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Originally Posted by rojogonzo 
Is there such a thing? Or is a delusion that we create when we abhor our lack of control? Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.
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Originally Posted by rojogonzo
Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.
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So is the affliction real or imagined? The only reason im here is because some people i know loosely are concerned about a problem that may be real or imagined. Like christmas in the psych ward im not here cause i wamt to be. Alcohol has never given me a problem aside from the hangovers - but that hardly qualifies an illness real or imagined.
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You are obviously angry that you can't drink/use anymore. I felt the same emotions but I came to realize that I'd rather live sober than to die drunk or high.
I just discovered this site this past weekend and it has already helped me a lot. It's nice to have a community of people to share my problems with and they are very supportive even though I'll probably will never meet them.
All Things Will Pass and life is worth living!
I just discovered this site this past weekend and it has already helped me a lot. It's nice to have a community of people to share my problems with and they are very supportive even though I'll probably will never meet them.
All Things Will Pass and life is worth living!
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Thats the fallacy. Its not for ninety days. And it isnt worth living drunk or sober. Not one os us is alive by choice. You dont get punch cards in the great Prologue asking if youd like to live. We, are here by default. Like a vowel after q. Nothing makes life via syntax easier to swallow, straight or wasted.
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Originally Posted by rojogonzo
Like christmas in the psych ward im not here cause i wamt to be.
I don't miss them, nor the state of mind I was in when I was admitted.
All the best.
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when i said id rather live in self denial than with alcohol i thought you were saying people who have "already recovered" are still alcoholics but in denial, so sorry thought you where mocking people who are recovering
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I decided my life was worth living years ago , it lead to giving up drugs, smoking and drinking .
I found sitting outside the cardiac ward and in A&E a few years back pritty eye opening .
I found sitting outside the cardiac ward and in A&E a few years back pritty eye opening .
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Actually if you read out back stories I think a good deal of us are alive by choice Rojo 
I'm sorry you don't want to be here - tho I'm puzzled why you'd be here if you didn't want to be?
whats going on?
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I'm sorry you don't want to be here - tho I'm puzzled why you'd be here if you didn't want to be?
whats going on?
D
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If you have a problem with reality Gonzo I'd consult some philosophy books, or maybe a psychiatrist.
If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.
Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once
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If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.
Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once
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Originally Posted by hypochondriac
If you have a problem with reality Gonzo I'd consult some philosophy books, or maybe a psychiatrist.
If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.
Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once x
If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.
Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once
xI tried both. Made me a cultist, the otber made me a drunk. Thats where your precious philosophy takea you. Right back to the piece.
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