Am I an alcoholic?
Precious1-
There are programs that discourage the use of the term alcoholic. I too hate that label and do not use it. Maybe you could try finding a hobby. Get involved with people who share your similar interests not your similar ex-problem.
Just a thought,
Jess
There are programs that discourage the use of the term alcoholic. I too hate that label and do not use it. Maybe you could try finding a hobby. Get involved with people who share your similar interests not your similar ex-problem.
Just a thought,
Jess
some in AA say "they are in recovery"
others in AA say "that they are recovered"
I believe that I'm recovered unless I take another drink
then all goes out the door
seems a topic for a new thread ??
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I've been sober 2 years, 4 months plus. I started my sobriety journey 5 years ago when I read A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle. I have always been anxious, a worrier, ruminated about all the what ifs. I had a stressful time with family issues 20 years ago. This is when I started drinking to escape the stress. My father was a serious alcoholic and I knew I didn't want to end up like him so whenever I felt I was drinking too much, I'd rein it in. Until I read A New Earth, I thought I was okay. I began the process of knowing I choose my emotions, choose my thoughts and choose my actions. Once I "woke up" to this self awareness, there was no going back. A few years ago, I drank too much at a party and said things I regretted. Not horrible or train wreck life changing things but enough that I could not ignore it. I was self loathing, apologetic and wanted to change. I saw my doctor the next week and confessed I was drinking a bottle or more of wine a night and unable to stop once I had a glass. I never drank during the day. My family was not begging me to stop or get help. But there was this voice in my head of disappointment and awareness that this is not the path my life was supposed to be on. I wanted to live in the moment, learn to embrace everything life had to offer and get off the pity party. I told my husband that day that I was quitting drinking per my doctor's orders and that I wanted his support. That was it. It was that simple. I didn't go to AA. I had a bad taste in my mouth from another family member who had told me years prior that the Big Book and AA were the only way to recovery. My previous (bad) experience with zealot Christians sent a red flag that I didn't want anyone telling me there is only one way to get saved, either from alcohol or hell. I read many spiritual books, saw a Shaman for some inner healing that transformed my sense of being. I have felt fantastic and have ZERO desire to drink or spend time with people who are abusing alcohol. I have made new friends and focus on my family. But recently I was invited and attended my first AA meeting. I didn't fee like I fit in because I didn't want to identify myself as an alcoholic. Well, I wanted to say it to fit in but I don't proclaim that kind of negativity into my life. I wake up daily and say positive gratitude statements about who I am and what I am thankful for. Declaring I am diseased or sick just doesn't fit me. I am alcohol free is what I am. I am happy, healthy and totally alive. I struggle with spending. That is a real addiction. So I pulled out the Big Book that I inherited when my father died 25 years ago and started reading it.
I don't feel I have a disease. I don't feel I am in denial. If I delude myself into believing I can handle booze, I know I will fail. I have had deaths in my family, health crises and other major stresses since I quit alcohol and have not been tempted.
So my question is does one really need to declare they are an alcoholic if they don't feel that accurately defines them? I see how others are, like my father, who could not quit drinking on his own, ruined his life, ruined his children's lives, lost his career and finally quit when he went to jail. But that is't me at all. Not even close, How do you define problem drinking with a strong family history, which is how I would describe myself? I am a probable alcoholic if I drink. But I choose differently.
And I am doing many of the things AA advocates on my own, making amends, changing my thinking, owning my behavior and most importantly forgiving myself and living a better life. I started reading the Big Book and trying to apply what fits without rejecting it all because some of it works, while some it if doesn't.
I don't feel I have a disease. I don't feel I am in denial. If I delude myself into believing I can handle booze, I know I will fail. I have had deaths in my family, health crises and other major stresses since I quit alcohol and have not been tempted.
So my question is does one really need to declare they are an alcoholic if they don't feel that accurately defines them? I see how others are, like my father, who could not quit drinking on his own, ruined his life, ruined his children's lives, lost his career and finally quit when he went to jail. But that is't me at all. Not even close, How do you define problem drinking with a strong family history, which is how I would describe myself? I am a probable alcoholic if I drink. But I choose differently.
And I am doing many of the things AA advocates on my own, making amends, changing my thinking, owning my behavior and most importantly forgiving myself and living a better life. I started reading the Big Book and trying to apply what fits without rejecting it all because some of it works, while some it if doesn't.
You sound exactly like me! You should read my story in the stories section. I never went to AA, but I did pray and begged to be freed of the desperation and anxiety I was trapped in over 2 years ago. Then one day, I woke up and quit. Day after day, I focused on my own personal growth and the world around me. I changed everything around me. I think its easy to get consumed with selfish thoughts when dealing with addiction, but I try to live outside myself and to be a good person. I know if I drink, I will be right back in that prison I was once in and had created for myself. I look at my sobriety as a gift, as well as the changes that followed. I have no intention of ever giving all that up for something as stupid as a liquid that makes me act stupid, because I dont want to limit myself and my life in that way ever again. Great post!
Labels do not matter. If alcohol is a problem, you have a problem with alcohol. Sounds like you are dealing with it very well. If there is a need or want to label, choose one that fits to your satisfaction.
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I don't have an issue with labels as long as I feel they are accurate. For example, I am an ex-smoker. I am an ex-wife, step-mother, etc. Not necessarily labels I think are positive but they describe that part of me without explanation. I thought AA would be a good social outlet, and I could benefit, but I can't get past the introductions. I don't feel this is my ego. I have no problem admitting that I have an alcohol problem that has one solution, total abstinence. I'm working my program. I feel good about the path I've taken, but this AA sort of stopped me, the idea that these declarations need to be made in order to participate. I don't think we are all the same, though we have some things in common and can learn from one another. My bigger issue is when I talk to others, how I word my self description. Maybe I don't. Maybe I just do what I have been doing all along.
