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Old 10-20-2013, 08:09 AM
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She wants sobriety, that'll do for now. Pressure must be off.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:16 AM
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The only way that I made it out of my depressive thoughts was to quit drinking. Alcohol allowed every part of my being to stay in a depressive mode. It was complete torture. I didn't realize what was really taking place until I had a forceful exit from being an active alcoholic. There is work to be done today.
Yes.

Alcohol is a liar. And an incredibly powerful one. When we're drinking, it is our only solution. Yet is is causing the problem. Alcohol is a depressant. It lies and makes us feel a little relief (until it doesn't anymore), and then compounds the problem.

I went on for years in the state you describe, until I was suicidal and landed in a hospital. It doesn't have to get to that point. There is lots of that can be done. AA isn't a necessity for sobriety, but I couldn't stop without it, and it gave me gifts I never thought imaginiable. I am a completely different person that the person I was when I first stopped drinking, and I've accomplished things I never even dreamed of.

AA gave to me everything that alcohol promised and stole. Plus a whole lot of awesome new friends.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:24 AM
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Sorry I wasn't trying to make her feel pressured!

Just saying what works for me.

You go out all Lucy as long as it's not beer, will be all good!

Nice to see people here from the UK
Sorry, I am behaving like a bossy mother
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:24 AM
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I've ordered a Chinese take away. I am going to do some cleaning before it comes. I am going to enjoy it and then do my homework till I fall asleep. Thank you everyone.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:29 AM
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Welcome Lucy!

Graduate school is a really tough place to not drink, as so much emphasis is put on being "collegial," and the pressure to excel is very hard as well. I didn't quit drinking until after grad school but I wish I had had your self-awareness to try earlier. My only advice would be that as hard as quitting drinking may be, graduate school is even harder if you're depressed (as I was, in large part because of drinking) and then both difficulties just seem to multiply. It's great that you're here, keep coming back and asking as many questions as you need. I bet you could ask your non-drinking friends for help, and maybe check out AA. Even if you decide the program is ultimately not for you, the fellowship helps with feelings of loneliness and isolation -- and remember, you don't have to do this alone. Congratulations on all the big things you are doing right now!
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:54 AM
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Hi Lucy: You say you work in a bar and "have no way of escaping" being around alcohol. Is that your only job opportunity, working in a bar? Is it not possible to arrange your social life so as to avoid, at least at the beginning of your recovery, always being around folks who like to drink? It sounds like you're making it hard for yourself by "white knuckling" it. Just gritting your teeth and then maybe saying, "Well I'll have just one..." and starting down the slippery slope again.
Do you really want to stop drinking? If so, then ask the folks on this website. I'm sure they can give you some good suggestions. They've been there, where you are right now.

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Old 10-20-2013, 09:38 AM
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I do want to stop and I think I can. I have to leave the job soon as I am moving cities. But I will probably have to take another bar/restaurant job as it's the most convenient when studying. My job is one of many situations where there is temptation. I will miss it, but I do need to give up drinking at this time. Over the years I have had a healthy relationship with alcohol, but it is a problem for me right now.
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:24 AM
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I'm finding that I am feeling abit better today, but very depressed. Feel like I need to give myself a good shake. Any tips for pushing this feeling away?
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:41 AM
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I'm finding that I am feeling abit better today, but very depressed. Feel like I need to give myself a good shake. Any tips for pushing this feeling away?
I find it best to often just accept whatever I'm feeling, and keep putting one for in front of the other. Trying to push the feeling away usually just adds to it. It WILL pass.

If you are going to commit to not drinking, and you want to feel differently you'll have to start making some changes though. Just putting down the alcohol can make for a pretty miserable person. Most of us drank to escape that person.

Is AA a consideration for you?
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:32 AM
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Drinking when stressed

I know what you mean. I've drank for too long to help relieve stress and anxiety. I always thought of it as an escape from everything bad. But in the morning I realize I've only added to it. Maybe you can try to do something different in your day to make it feel new. Get a massage, go to a park or movie ; anything to mix up your normal routine. It's good that you don't drink alone or have it in your house. Hang in there. Whenever you need to talk, we're all here to listen w/out judgement. Hang in there. We can make it through the day w/ each other.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:35 AM
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I actually feel like I am losing my mind. I feel very very depressed and I know that alcohol is playing a huge part in it. I am at a very stressful time in my life. I have just started a Masters in another city, I am trying to juggle that with a job in my hometown, I have just had to break up with someone who had bi-polar disorder and I feel that I am using alcohol as a way to escape. I often hate myself after a night out and can only remember the stupid things I have done and am constantly worrying about what people think about me.

I really need some support and advice on how to move forward. I work in a bar and study in a very sociable institute where we are encouraged to socialise. I have no way of escaping being around alcohol and so I need help avoiding drinking it. I really feel that I am on the verge of a breakdown and I'm at risk of ruining everything for myself. Can anyone advise me on the best way to move forward?
Lucy, I know that you are feeling very alone in all of this, and because it all seems so very hard and overwhelming, reaching for healthy options probably feels impossible...Lord knows it feels easier to drink over all of it...the schoolwork, the ex, the job. The problem is that your using a VERY temporary solution to a bunch of difficult problems. That, in addition to the physically and emotionally unhealthy issues drinking brings with it has turned what may be difficult problems into what feels like insurmountable problems. So the easy solution of course is to stop drinking. But it's not so easy, right?

The only way for you to find out if sobriety will really help you is to figure out a plan to try it out. Set a goal for getting through a month without drinking. If you have to avoid socializing with your drinking friends, you can do it for a month can't you? Hang around those non drinking friends you mentioned. A recovery meeting like AA will be an enormous help, if you can get to one (it seems scary, but they can be wonderful). Getting a plan for your month will make it easier. Once you've got some sober time under your belt, things that felt difficult to deal with will seem much different. It's often just a matter of perspective. To walk away from alcohol forever seems overwhelming, but to stop for a few weeks is doable, right? Stick around SR...You'll find lots of support here!
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