I look forward to drinking after work
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Ever been diagnosed as multiple personality disorder? Kinda kidding. Either stop and be encouraged or keep drinking to find out what "bad consequences" mean....
Stop debating, that committe wins too often. It's up to you.
Stop debating, that committe wins too often. It's up to you.
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To be honest I am not ready for that as of yet. I still think that I can stop or limit my intake on my own. Maybe stupid to think like this, but during Lent I did not drink during the week and allowed 2 drinks on the weekends. I did it, but then I started to drink daily after that.
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Originally Posted by walkingwithgod 
To be honest I am not ready for that as of yet. I still think that I can stop or limit my intake on my own. Maybe stupid to think like this, but during Lent I did not drink during the week and allowed 2 drinks on the weekends. I did it, but then I started to drink daily after that.
I wish you luck. There is a better way of living sober than a daily debate between stopping for coffee or beer, though. I hope you find it.
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People like to talk about very dramatic bottoms like losing house, car, family and job. Last week in one meeting we read the grapevine and someone wrote about a police chase though farm fields in a stolen car and subsequent days in county jail.
People mention losing family, house, friends, job, etc in very dramatic ways often involving police and courts.
I never experienced any of that. But I think I lost just as much or more, but in a much less dramatic way. I listen to the stories of exciting (and, yes, I think some people enjoy talking about their exciting and dramatic bottoms.....) and, no, I don't relate to it.
I had the slow and steady kind of loss that I compare to a slow growing cancer that ate away at the integrity of my life until I was a bag lady in my own mind. Alcoholism took away my ambition and turned me into a low achiever: it took me 10 years to finish college. I literally spent YEARS of my life at the college bar and at various hash and MJ haunts smoking dope and drinking my brains out.
Isn't that a loss?
Is missing years of final exams a bottom? Is failure to turn in term papers a bottom? Are several incompletes on your college transcript a bottom? Being passed over for promotions, after years with the same company: isn't that a bottom? Maybe years of missed Mondays eliminated the chances for promotion?
No, chronic unemployment and chronic under-achievement is not an exciting kind of bottom that people can talk about in the rooms. My bottom took 30 years and it was boring as hell. But it slowly took away from me everything that I prized in my youth until I couldn't even hold a novel in my hand at bedtime due to drunkenness, so I gave up yet one more thing I loved: reading.
I think we should stop talking about reaching bottoms in terms of loss of money and social status, and dramatic and exciting events...like emergency rooms and families being shredded to pieces once more time ....but the slow kind of disintegration that takes us out silently and without much fanfare. But, it still takes us out.
People mention losing family, house, friends, job, etc in very dramatic ways often involving police and courts.
I never experienced any of that. But I think I lost just as much or more, but in a much less dramatic way. I listen to the stories of exciting (and, yes, I think some people enjoy talking about their exciting and dramatic bottoms.....) and, no, I don't relate to it.
I had the slow and steady kind of loss that I compare to a slow growing cancer that ate away at the integrity of my life until I was a bag lady in my own mind. Alcoholism took away my ambition and turned me into a low achiever: it took me 10 years to finish college. I literally spent YEARS of my life at the college bar and at various hash and MJ haunts smoking dope and drinking my brains out.
Isn't that a loss?
Is missing years of final exams a bottom? Is failure to turn in term papers a bottom? Are several incompletes on your college transcript a bottom? Being passed over for promotions, after years with the same company: isn't that a bottom? Maybe years of missed Mondays eliminated the chances for promotion?
No, chronic unemployment and chronic under-achievement is not an exciting kind of bottom that people can talk about in the rooms. My bottom took 30 years and it was boring as hell. But it slowly took away from me everything that I prized in my youth until I couldn't even hold a novel in my hand at bedtime due to drunkenness, so I gave up yet one more thing I loved: reading.
I think we should stop talking about reaching bottoms in terms of loss of money and social status, and dramatic and exciting events...like emergency rooms and families being shredded to pieces once more time ....but the slow kind of disintegration that takes us out silently and without much fanfare. But, it still takes us out.
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I tried all kinds of things for 20 years, WWG - not drinking for a while, drinking on weekends, drinking only past a certain hour, alternating with water, drinking only beer, drinking only wine, drinking only hard liquor, drinking only with friends, drinking only after food...I could fill the page.
Nothing worked. I always ended up back in the same place.
Don't waste 20 yrs on it, ok?
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Nothing worked. I always ended up back in the same place.
Don't waste 20 yrs on it, ok?
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