I see open minds here and a lot of positive support. I have plenty of hobbies and interests, but I find most social settings involve drinking and it would be nice to attend parties where that isn't the focus. Perhaps, I should join some sort of spiritual group/church that isn't religious. I have been avoiding taking a title as to what I am with friends and family because I don't want to make any declarations that I don't feel good about. I've said I don't drink any more because it was a problem and let them sort it out. But when I went to the AA meeting, I was told that this is how you introduce yourself. So I didn't go back.
I see open minds here and a lot of positive support. I have plenty of hobbies and interests, but I find most social settings involve drinking and it would be nice to attend parties where that isn't the focus. Perhaps, I should join some sort of spiritual group/church that isn't religious. I have been avoiding taking a title as to what I am with friends and family because I don't want to make any declarations that I don't feel good about. I've said I don't drink any more because it was a problem and let them sort it out. But when I went to the AA meeting, I was told that this is how you introduce yourself. So I didn't go back.
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Every AA meeting starts with a reading that says, amount other things, the only requirement to join is a desire to stop drinking. It's in the Big Book also. If you've been told how to introduce yourself, I'd try a different meeting meeting. Stick to open meetings.
I TOTALLY get that awkwardness around the introductions.
Nice to have this forum to bat around ideas!
I TOTALLY get that awkwardness around the introductions.
Nice to have this forum to bat around ideas!
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Hi Precious,
There is no requirement in AA that you specifically say, "I'm Precious and I'm an alcoholic." You can just say your name. That's it. I hear it all the time. AA is a great a social outlet. I personally know several people who just go to meetings and make good social connections without getting a sponsor or working the steps. I personally need that stuff for my own growth and recovery, but whatever works for them, and for you as well.
It goes back to the cliché: take what you need and leave the rest.
I'm just glad you've found a recovery plan that works for you. Congrats on your 2+ years. That is a significant achievement for anyone, in AA or otherwise.
There is no requirement in AA that you specifically say, "I'm Precious and I'm an alcoholic." You can just say your name. That's it. I hear it all the time. AA is a great a social outlet. I personally know several people who just go to meetings and make good social connections without getting a sponsor or working the steps. I personally need that stuff for my own growth and recovery, but whatever works for them, and for you as well.
It goes back to the cliché: take what you need and leave the rest.
I'm just glad you've found a recovery plan that works for you. Congrats on your 2+ years. That is a significant achievement for anyone, in AA or otherwise.
I don't have an issue with labels as long as I feel they are accurate. For example, I am an ex-smoker. I am an ex-wife, step-mother, etc. Not necessarily labels I think are positive but they describe that part of me without explanation. I thought AA would be a good social outlet, and I could benefit, but I can't get past the introductions. I don't feel this is my ego. I have no problem admitting that I have an alcohol problem that has one solution, total abstinence. I'm working my program. I feel good about the path I've taken, but this AA sort of stopped me, the idea that these declarations need to be made in order to participate. I don't think we are all the same, though we have some things in common and can learn from one another. My bigger issue is when I talk to others, how I word my self description. Maybe I don't. Maybe I just do what I have been doing all along.
I see open minds here and a lot of positive support. I have plenty of hobbies and interests, but I find most social settings involve drinking and it would be nice to attend parties where that isn't the focus. Perhaps, I should join some sort of spiritual group/church that isn't religious. I have been avoiding taking a title as to what I am with friends and family because I don't want to make any declarations that I don't feel good about. I've said I don't drink any more because it was a problem and let them sort it out. But when I went to the AA meeting, I was told that this is how you introduce yourself. So I didn't go back.
I see open minds here and a lot of positive support. I have plenty of hobbies and interests, but I find most social settings involve drinking and it would be nice to attend parties where that isn't the focus. Perhaps, I should join some sort of spiritual group/church that isn't religious. I have been avoiding taking a title as to what I am with friends and family because I don't want to make any declarations that I don't feel good about. I've said I don't drink any more because it was a problem and let them sort it out. But when I went to the AA meeting, I was told that this is how you introduce yourself. So I didn't go back.
I guess that I never really pondered what I'm saying when I introduce myself. Medically speaking I didn't have a physical addiction to alcohol but I was definitely headed in that direction and how fast it began to progress was mind boggling.
I just look at it as I have a problem with alcohol and can't drink and that's how everyone introduces themselves so I follow suit. To me they're just words. The important thing is that I'm where I need to be.
I guess it's a matter of how you look at it and everyone has a right to their own opinion.
I just look at it as I have a problem with alcohol and can't drink and that's how everyone introduces themselves so I follow suit. To me they're just words. The important thing is that I'm where I need to be.
I guess it's a matter of how you look at it and everyone has a right to their own opinion.
Speaking for myself, I really bristle at the stated or implied suggestion that I must label myself as . . . whatever . . . in order to address or resolve my problem. And yeah, I might tell myself 20 times a day that I'm an alcoholic, but feeling pressured to announce it to a room of strangers when we all already know why we're there? No thanks.
Not to mention labels serve little or no purpose that I can discern anyway.
I also don't like the term because I think that using it means that it somehow defines me, and there is so much more to me than my alcoholism (or whatever you want to call our shared problem!).
So say I, for what that's worth! :-)
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