I slipped up...... Don't know how to start!!
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With all this knowledge and information you can maje a decision to try it on your own but have a back-up plan when you see it might not work, you know what I mean two or three weeksa from now you keep drinking over and over saying the same thing, have a back-up plan give yourself some time to try it on your own but draw the line somewhere or ti will be years before you sober -up! This is your life and your life consists of your decisions that you made!
But remember withdrawls from alcohol can have serious complications-seizures, Dt's, and possibly death! So be careful if you chose to do this on your own without professional help, if the withdrawls are to hard on your own you can go to your doctor and explain to him what you want to do and maybe that will be a little safer road with some of your "freedom", but what is freedom anyway are you not chained to alcohol anyway!
I will pray for you and your safety and hopefully you will make it out sober but keep posting and keep reaching out. God Bless!!!
But remember withdrawls from alcohol can have serious complications-seizures, Dt's, and possibly death! So be careful if you chose to do this on your own without professional help, if the withdrawls are to hard on your own you can go to your doctor and explain to him what you want to do and maybe that will be a little safer road with some of your "freedom", but what is freedom anyway are you not chained to alcohol anyway!
I will pray for you and your safety and hopefully you will make it out sober but keep posting and keep reaching out. God Bless!!!
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Originally Posted by Payton 
Hey Peter G, when you say you finally decided not to do it alone, what resources did you use? Thanks again for your blunt posts...they always kick me in the ass even though you're posting to someone else.
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Originally Posted by pauladmits
@Peter G...
...I just feel like two different people right now. Right now, I feel great, I did all the things I needed to do this morning to fight the hangover, got my workout in, ate a good fattening breakfast, took my vitamins, drank my electrolytes, and water... I feel great and in control. Right now I do not crave alcohol, I actually want to fight it and not drink today just to prove that I do have control.
But then I read what I wrote last night, and it's a whole different story. That is me with no control. I don't like that guy right now, he seems weak and pathetic. Makes me want to battle him for control over my own body. This site is invaluable in the sense that I can see the other side. It's kind of weird. So, I'm going to the drawing board, gonna do some reading today and figure out a game plan. I will post it later.
Anyways, thanks again for your comments.
...I just feel like two different people right now. Right now, I feel great, I did all the things I needed to do this morning to fight the hangover, got my workout in, ate a good fattening breakfast, took my vitamins, drank my electrolytes, and water... I feel great and in control. Right now I do not crave alcohol, I actually want to fight it and not drink today just to prove that I do have control.
But then I read what I wrote last night, and it's a whole different story. That is me with no control. I don't like that guy right now, he seems weak and pathetic. Makes me want to battle him for control over my own body. This site is invaluable in the sense that I can see the other side. It's kind of weird. So, I'm going to the drawing board, gonna do some reading today and figure out a game plan. I will post it later.
Anyways, thanks again for your comments.
Here's the thing; if you're an alcoholic there actually is two different people mucking about somewhere inside your skull. There's one guy who has never had a drop of booze, who's only motivation is health and wellness, looking out for #1, and getting the job done. He knows all about creatine, hydrating, the value of Whey protein vs Soy, how many dumbbell fly's will grow his pecks, e.t.c... I bet that guy even cried when he saw 'Pay It Forward'. (Tell me I'm wrong
)Then there's the bloke who started drinking at <insert age here> and from that experience slowly figured out how to make his life revolve around it. He's the guy cracks up all his friends at parties, and is just generally easier to be around. He found out a while back that getting laid was tons easier AND hella fun with a good buzz. He's always around when your drinking buddies show up. Ever present, ready and able to take over the bridge and run the ship when you need him. Nothing at all wrong with that guy. Really.
Problem is, that second guy? That drink for $h!t's and giggles guy? His days are numbered now mate. He's morphing right along with the progression of your alcoholism, de-volving from the 'life of the party' into what will inevitably become some sort of slobbering, useless idiot that everyone in your life is standing around either worried sick about or gossiping over.
Of course you're not completely there yet. None of us were. Until. we. were. But amigo, you've got a ticket on that bus, of that there is little doubt. How fast you arrive at "slobbering, useless idiot" depends on a few things. 1. How long you are willing to try the same things expecting to see a different result, and 2. how much insanity you can personally tolerate before a complete breakdown occurs.
I'm 45. Come to find out my capacity for insanity lasted around 15 years.
Someone else in this thread pointed out something you should really sit back and objectively consider. I mean seriously, consider it, like, Ghandi-style. Close the door, shut off the iPhone, light some scented candles, and meditate over this question: Do you intimately, completely, wholly, fully, and absolutely understand on an instinctive level that drinking is no longer an option for you?
