Attempting moderation = total devastation
I needed to accept what I was, and that my relationship with alcohol was toxic.
I used to love to drink too - but it became increasingly plain to me my desire for drink was killing me..
then I stopped loving drinking...but I couldnt stop.
Don't reach that point DB.
This apathy - I remember it...I believe thats the addicted part of you trying to stop you from doing something.
Addiction is like a parasite...it will suck the life outa you and tell you you're fine while it's doing it.
Fight it.
D
I used to love to drink too - but it became increasingly plain to me my desire for drink was killing me..
then I stopped loving drinking...but I couldnt stop.
Don't reach that point DB.
This apathy - I remember it...I believe thats the addicted part of you trying to stop you from doing something.
Addiction is like a parasite...it will suck the life outa you and tell you you're fine while it's doing it.
Fight it.
D
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How can u have had all this happen and still LOVE wine? How can u still LOVE a drink when it's probably the reason why your life isn't where u want it to be? I HATED wine for these very reasons and this is the only way I believe u can stop successfully. I HATED what it had done to me and I believe its the only reason I could stop. The 'love' u talk about disappeared years ago, I still remember it but have to remind myself it no longer exists if I ever start reminiscing about the warm fuzzy feeling. U gotta get mad at your addiction and start fighting it! Now before u waste your 30's to it.
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I needed to accept what I was, and that my relationship with alcohol was toxic.
I used to love to drink too - but it became increasingly plain to me my desire for drink was killing me..
then I stopped loving drinking...but I couldnt stop.
Don't reach that point DB.
This apathy - I remember it...I believe thats your the addiction part of you trying to stop you from doing something.
Addiction is like a parasite...it will suck the life outa you and tell you you're fine while it's doing it.
Fight it.
D
I used to love to drink too - but it became increasingly plain to me my desire for drink was killing me..
then I stopped loving drinking...but I couldnt stop.
Don't reach that point DB.
This apathy - I remember it...I believe thats your the addiction part of you trying to stop you from doing something.
Addiction is like a parasite...it will suck the life outa you and tell you you're fine while it's doing it.
Fight it.
D
Yes, my addiction is a parasite. It sucks the energy and self confidence out of me and it speaks in a very charismatic voice. "Go ahead, you can have a drink, relax and then get on with the things you need to get done... you'll feel better... there's no reason to deprive yourself from one drink... or two."
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In the nicest possible way I find you contradict yourself a litle bit and I think that maybe you do care what others think and are unsettled by crazy drunk behaviour.
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
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In the nicest possible way I find you contradict yourself a litle bit and I think that maybe you do care what others think and are unsettled by crazy drunk behaviour.
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
Thanks for giving me something to think about...
I do realize that my crazy drunken behavior is unpleasant. As I wrote, it's not something that I really like to think back on. I guess I am blocking out the details of the events from my mind in order to protect myself from feeling even worse than I do about my life. The silver lining of a blackout?
Where the indifference really kicks in is in the part where I should convince myself that I should stop drinking totally. I'm so appalled at the way everything has turned out that I don't really believe that I have the energy needed to fix things to a point where I'd be happy. I don't want to talk about how unfair life is because we all certainly feel that way sometimes... I'm just sad and tired.
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In the nicest possible way I find you contradict yourself a litle bit and I think that maybe you do care what others think and are unsettled by crazy drunk behaviour.
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
You state your not concerned yet the title of your thread desribes your drinking as devastation?
If you were not concerned by other peoples feelings and opinions, why would you use the word devastating?
Maybe I am totally wrong and forgive me if I am?
Hi Desperado. I was also reluctant to give it up. It had once been so much fun and relaxing. To be honest, though - it had been ages since it was still enjoyable and manageable. I'm talking 25 yrs. ago or more. I was stubbornly clinging to something that could never again be part of my life - all because of the memory of those euphoric early drinking days.
I understand how sad, tired, and defeated you must feel. Continuing to drink will never solve anything - and could prove to be very dangerous at some point. We are with you, and want to see you feel better. There is life after alcohol - promise.
I understand how sad, tired, and defeated you must feel. Continuing to drink will never solve anything - and could prove to be very dangerous at some point. We are with you, and want to see you feel better. There is life after alcohol - promise.
Been there...
How can u have had all this happen and still LOVE wine? How can u still LOVE a drink when it's probably the reason why your life isn't where u want it to be? I HATED wine for these very reasons and this is the only way I believe u can stop successfully. I HATED what it had done to me and I believe its the only reason I could stop. The 'love' u talk about disappeared years ago, I still remember it but have to remind myself it no longer exists if I ever start reminiscing about the warm fuzzy feeling. U gotta get mad at your addiction and start fighting it! Now before u waste your 30's to it.
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Hi!
Thanks for giving me something to think about...
I do realize that my crazy drunken behavior is unpleasant. As I wrote, it's not something that I really like to think back on. I guess I am blocking out the details of the events from my mind in order to protect myself from feeling even worse than I do about my life. The silver lining of a blackout?
