thatslife

if your such a man then man up and kick the drugs

dwtbd

Make new choices and heed number 7, the metaphor of a the beast in AVRT is to isolate thinking of the addict

ScottFromWI

You need to learn that once you choose the first drink, pill, toke, shot, you have no control Thor. That's the nature of addiction. Support means learning and TAKING ACTION to follow a recovery method so you learn to live your life in such a way that you don't want or need to take that first drink. You also learn how to live your life and enjoy it without drugs. That might be AA, NA, AVRT, counseling, detox, or a combination of all the above.

soberhawk

No your are not.

People that flee from reality to drugs or booze are not in control of their lives.

Could be you are paying your bills, sending Christmas cards to family and remember to pick up your kids from pre-school.

That is not to be in control it is about being good at pretending everything is ok.

RobbyRobot

Yeah, I hear you...

And yet, the addiction persists in your life. Certainly you did not choose to be dealing with these kind of consequences? Something went wrong somewhere?

If the buck stops with you, Thor, then make it so in ways that end the addiction. If you can't make that action a reality that sustains itself, then it may be time to re-visit your choices.

Thorsapprentice

Thatslife: When did I say I'm 'Such A Man'?
Soberhawk: you're derision is neither helpful or relevant.

RobbyRobot

Being somewhat angry with those who are being helpful wont help YOU. Of course, its your call on what is helpful. And your call on if your being angry or not.

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Nonsensical

What has you trapped? If it's not the addict living in your head (a.k.a.'beast') what is victimizing you with this entrapment?

ScottFromWI

There are a lot of posts with very helpful and relevant info in this thread on the other hand. It would be of benefit to you to pay heed to them rather than being argumentative.

Thorsapprentice

Angry? No

RobbyRobot

Really?

Then, how would you describe your emotional stance in this thread?

suki44883

Why are you being so hostile, thorsapprentice? We are only trying to help, but you seem to take offense at pretty much anything said. Like Skye said, we really are on your side here.

bartender129

Hey Thor,

I get the whole coming here and arguing with folks thing. I really do. Look at my profile and check out my early posts. I did exactly what you are doing right now.

I am a different guy now, free from the problems you say you have.

One of the things that was important to get me there was to stop looking for what I disagree with when people reply to me. And to start opening up to what they are trying to tell me.

There is help and support here my friend. You just have to open up to it.

I truly hope you find the peace you are looking for.

Be well

Thorsapprentice

Sorry. Meant no disrespect. Not arguing, discussing, debating or anything else. I believe I misinterpreted a post and responded in an inappropriate way. Accusations of aggression on my part are unfounded and ridiculous. Why would I attempt contact with you guys and then be belligerent?

RobbyRobot

None taken.

We get emotional when we are quitting addiction, goes without saying. We also get somewhat defensive, and vulnerable too.

Welcome to SR, Thor. I've read up on your other threads. Looks like your careful with your words. That is helpful on an online forum. You have a lot to offer others as you continue to stay quit and share your experiences. We don't always all agree with each other about everything, but no matter, we all are on the same side.

ImperfectlyMe

Are you bored and just trying to ruffle feathers here? Cause I can think of another place that's productive like FB. Here at SR we like to give/receive support. We welcome each other with open arms and " support" each other along our journeys!

I wish you all the best

bartender129

Good deal Thor.

Thorsapprentice

I truly don't know how I've upset you guys, but I'm sorry. If I've caused you undue duress, please accept my sincere apologies. What's happened has happened. Whatever it is I can't undo it, so again, sorry. For the record I'm neither troll or **** stirrer

littlefish

Hi welcome Thorsapprentice.
You can involve yourself in a lot of questions, the why's, the why nots, choice, no choice. But, you can also make it simple. If you think you have a problem, if you can't stop using, then make your choice. Do you want to quit?

If so, then it's a good idea to roll up your sleeves and get to work. Because recovery is a lot of work. People have mentioned support. Look at some programs, look at support groups, find outpatient or inpatient care. Make a doctor appointment. Look on the internet for NA groups that meet near you. Start reading some recovery literature. Go online and listen to recovery speakers.
All the time you spend using you can spend an equal amount of time or more recovering.
Best of luck to you.

ImperfectlyMe

Hey Thor we are a very forgiving group welcome again. I hope we can be of help, there's lots of people in your thread. Most post take days to accumulate 3 pages! If your ready to go sober why not join the november class.