt so bad every morning and most of the afternoon.
If you are honest with the doctor tomorrow, if you stay close reading and posting at SR this can be your story too. I really want that for you Sydney.
My mornings always started with me coughing, partly from the booze also from tobacco. Depending on how hard I'd been going the night before the cough might just be a dry cough which hurt my ribs and made me feel sick, it might have been retching dry heaves, the worst was the razing cough that brought up bile. Then, with luck, I'd go and have a tiny bit of water and a shower or I'd stagger back to bed.
I hadn't begun drinking in the morning so it didn't occur to me to have an alcoholic drink.
By late morning I'd be ready to stomach food, usually something fatty and sugary. After lunch the reflux would start, then the afternoon sleepiness would kick in.
That was eleven months ago, last February I went to the doctor in desperation, SR followed, I've been sober and nicotine-free since. My life has no parallel with those awful days when I felt so bad every morning and most of the afternoon.
If you are honest with the doctor tomorrow, if you stay close reading and posting at SR this can be your story too. I really want that for you Sydney.
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If you are honest with the doctor tomorrow, if you stay close reading and posting at SR this can be your story too. I really want that for you Sydney.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I want that too. It's just a bit scary.
Thank you. I want that too. It's just a bit scary.
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Originally Posted by freethinking
When I was at my most physically addicted, I got the dry heaves and/or would throw up bile when I was withdrawing in the morning. The only thing that would stop it was a morning drink....which was an awful way to start the day...and got me even more physically addicted.
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Hi Sydney, I'm terrible when I go the docs, I have been known, if I do not know him or my trust isn't fully secure, I've not told them the truth why I am there.
So, if I have any qualms about what I'm going to say I write it down then if I cannot tell them I give them my note. Strange, I know, but it works for me. Take care x
So, if I have any qualms about what I'm going to say I write it down then if I cannot tell them I give them my note. Strange, I know, but it works for me. Take care x
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Just breathe. THe dr will have heard something like your story a hundred times. You won't be the first or the last. It's worse in your head than it will be in reality, I promise. I have a friend in the program who is also a doctor and we talked about this once. She said it's a common issue for people to bring up.
Keep in mind that there is a part of you that wants you to keep drinking and will try to convince you NOT to get well and seek help.
Keep in mind that there is a part of you that wants you to keep drinking and will try to convince you NOT to get well and seek help.
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Originally Posted by Sydney1988
I really want to talk to a dr about it tomorrow. But I'm so afraid that I'll freeze. I've already written it down. I just don't know how I'm going to handle it tomorrow.
My wagon's in the mud.
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Really good to have a chat with a Doctor, but I always retched in the morning. I could never brush my teeth first thing as it would 'cause the heaves.
Been sober 41 days, no more retching.
Been sober 41 days, no more retching.
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