There's good news, and here it is: if you can't answer it, you don't HAVE to. Just consider it. All you HAVE to do is NOT DRINK. And while you're not drinking, absorb the BB of AA, or learn about AVRT. If these things don't float your boat, then seek out and find a qualified addiction specialist and go see the dude, once or twice a week. Look seriously into anything and find something that resonates within you, something that you know you can get behind and work. Post here, start threads like you are, PM some folks. Read. Read. Read.
Also, while you're NOT drinking, make some life changes that will set you off in the right direction, with certain statistical advantages. By "right" direction, I mean the diametric opposite direction of where booze is located. Some examples would be: getting rid of any alcohol still in your house, or perhaps NOT going to that "Drink Til You Drop" party all your friends want you to attend. If the NBA finals makes you wanna drink, how about watching tennis, or frikin lawn bowling? I'd say watch hockey, but the Kings already won. Cripes, watch curling if it takes you out of a drinking setting.
My overall point is that you need to really, deep down, figure out what lengths you're willing to go to in order to be rid of this thing that's finally starting to straight up destroy you. Then you need to travel to those lengths. Most of the kind folks on this forum can and will help, at least that has been my experience here.
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Paul:
I'm new to this site, but have been sober since July 2010 so I can add some insight... Everyone's road is different but I would agree with the advice above that you need to map this out before taking the plunge. That is, develop a plan: Realize that this won't happen overnight and give yourself the space and time to get yourself right. Recruit the resources - doctor, friends, medication as prescribed (if you've already procured it) - before D-day. Then, execute: put that plan into action and treat it like your life depends on it - because ultimately, it does!
You can get sober and from what you've described of your life, you've got so much to do it for! Nobody is perfect and you should not crucify yourself for trying and failing; what's important is taking those steps and taking them with all your soul. We are all in this together and all want to see you succeed. Keep at it!
I'm new to this site, but have been sober since July 2010 so I can add some insight... Everyone's road is different but I would agree with the advice above that you need to map this out before taking the plunge. That is, develop a plan: Realize that this won't happen overnight and give yourself the space and time to get yourself right. Recruit the resources - doctor, friends, medication as prescribed (if you've already procured it) - before D-day. Then, execute: put that plan into action and treat it like your life depends on it - because ultimately, it does!
You can get sober and from what you've described of your life, you've got so much to do it for! Nobody is perfect and you should not crucify yourself for trying and failing; what's important is taking those steps and taking them with all your soul. We are all in this together and all want to see you succeed. Keep at it!
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Originally Posted by Peter G
Bro, I have to tell you that you're touching on some pretty staunch hallmarks of this dis-ease, and describing them spot on. If you're not a writer you should consider it.
Here's the thing; if you're an alcoholic there actually is two different people mucking about somewhere inside your skull. There's one guy who has never had a drop of booze, who's only motivation is health and wellness, looking out for #1, and getting the job done. He knows all about creatine, hydrating, the value of Whey protein vs Soy, how many dumbbell fly's will grow his pecks, e.t.c... I bet that guy even cried when he saw 'Pay It Forward'. (Tell me I'm wrong)
Then there's the bloke who started drinking at <insert age here> and from that experience slowly figured out how to make his life revolve around it. He's the guy cracks up all his friends at parties, and is just generally easier to be around. He found out a while back that getting laid was tons easier AND hella fun with a good buzz. He's always around when your drinking buddies show up. Ever present, ready and able to take over the bridge and run the ship when you need him. Nothing at all wrong with that guy. Really.
Problem is, that second guy? That drink for $h!t's and giggles guy? His days are numbered now mate. He's morphing right along with the progression of your alcoholism, de-volving from the 'life of the party' into what will inevitably become some sort of slobbering, useless idiot that everyone in your life is standing around either worried sick about or gossiping over.
Of course you're not completely there yet. None of us were. Until. we. were. But amigo, you've got a ticket on that bus, of that there is little doubt. How fast you arrive at "slobbering, useless idiot" depends on a few things. 1. How long you are willing to try the same things expecting to see a different result, and 2. how much insanity you can personally tolerate before a complete breakdown occurs.
I'm 45. Come to find out my capacity for insanity lasted around 15 years.
Someone else in this thread pointed out something you should really sit back and objectively consider. I mean seriously, consider it, like, Ghandi-style. Close the door, shut off the iPhone, light some scented candles, and meditate over this question: Do you intimately, completely, wholly, fully, and absolutely understand on an instinctive level that drinking is no longer an option for you?
There's good news, and here it is: if you can't answer it, you don't HAVE to. Just consider it. All you HAVE to do is NOT DRINK. And while you're not drinking, absorb the BB of AA, or learn about AVRT. If these things don't float your boat, then seek out and find a qualified addiction specialist and go see the dude, once or twice a week. Look seriously into anything and find something that resonates within you, something that you know you can get behind and work. Post here, start threads like you are, PM some folks. Read. Read. Read.
