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NoelleR 09-29-2013 11:35 PM

Date of Sobriety
 
When I was new to recovery, in AA, and elsewhere, everyone I knew (and know today) used (uses) the first day (at least) of no drinking as their DOS; Date of Sobriety; Sober Date.

Since being online, I have 'met' many folks who use the last day of their drinking as their sober date. I don't know, but for me, and the recovered folks with whom I've spoken, we just couldn't find a way to justify the day of our last drink (even if it was only one drink) as our sober date.

A non-alcoholic can have drink and be sober, but us folks, even with one drink, would not consider ourselves sober (we might not be drunk, but we definitely would not be sober).

Could some folks here explain how one can use the date of his/her last drink as their sober date..............

Thx
NoelleR

mecanix 09-30-2013 12:38 AM

After 2 years sober , day 5 or 6 it's the same to me .... it's an achievement when we go through it ourselves but i'm not the one going through it , if what someone else were doing was causing me resentments over day counts i'd be asking myself what the problem "really" is with me ..

bestwishes, m

Dee74 09-30-2013 01:49 AM

OK cards on the table time.

for years I've celebrated my sober day as April 6th.

For many years tho I was unsure about that day because I'm sure I finished off the dregs of a bottle of beer on waking up that morning...I was pretty messed up with other health issues at the time, but unless I dreamt it, I drank it....and it was beer.

so...my sobriety date fluctuated for a few years....

Eventually I stuck with the April 6th date - not because that gives me an extra day or anything but because, to me, that was the day I left my old life behind and I started my new life...April 7th 2007 means nothing to me.

If people want to consider my date is April 7th I'm fine with that - if they want to consider I'm a liar or a cheat, and/or unworthy to share my experience I'm ok with that too....I sleep pretty well :)

what other people think of me is none of my business - and honestly? the same goes for me with other peoples sobriety dates :)

D

hypochondriac 09-30-2013 02:58 AM

I'm not sure it matters all that much. It is one of the reasons I like the Rational Recovery approach to sobriety dates... why would you count the days of something you don't do anymore? Alot of people struggle thinking things won't be better til they reach x amount of days/years... and then someone comes along and tells them they need to reset their date for whatever reason... it can be really demoralising. People who are honestly trying to stay sober will be honest with themselves. For me, my sobriety date is significant because it is the date I decided to live, by choice, rather than systematically destroying myself. It's like my birthday to me now :) But if others don't use the same approach as me I won't get upset about it.

lorelei 09-30-2013 04:18 AM

my last day of drinking, was the last day I drank so I wasn't sober, so 31st Aug was the last day I drank alcohol, and 1st Sept is my first day of being sober x

wakko 09-30-2013 05:32 AM

One day or the other really makes no diference in a life time of sobriety

Erratic 09-30-2013 06:56 AM

To me is when u feel right, and then the date starts from then, but then if u lasp i dont think u should go back to first day either. I would rather go by how many sober days or whatever than keep on going back. Me again i try and try again.

Mark75 09-30-2013 07:15 AM

What Dee said. Exactly.

Deckard 09-30-2013 08:09 AM

Interesting poll, and I agree with the consensus that it does not matter in the slightest. Whatever works for you...

For me, I use November 4, 2012 because this was the date I made the decision and the irrevocable commitment to sobriety and began the journey. November 5 was the first full day without drinking, but the "break with the past" or (as it turned out) "big plan" happened on the 4th, so that's the day I go with.

Similarly, I celebrate my anniversary on the day I got married, not the first "full day" of being married...

All's well that ends well! :)

Michelangelo 09-30-2013 10:47 AM

It is a mathematic question. January 4 was my last day of drinking. So january 5 was day 1 for me, and january 6 was day 2 (6-4), january 7 was day 3 (7-4)...

stephnc 09-30-2013 10:47 AM

I think the emphasis on sobriety dates is ridiculous. I went to rehab in April of 2012, and I've had one major relapse (January 2013) and then two smaller 'slips' a few months after that. As of now, it's probably been at least five or six months...I don't even remember what month I had my last drink, much less the exact date. The point is that I'm sober TODAY, and I have quite a few '24' hours leading up to today. Why focus on the past?

james872 09-30-2013 11:00 AM

First day of not drinking for me. But if someone else wants to look at it differently, fine by me. Like Dee described for example.

