tomsteve

please have some proof of your claim.
AA is not allied with any sect ,denomination,politics, organization or institution.
AA focuses on recovering from alcoholism.
beliveing in God doesnt make a anyone/anything religious.

legna

For clarification purposes only:

The United States Supreme Court (along with a dozen states' supreme courts and federal cicuit courts) has ruled, in Griffin v. Coughlin that AA is religious rather than spiritual.

I realize that this website is international and not limited to the United States but thought I'd help out with the US side of things.

IndaMiricale

On the contrary that kind of statement is not only false, but would cloud the newcomers view..

But I know we are happy to have you here. So keep reading and posting.

Fandy

the OP who started this thread should be able to read through the threads and see what sections follow the AA or Secular lead along with various discussions.

How did it go for night #2 Nostalgia? even if you did not stay sober, you're welcome to talk to us anytime....sometimes the weekend can be a big trigger, what did you do on a Friday night?

IndaMiricale

I dont care what the court ruled. The founders and these answers are in the book.. I mean really we can pick and choose which rulings we each think is right or wrong on any topic.. But facts are facts.. As a member and reader of the BB and AA history.. It is not religious..

revognuh

I'm talking from experience. However, you only need to read the Big Book, study AA's origins, Bill Wilson's belladonna-induced spiritual awakening, court rulings, Penn and Teller's BS show ad nauseum…

“beliveing (sic) in God doesnt (sic) make a (sic) anyone/anything religious”

Do you even know the etymology/definition of the word “religious”? Proper AA fits it perfectly. True, if you do the athiest version of the 12 steps you wouldn't fit the bill—but you couldn't do the steps in their entirety either. (Hint: a door knob can't respond to prayer)

I'm not being critical. I just don't get why AAers deny the religious element. Religion is not a dirty word.

Dee74

I'm amazed how often we're ending up at this same place lately.

Please remember:

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legna

In response now to the original poster - no, happily this website is not religious in nature and we are happy to have you. I am also an atheist and while I have attended AA for quite some time (since 1978, sober continuously since 1992), I have had to do a significant amount of mental gymnastics to get around the religious aspect of it. That said, there is much that isvery good and helpful in AA - enough that this alcoholilc was able to find a new way of life through it. There are alternatives today that you might find more helpful, alternatives that weren't available or widely known about when I first arrived. Whatever you choose - I wish you the best.

IndaMiricale

I have never been able to prove it cant... So perphaps it can..

And I could say I prayed for my cell door to open and it did..

Dee74

like I said - amazing.

seeing as the OPs original question has been answered, we'll leave it there.

Thread closed.

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