Also, while you're NOT drinking, make some life changes that will set you off in the right direction, with certain statistical advantages. By "right" direction, I mean the diametric opposite direction of where booze is located. Some examples would be: getting rid of any alcohol still in your house, or perhaps NOT going to that "Drink Til You Drop" party all your friends want you to attend. If the NBA finals makes you wanna drink, how about watching tennis, or frikin lawn bowling? I'd say watch hockey, but the Kings already won. Cripes, watch curling if it takes you out of a drinking setting.
My overall point is that you need to really, deep down, figure out what lengths you're willing to go to in order to be rid of this thing that's finally starting to straight up destroy you. Then you need to travel to those lengths. Most of the kind folks on this forum can and will help, at least that has been my experience here.
Here's the thing; if you're an alcoholic there actually is two different people mucking about somewhere inside your skull. There's one guy who has never had a drop of booze, who's only motivation is health and wellness, looking out for #1, and getting the job done. He knows all about creatine, hydrating, the value of Whey protein vs Soy, how many dumbbell fly's will grow his pecks, e.t.c... I bet that guy even cried when he saw 'Pay It Forward'. (Tell me I'm wrong
)Then there's the bloke who started drinking at <insert age here> and from that experience slowly figured out how to make his life revolve around it. He's the guy cracks up all his friends at parties, and is just generally easier to be around. He found out a while back that getting laid was tons easier AND hella fun with a good buzz. He's always around when your drinking buddies show up. Ever present, ready and able to take over the bridge and run the ship when you need him. Nothing at all wrong with that guy. Really.
Problem is, that second guy? That drink for $h!t's and giggles guy? His days are numbered now mate. He's morphing right along with the progression of your alcoholism, de-volving from the 'life of the party' into what will inevitably become some sort of slobbering, useless idiot that everyone in your life is standing around either worried sick about or gossiping over.
Of course you're not completely there yet. None of us were. Until. we. were. But amigo, you've got a ticket on that bus, of that there is little doubt. How fast you arrive at "slobbering, useless idiot" depends on a few things. 1. How long you are willing to try the same things expecting to see a different result, and 2. how much insanity you can personally tolerate before a complete breakdown occurs.
I'm 45. Come to find out my capacity for insanity lasted around 15 years.
Someone else in this thread pointed out something you should really sit back and objectively consider. I mean seriously, consider it, like, Ghandi-style. Close the door, shut off the iPhone, light some scented candles, and meditate over this question: Do you intimately, completely, wholly, fully, and absolutely understand on an instinctive level that drinking is no longer an option for you?
There's good news, and here it is: if you can't answer it, you don't HAVE to. Just consider it. All you HAVE to do is NOT DRINK. And while you're not drinking, absorb the BB of AA, or learn about AVRT. If these things don't float your boat, then seek out and find a qualified addiction specialist and go see the dude, once or twice a week. Look seriously into anything and find something that resonates within you, something that you know you can get behind and work. Post here, start threads like you are, PM some folks. Read. Read. Read.
Also, while you're NOT drinking, make some life changes that will set you off in the right direction, with certain statistical advantages. By "right" direction, I mean the diametric opposite direction of where booze is located. Some examples would be: getting rid of any alcohol still in your house, or perhaps NOT going to that "Drink Til You Drop" party all your friends want you to attend. If the NBA finals makes you wanna drink, how about watching tennis, or frikin lawn bowling? I'd say watch hockey, but the Kings already won. Cripes, watch curling if it takes you out of a drinking setting.
My overall point is that you need to really, deep down, figure out what lengths you're willing to go to in order to be rid of this thing that's finally starting to straight up destroy you. Then you need to travel to those lengths. Most of the kind folks on this forum can and will help, at least that has been my experience here.
I honestly just want to try myself and fight it just for my own sanity just like everyone else. If I fail, which there is a high likelihood I will based on the comments I am reading... then I at least have tried and I can move on to the next thing. Whenever I hang out with my girlfriend, we go out and I have a glass of wine or two, or two beers, then we go to sleep. I don't really feel any effects the next day or that night. So I feel I can survive with out going to detox. I know everyone feels that way until it's too late, but I have no clue what else to say.
I'm pretty active in terms of athletics. Play a lot of hockey and basketball and go to the gym. I don't drink NEARLY as much as I used to, in terms of quantity and binge drinking. I just drink every day to get a buzz going and for the past year have told myself that I'll stop next week. Next week always turned in to next week. Now I finally have reached "that" week, where I actually have created a plan to stop. This is my first plan to actually stop the daily drinking I have made in the past year.
So I guess I will play with fire and live with the consequences. Thanks a lot for your comments though. I know you understand exactly what I'm getting myself in to, lol.
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