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Old 12-09-2011, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Anna View Post
Yes, Harm Reduction is addiction, but at a community level, it's job is to protect the addicts from further harm and to protect the community, as well.
I do agree with certain aspects at the community level, such as needle exchanges, since a disease epidemic would not be good for anyone. If you spend some time in the harm reduction groups, however, it becomes clear that many in the harm reduction movement are not altruistic community organizers at all, but rather active drug users.
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:59 AM
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Harm reduction and MM may be a way to reduce spread of infectious diseases, crime, and other assorted havoc on a community as a whole (and even that's iffy at best)....but neither are a way of treating addiction.

Sounds like a beast orgy to me....
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminally Unique View Post
If you spend some time in the harm reduction groups, however, it becomes clear that many in the harm reduction movement are not altruistic community organizers at all, but rather active drug users.
Yes, some of the people in the Harm Reduction program are active drug users. This has a positive aspect in the program.

1) This person alerts the community when there are tainted/poisoned? drugs in the area.

2) This person passes on information about 'johns' who beat up prostitutes in the community, so that the working girls in the area are aware and the police are on the lookout as well.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:35 AM
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There is no harm in weight reduction. If that is the only problem you have with alcohol, then the best weight reduction would be to abstain completely. Only an alcoholic needs it or craves it. Normal drinkers never think about it or post here. It is not on their radar screen.

Overweight: Harmful. Harm reduction = lose weight
Lose weight = adjust diet and activity levels.

Boy am I glad I read your thread. You are fine just on the wrong website! Type this search term exactly into Google: "losing weight" without the quotation marks. That will get you to the right websites!
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:46 AM
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I managed to lose weight while drinking by counting calories. Most of my calories came from alcohol, granted, and I felt awful. But if that is your only reason to limit your drinking, it can be done.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:47 AM
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I read this somewhere and I believe it....

...it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death. We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics....

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Old 12-09-2011, 11:21 AM
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I guess I am feeling like a descision today to NEVER have a beer again, something I truly love to have, is too much for me.
Have you tried taking things one day at a time? Personally, I don't believe its necessary to make a decision to never drink again... that's really overwhelming and was a recipe for disaster for me. Maybe you could try not drinking just this particular Friday and see how it goes. If you like it, try it again tomorrow, and so on.
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