AA Elevator Pitch.....Inspired by Sapling
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Originally Posted by MentalLoop 
I have seen a lot of posts recently about the virtues of AA as a bonafide program of recovery amongst others. I also know that a lot of people have somewhat of a stand-offish attitude towards it. As a marketing man, i was wondering what the elevator pitch could be that immediately captures folks heart and mind in a manner that builds trust to consider trying. (Sapling - this hit me in one of your responses where you started with "what if I told you...")
Here is my best stab at it (others, please try your own):
What if you could recover from alcoholism in a way that addresses the demons of fear, resentment, self pity and worth; all the things that lead you to the next drink, would you listen? Would you listen to the experience of millions of people over 70 years who stand nothing to gain from your sobriety but your sobriety? The fellowship of AA is comprised of people who have walked in your shoes, carried your burdens and experienced your pains; and want to share their recovery with you.
Let's see what others come up with.
Here is my best stab at it (others, please try your own):
What if you could recover from alcoholism in a way that addresses the demons of fear, resentment, self pity and worth; all the things that lead you to the next drink, would you listen? Would you listen to the experience of millions of people over 70 years who stand nothing to gain from your sobriety but your sobriety? The fellowship of AA is comprised of people who have walked in your shoes, carried your burdens and experienced your pains; and want to share their recovery with you.
Let's see what others come up with.
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This is putting me off AA... and I'm about to go and make tea as doing service somewhere.
We may all have a drink problem, but there are different approaches, this is the newcomers board... I totally agree everyone needs go and work a program, and I'd always advise anyone to try AA. It is helping me. But it's one thing that is helping me, other things are as well.
And it doesn't work for everyone. And that's not just because you're doing it wrong.. we are different people, with one common thread (a drinking issue).
Do newcomers enjoy these threads? I'm new, and I don't. If others do.. fine.
We may all have a drink problem, but there are different approaches, this is the newcomers board... I totally agree everyone needs go and work a program, and I'd always advise anyone to try AA. It is helping me. But it's one thing that is helping me, other things are as well.
And it doesn't work for everyone. And that's not just because you're doing it wrong.. we are different people, with one common thread (a drinking issue).
Do newcomers enjoy these threads? I'm new, and I don't. If others do.. fine.
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I don't really see any threat to people from this thread...It's not knocking any other program...It's people talking about AA that use it...If AA is not for you...Don't read it...I'm not sure locking every thread that people mention what is working for them is the answer. What I think we need...Is more threads started for alternative recovery programs and how they have worked for people that use them.
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Originally Posted by Sapling
I don't really see any threat to people from this thread...It's not knocking any other program...It's people talking about AA that use it...If AA is not for you...Don't read it...I'm not sure locking every thread that people mention what is working for them is the answer. What I think we need...Is more threads started for alternative recovery programs and how they have worked for people that use them.
A pity you can't see the obvious risk and outcomes from such a thread, Sapling. I can accept you, and some others, just don't see it.
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Originally Posted by Sapling
Maybe I don't...If it was a thread on how AVRT or SMART or anything else had worked for me...I just wouldn't respond in it.
I think not.
There are better conversatations then this thread will offer.
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The point simply was how can we communicate the message of AA in a light that might help peoplenconsider trying it.
there is very good suggestions in the Big Book on how to do this, all gained through practical experiece.
there is very good suggestions in the Big Book on how to do this, all gained through practical experiece.
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Originally Posted by tomsteve
The point simply was how can we communicate the message of AA in a light that might help peoplenconsider trying it.
there is very good suggestions in the Big Book on how to do this, all gained through practical experiece.
there is very good suggestions in the Big Book on how to do this, all gained through practical experiece.
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Originally Posted by RobbyRobot
Sure, okay, i understand, but do we really want a growing number of threads on the site that people just don't want to respond to, because it invites a debate?
I think not.
There are better conversatations then this thread will offer.
I think not.
There are better conversatations then this thread will offer.
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Originally Posted by Sapling
What if one person read this thread and went to a meeting today because of it?....Would that be enough? I just don't see any harm done here...
Too many distracting posts in this forum, and all of a sudden its kind spilt up and disjoined, you know?
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Originally Posted by bluoval
I hope sharing firsthand personal benefits from using a certain approach (whatever approach that might be) would be encouraged in threads titled as such.
No need to make a big deal of one particular way, so as to attract newcomers, really is there?
Just sharing ourselves is enough, you know?
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The chance for inviting debate on a thread posted in the general discussion forum sharing personal benefit from using a certain approach should not imply that's the only approach, of course. But the mere chance an "approach specific" thread might benefit at least one person who read such a titled thread in the general discussion forum should be considered worthwhile. My .02 cents.
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Hey MentalLoop, stay! For whatever reason my HP has me on this site as much as it winds up on my inventories, and you certainly would be helping to carry sunshine and the message to me if you stick around. As it has been referenced, I certainly hope this won't be another thread closed down that treats us like children; it seems to happen too often and if it continues I fear it will inspire further brain drain. Censorship on legitimate concepts is not the answer. I thought your first post was great. The BB is full of sales pitches from some business savvy alkies that knew that how we say things can be as important as what we say. You're a gift, and you're carrying a priceless solution that I know works. If someone has a problem with it, I hope their method of staying sober has a way of dealing with resentments. If not, I know one that does. By the way, I traveled a fair distance to attend a great group in Queens. Loved it! Much love and encouragement to you.
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Originally Posted by Sapling
I just don't see any harm done here...
I'm sure that would be unintended though.
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Originally Posted by RobbyRobot
The harm is that this forum is for newcomers, and there exists a forum for AA 12 step, so if a newcomer is interested in AA, guess what, they can look into that forum, okay?
Too many distracting posts in this forum, and all of a sudden its kind spilt up and disjoined, you know?
Too many distracting posts in this forum, and all of a sudden its kind spilt up and disjoined, you know?
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