It doesn't really matter to me. In the beginning it is fun to count the days, but later on it's not that important. The important part is the sobriety.

I quit Aug. 15th. My last drink was the night before. So including that day, counting to this day it is my 47th day. But this day isn't over yet, so I haven't been sober for a full 47 days. AND... Oct. 15th I will call it 2 months. But counting the days that will be day 32. And if you consider still being drunk after 12 PM of the day you took your last drink "not being sober", then the day after that counts. And if you drink until 2 AM and then quit and call the day you wake up your sober date, given that you didn't sleep over 22 hours, you are technically incorrect. IF you go by the definition of the day that you first didn't drink that is. On the other hand, if you chose the second option of the poll, you would be correct. And then there leap years...

That whole paragraph was meant to be tongue in cheek. :)

Point is, count if you want to. Count however you want to. Whatever works for you. The important part is the sobriety. And it's handy to have an approximate date if your doc needs to know or something like that.

It's just a personal thing.

Grungehead 09-30-2013 11:42 AM

To me my sobriety date is kind of like my birthday, I don't think about it every day but it is a significant date to me personally. I have also had two open heart surgeries and I remember both of those dates as well. When I was married me and my wife celebrated our wedding anniversary every year. I think most people like to remember and celebrate important times in their life by remembering the date that it occurred, and I look at my sobriety date as one of those times.

BTW I celebrate my sobriety date as April 17th, which was the first day I didn't take a drink from the time I woke up (I don't remember if I drank past midnight the day before???). On April 16th I went to my outpatient treatment assessment appointment (had 3 beers on the 30 minute drive there), and when I got home from the appointment I kept drinking until I went to sleep / passed out. I haven't had a drink since then.

soberhawk 09-30-2013 11:43 AM

I hoping to stay sober long enough that a day plus minus will be of no importance and my last drink is a faint memory of the past.

stephnc 09-30-2013 02:15 PM

I was talking about this with a friend (someone I met in AA) this afternoon, and I remembered that it was definitely April when I last drank. That's a good point about knowing that date for medical purposes, James.

And in the interest of full disclosure, I think a big part of why I don't like the whole 'sobriety date' idea is that when I was in AA, I picked up more than one white chip...and had more than a few 'sobriety dates.' I hated that, it was discouraging and embarrassing to me. Once I quit AA and could deal with my drinking/not drinking/slips without the whole public embarrassment element, I was much more successful at getting and staying sober. When I drank in April, I dealt with it privately - which is just what works best for me.

Dee74 09-30-2013 02:29 PM

I don't believe sobriety dates were ever meant to be a competitive sport, or bandied about like cudgels.

Kinda weird how that happens.

D

Carlotta 09-30-2013 03:16 PM

Mine is my first day sober but I definitely get Dee's perspective about the meaningful date being the turning point.
What is truly cool and important is that we are all sober TODAY :)

Twofish 09-30-2013 03:56 PM

Dee is right, I love the way he explains things! Anyway, what about the opiate people, the very brave ones who desires sobriety, but, the Dr. or therapist/clinic puts them on a maintenance drug, Methadone, Suboxone, etc? Is this considered a sober date? Just wondering, not looking to stir up things. Thanks TF

longbeachone 09-30-2013 04:18 PM

I quit the night the Academy Awards were on. I know I should count from the next day, but I remember that night so clearly. The next few weeks during early sobriety are kind of a blur. That's just me, everyone's different.

ZeldaFan 09-30-2013 04:34 PM

I asked this question a few weeks back and got mixed results as well. For me, I decided to go with my first day without drinking but to each their own!


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