I don't think I can get it
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I think it took me about 6 years, maybe more, to 'get it'.
By get it I mean fully understanding the following equation
And
And for me, nothing good ever comes from drinking.
Such simple statements that you would think would be easy to act on.
I tried it my own way - drinking only beer, drinking only wine, drinking no more than 4 drinks a night, alternating every drink with water.
In the end, I finally got it through my head that there was no solution other than to not drink.
I have to say once I got it, life became a lot easier and a lot more enjoyable.
I wish you the best
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By get it I mean fully understanding the following equation
If I do not pick up that first drink, I cannot get drunk
And
I have regretted drinking many times. I have never regretted not drinking.
And for me, nothing good ever comes from drinking.
Such simple statements that you would think would be easy to act on.
I tried it my own way - drinking only beer, drinking only wine, drinking no more than 4 drinks a night, alternating every drink with water.
In the end, I finally got it through my head that there was no solution other than to not drink.
I have to say once I got it, life became a lot easier and a lot more enjoyable.
I wish you the best
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That's it. I don't think I can get it. I've been down this road a hundred times and each time I feel further away each time I try again. I feel like everyone else has some magic thing that happens to them and they get it. For me, maybe I'm just too stubborn, too headstrong, too...I dunno...too everything. The littlest of things sends me over the edge...maybe not enough will power? Maybe not trying hard enough? People keep telling me at meetings "maybe you aren't done".."maybe you need to lose more"..."maybe you just think you know everything and it's getting in your way". I feel like even here you are all probably sick of my woah is me cry. I'm afraid to even post in a virtual world...I feel utterly hopeless. I don't mean to keep being this way. I just can't seem to keep it together.
OMG I so identify with the above and for me it was for too long. Finally after expecting different results or not getting that bolt of lightening I was WAITING for, "I was sick and tired of being sick and tired" I said God please help me stop drinking. That bolt struck me because I was ready to go to any length and work for it. 30+ years later haven't had a sip since that moment and still not a religious person. BE WELL
Don't set yourself up for failure...recovery is hard enough without the built in traps we put in front of us.
Good luck.
You are right, crazy I did that instead of tossing them! I've had the prescription forever but haven't taken them. I don't know why I thought I needed them just in case. Hmmm...in case I wanted to take them all? Ahh I don't know. That is why I threw them way up high, so I wouldn't take them all if I happened into a blackout. It's happened before and I kinda freak myself out when I drink cause I don't know what will happen. Typing that and reading it back...woah...I am totally insane in my thinking process here!
You can do it Jstar...and everyone else who feels hopeless. I think feeling hopeless at some point is just part of it. Heaven knows I've been there.
For me, hopeless was the stage right before surrender. And I don't mean surrender like in there is nothing more I can do so I might as well stop trying but more like in I give up fighting the one thing I just can't fight anymore. For me it was drinking alcohol.
I had no answers but it just came to the point where I refused to drink it no matter what. If the aftermath was sadness or depression or anxiety or what have you, so be it. I will take that on and do what I can to overcome what comes as it comes. One thing at a time I took it. It wasn't easy. Some days it still not. But the thing for me was I got a glimpse here and there that my life could be better. Even if all I got was a little peace here and there. So letting go of hopeless gave me some hope.
You hang in there Jstar and everyone who feels like this now. You have a ton of people on here who ain't giving up on any of you.
For me, hopeless was the stage right before surrender. And I don't mean surrender like in there is nothing more I can do so I might as well stop trying but more like in I give up fighting the one thing I just can't fight anymore. For me it was drinking alcohol.
I had no answers but it just came to the point where I refused to drink it no matter what. If the aftermath was sadness or depression or anxiety or what have you, so be it. I will take that on and do what I can to overcome what comes as it comes. One thing at a time I took it. It wasn't easy. Some days it still not. But the thing for me was I got a glimpse here and there that my life could be better. Even if all I got was a little peace here and there. So letting go of hopeless gave me some hope.
You hang in there Jstar and everyone who feels like this now. You have a ton of people on here who ain't giving up on any of you.
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Look at it rationally jstar. There's nothing insane about your thinking. Quite the opposite. You're just putting preparation and planning in place to fail. "I'll put them there just in case......"
