13 years "sober" 5 years relapse
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Originally Posted by hamabi 
"Bolded is also AV" "Yes, I recognized that as I typed it."
Good you've picked it up so quickly. Often it requires reading the material first and even practicing for a week or more to do that. You're a natural.
Good you've picked it up so quickly. Often it requires reading the material first and even practicing for a week or more to do that. You're a natural.
One of those "AHA!" moments. Woke up this morning with the same "AHA!".
When I post in past tense it is what I believed at the time. Now I am realizing it was AV. This is going to take practicing but it's cool to actually recognize the AV in many of my posts from last night and today and I trust it will be pointed out to me when I don't recognize it.
I now know I was feeding the beast all these years. Even when I wasn't drinking.
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Originally Posted by Received
First and foremost, I can no longer attend AA meeting because I am a victim of domestic violence and protected by the Attorney General's Confidentiality program in my county/state.
That said, I have relapsed (beer) and although I can go many days without drinking (when I'm visiting others) as soon as I get "home" I am drinking again, to sleep, to forget, to numb the pain.
I don't want to do this anymore.
Thanks for any help and for being here.
That said, I have relapsed (beer) and although I can go many days without drinking (when I'm visiting others) as soon as I get "home" I am drinking again, to sleep, to forget, to numb the pain.
I don't want to do this anymore.
Thanks for any help and for being here.
Look you have already been through hell in an abusive relationship--you are finally free of that and protected. You should have someone in this program that can direct you to PRIVATE counseling for alcohol abuse, you have probably been through a lot, and may just need some anti=anxiety or anti depressant meds.
Just my opinion but you need to talk to a doctor or addiction specialist!
You do not need to go through the other HELL of alcoholism.
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Checking in. I've been reading RR AVRT website (took the crash course) and reading the AVRT posts/threads on SR.
My eyeballs are about to fall out.
Fantastic stuff.
The book is on order.
I will never drink again and I will never change my mind.
My eyeballs are about to fall out.
Fantastic stuff.
The book is on order.
I will never drink again and I will never change my mind.
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Originally Posted by Received
Checking in. I've been reading RR AVRT website (took the crash course) and reading the AVRT posts/threads on SR.
My eyeballs are about to fall out.
Fantastic stuff.
The book is on order.
I will never drink again and I will never change my mind.
My eyeballs are about to fall out.
Fantastic stuff.
The book is on order.
I will never drink again and I will never change my mind.
Congrats!! I've discovered over the years and by studying history that lots and lots of people quit drinking this way - by "taking the pledge"; but they don't often publicize their new found abstinence.
When I first decided, the reason I didn't tell others around me that I quit for good was because I'd already lied to them about quitting several times before. Well, I knew I couldn't lie to myself, so I just kept it to myself for a while and went to the recovery group meetings I had been persuaded by my lawyer and then by the court system to attend. The idea of deciding to never drink again was actually discouraged in those meetings, but I still understood what "never" meant - that I couldn't change my mind.
I've found it very useful that here on Sober Recovery people can talk honestly and personally and get great feedback and know that it won't be gossiped around their home community. Also, the conversations get saved so we can look again and reflect on them. I think these two features are a paradigm shift in addiction recovery services that can be particularly effective in teaching AVRT. While all this may be obvious to many, I think it's worth repeating.
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Originally Posted by GerandTwine
I've discovered over the years and by studying history that lots and lots of people quit drinking this way - by "taking the pledge"; but they don't often publicize their new found abstinence.
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Originally Posted by GerandTwine
I've been observing people's drinking habits for about half a century.
How long have YOU been sober and did you personally use this method to GET and STAY sober?
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I'd like to remind everyone of this forums rules:
Please remember this is a support forum - not the Spanish Inquisition.
Take it to PM guys.
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The Newcomers Forum is a safe and welcoming place for newcomers. Respect is essential. Debates over Recovery Methods are not allowed on the Newcomer's Forum. Posts that violate this rule will be removed without notice. (Support and experience only please.)
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I don't see anywhere in this message that drinking is an option.
Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.
We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.
We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief - were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.
Big Book....Chapter three.
Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.
We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.
We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief - were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.
Big Book....Chapter three.
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Quite apart from the fact it's got nothing to do with the OP....I don't buy the correlation between sober time and credibility, wisdom, veracity or anything else.
We may as well close this Newcomers forum entirely if you really believe thats the case....
I'd like us to get back to the OP now.
Drop me a PM if either of you guys want me to close your accounts.
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We may as well close this Newcomers forum entirely if you really believe thats the case....
I'd like us to get back to the OP now.
Drop me a PM if either of you guys want me to close your accounts.
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Originally Posted by Received
I am not allowed to go to any AA meetings. Since I'm under protection from the Attorney General's Office. Don't get me wrong, please. This is not a Witness Protection Program. It's not as if I've had to change my identity, however, to continue in this program, which is very necessary, I cannot put myself into a situation that would compromise my safety. I am in this program for another 4 years and then it will be decided if I am *safe* enough to be released.
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