Where the indifference really kicks in is in the part where I should convince myself that I should stop drinking totally. I'm so appalled at the way everything has turned out that I don't really believe that I have the energy needed to fix things to a point where I'd be happy. I don't want to talk about how unfair life is because we all certainly feel that way sometimes... I'm just sad and tired.
Thanks for giving me something to think about...
I do realize that my crazy drunken behavior is unpleasant. As I wrote, it's not something that I really like to think back on. I guess I am blocking out the details of the events from my mind in order to protect myself from feeling even worse than I do about my life. The silver lining of a blackout?
Where the indifference really kicks in is in the part where I should convince myself that I should stop drinking totally. I'm so appalled at the way everything has turned out that I don't really believe that I have the energy needed to fix things to a point where I'd be happy. I don't want to talk about how unfair life is because we all certainly feel that way sometimes... I'm just sad and tired.
I'm sorry you are tired and sad, I really am. I wish I could look after you.
Have you got to the point where you are sick and tired of being sick and tired?
Can I point out another contradiction in the nicest possible way to make you giggle and smile today?
I never thought the world most 'glamorous city' would have a 'potato field' in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you in Potato Carlo?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sent with love and best wishes.
xxxx
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I'm sorry you are tired and sad, I really am. I wish I could look after you.
Have you got to the point where you are sick and tired of being sick and tired?
Can I point out another contradiction in the nicest possible way to make you giggle and smile today?
I never thought the world most 'glamorous city' would have a 'potato field' in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you in Potato Carlo?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sent with love and best wishes.
xxxx
Have you got to the point where you are sick and tired of being sick and tired?
Can I point out another contradiction in the nicest possible way to make you giggle and smile today?
I never thought the world most 'glamorous city' would have a 'potato field' in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you in Potato Carlo?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sent with love and best wishes.
xxxx
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I was a social drinker throughout my 20s and then started drinking more and more when I hit 30. During those two decades and most of the this decade (I'm 46 now), I did some things I was so ashamed of I don't know how I didn't dig a hole and bury myself in it. Then there were the things I did that I didn't remember doing. A few things came back to me over time but most of them I had to be reminded of by family, friends, yes, even people I hardly knew. I count all of the bad things I did when I was drunk and I decided I wanted to stop doing them. And the only way was to quit altogether. That was less than a week ago. The next decade will be here in less than four years, change now while you can - because time will fly even faster and you won't get it back.
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Hi Desperado. I was also reluctant to give it up. It had once been so much fun and relaxing. To be honest, though - it had been ages since it was still enjoyable and manageable. I'm talking 25 yrs. ago or more. I was stubbornly clinging to something that could never again be part of my life - all because of the memory of those euphoric early drinking days.
I understand how sad, tired, and defeated you must feel. Continuing to drink will never solve anything - and could prove to be very dangerous at some point. We are with you, and want to see you feel better. There is life after alcohol - promise.
I understand how sad, tired, and defeated you must feel. Continuing to drink will never solve anything - and could prove to be very dangerous at some point. We are with you, and want to see you feel better. There is life after alcohol - promise.
If you don't give it up, are you ready for a life of "I don't care what I've done to others or myself" as your motto?
I don't understand how you can't care about these people and the situation you created and are still trying to rationalize why drinking is acceptable to you, black out and all.
Maybe try to stay abstinent for 90 days and see how you feel then?
I don't understand how you can't care about these people and the situation you created and are still trying to rationalize why drinking is acceptable to you, black out and all.
Maybe try to stay abstinent for 90 days and see how you feel then?
I just wanted to say hello & wish you well on your journey. You are only 30 & have time to make these changes in your life today & lead a wonderful happy sober life. You can do this but... you gotta do it ;-)
I wish you well my friend
Cheers ~ NB
I wish you well my friend
Cheers ~ NB
Really all I can say is that I totally relate. Knowing the devastating moments that have occured to me throughout my drinking career youd think Id be crazy to touch the stuff again. But here I sit having another last drink. Maybe I am crazy!
I know the feeling of minimizing those blackout regrets too! Done it many times.
Either way we know it cant be a good thing mentally or physically to blackout, vomit, lose friends in a fashion we did not intend, and decide its still ok to drink.
Been there done that, I wish I new how to solve the riddle too.
I know the feeling of minimizing those blackout regrets too! Done it many times.
Either way we know it cant be a good thing mentally or physically to blackout, vomit, lose friends in a fashion we did not intend, and decide its still ok to drink.
Been there done that, I wish I new how to solve the riddle too.
Yeah, but a warm hug won't send your life into a hellish downward spiral.
I too loved drinking, it made everything 'go away' but of course it all came back ten times worse. I had to want to be sober more than I wanted to drink and then I was able to see how much better it was living sober.
I too loved drinking, it made everything 'go away' but of course it all came back ten times worse. I had to want to be sober more than I wanted to drink and then I was able to see how much better it was living sober.
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