Again you're not going to "get it" until you stop thinking like this. The pills are just one tiny example. You're assaulted on a daily basis by opportunities to fail. It's all around us. You have to seriously man the barricades so that the answer is "no" every time, whatever the situation.
Again you're not going to "get it" until you stop thinking like this. The pills are just one tiny example. You're assaulted on a daily basis by opportunities to fail. It's all around us. You have to seriously man the barricades so that the answer is "no" every time, whatever the situation.
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For me, maybe I'm just too stubborn, too headstrong, too...I dunno...too everything
It was in embracing my tenacity and confidence, not denying it, that allowed me to change my life.
People keep telling me at meetings "maybe you aren't done".."maybe you need to lose more"..."maybe you just think you know everything and it's getting in your way".
Jstar your quote says it all : surrender and he will meet you. Have you truly surrendered? I'm stubborn and difficult too. We all are - we ARE alcoholics for goodness sake! When you are beat into submission like I was, you'll wave the white flag and it will happen for you. I promise. The only thing I did right my first 5 years was I kept coming back for another shot at sobriety each time I relapsed. And I learned from my relapses. I studied my patterns and looked at my life with a microscope - not afraid to learn that I was indeed a weak minded and selfish person! Not afraid to see what needed to be done.
You don't give up. If it takes a thousand times, you don't give up. Some of us will die along the way. Some of us will have many stops and starts and we will struggle our asses off. I'm in that group. This has been SO challenging for me. Everything had to change, essentially. I shed an entire "self" like a snake molting its skin if you will? And yet I am still a snake! But I'm sober.
Stay with us. Today is a new day. You have it.
You don't give up. If it takes a thousand times, you don't give up. Some of us will die along the way. Some of us will have many stops and starts and we will struggle our asses off. I'm in that group. This has been SO challenging for me. Everything had to change, essentially. I shed an entire "self" like a snake molting its skin if you will? And yet I am still a snake! But I'm sober.
Stay with us. Today is a new day. You have it.
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I know that for me the only way for me to get the message was to lose my job, and almost lose my marriage. Why did I have to go to these lengths? I do not know.
It took what it took. It ripped out everything that I thought I was, and left me broken. I am not repairing what is broken. I am building a entirely new me. The real me. The Mizzuno that I have always wanted to be.
Figure out your true intentions, and the Universe will rise to meet you. (author unknown atm) Ask for these thoughts, confusion, pride, all the things that you think hinder your growth to be removed. Sit with it, but do not act. These thoughts and feelings will not kill you. They have no control unless you give them control, unless you act on them.
There is something to this struggle, and it is not for you to continue on a self destructive path. You are worthy of a loving pure life. You are worthy of sobriety.
It took what it took. It ripped out everything that I thought I was, and left me broken. I am not repairing what is broken. I am building a entirely new me. The real me. The Mizzuno that I have always wanted to be.
Figure out your true intentions, and the Universe will rise to meet you. (author unknown atm) Ask for these thoughts, confusion, pride, all the things that you think hinder your growth to be removed. Sit with it, but do not act. These thoughts and feelings will not kill you. They have no control unless you give them control, unless you act on them.
There is something to this struggle, and it is not for you to continue on a self destructive path. You are worthy of a loving pure life. You are worthy of sobriety.
You are all so wonderful and encouraging, thank you. Again the day after a fall here I am demoralized yet another time. I don't want to keep f'ing up everything. I really want to walk the right path. I guess wanting to and action are 2 separate things. My action today: I called and left a message at my therapy office to get an intake appointment for the outpatient program. I plan on going to a meeting after work. I plan on not drinking today, taking that in an hour by hour mindset right now.
I strongly disagree with statements like these. This kind of thinking creates doubt in your ability. Doubting that you are capable of quitting will only prolong the process. Let me clarify for you...you are indeed capable. Statements like these also imply that it might be necessary to continue drinking/using in order to someday stop. I cannot stress enough that that is simply not true.
I'm in the same boat, and I just keep trying and I fully believe "I will get it" sooner rather than later. Over the last six months, I have far more sober time vs. drinking time, and while it's not where I want to be, I refuse to wallow in self-pity and stop trying for complete sobriety.
So keep at it Jstar
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