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No, I have no excuses. It was some form of mental aberration.
I could almost 'see myself' doing it but I had no power to stop myself. Almost like what I'd imagine an out of body experience to be like. I was sort of numb.
Then I found myself drinking and enjoying it, apparently without guilt.
You all know what I am feeling today. My resistance is very low now.
No, I have no excuses. It was some form of mental aberration.
I could almost 'see myself' doing it but I had no power to stop myself. Almost like what I'd imagine an out of body experience to be like. I was sort of numb.
Then I found myself drinking and enjoying it, apparently without guilt.
You all know what I am feeling today. My resistance is very low now.
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Thanks.
No, I have no excuses. It was some form of mental aberration.
I could almost 'see myself' doing it but I had no power to stop myself. Almost like what I'd imagine an out of body experience to be like. I was sort of numb.
Then I found myself drinking and enjoying it, apparently without guilt.
You all know what I am feeling today. My resistance is very low now.
No, I have no excuses. It was some form of mental aberration.
I could almost 'see myself' doing it but I had no power to stop myself. Almost like what I'd imagine an out of body experience to be like. I was sort of numb.
Then I found myself drinking and enjoying it, apparently without guilt.
You all know what I am feeling today. My resistance is very low now.
So sorry you fell off your wagon, and don't beat yourself up about it. I'm sure you're experiencing enough guilt just from the hangover and physiological aspect alone. Good for you for posting about it!
Sounds like you were "running on instinct" and the thinking portion of your brain was being controlled by your limbic system and brain stem.
Once a person knows that's the reason though, its sort of like pulling the curtain aside and revealing the true Wizard of Oz. Once a person realizes where, how and why urges happen, the urges lose their mysterious urgency and become easier to control. At least, that's the way it was for me...
Once a person knows that's the reason though, its sort of like pulling the curtain aside and revealing the true Wizard of Oz. Once a person realizes where, how and why urges happen, the urges lose their mysterious urgency and become easier to control. At least, that's the way it was for me...
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Just reporting in to say that I did, in fact, get back on my wagon.
Phew, it was pretty scary there for a while... Just a hiccough I guess.
I am curious though. Has anyone else had this sort of 'incident'?
Sober and happy for months, then for no apparent reason, start to drink without (as far as I can see) any trigger whatsoever.
Phew, it was pretty scary there for a while... Just a hiccough I guess.
I am curious though. Has anyone else had this sort of 'incident'?
Sober and happy for months, then for no apparent reason, start to drink without (as far as I can see) any trigger whatsoever.
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Peculiar mental twist and mental blank spot is what the situation you are describing is called in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. At certain times the alcoholic has no effective mental defense against the first drink. We lose power, choice and control over our drinking. We swear off and end up going back to it (i.e., picking up that first drink) because we have lost the power of choice. Powerlessness is not just after we take a drink, it is before as well. If you are interested, there is a solution and there is one who has all power. Susan
You describe one aspect I really started to hate about drinking. I would just absent-mindedly find myself at the liquor store again, a place that I had grown to dislike intensely. Don't miss that place a bit. Thanks for the reminder. Also, congrats on making it over four months, excellent work!
Powerlessness is also not knowing the physiological explanation for what happened, so it appears as a mystery and may appear again in the future if you are unprepared.
I synthesized all the scientific articles I read into one simple concept; my brain stem and limbic system had grown many extra dopamine receptors to revel in all the alcohol I was pouring into my body. Take the alcohol away, and those now unused receptors are going to try every trick in their evolutionary bag of tricks to get me to drink alcohol again. Its a matter of survival for them.
All I have to do is recognize when they start an urge or try to put me on auto-pilot, if I can ride it out without drinking booze the next urge will be less intense and the urges will be spread further apart. In time most of the extra receptors will dry up and disappear, but they will always, forever, be ready to start again because my brain is hardwired to love alcohol more than my wellbeing or even my survival.
I learned to recognize the signs and altered my behaviour in positive ways to override those feelings, which did lessen over time.
I synthesized all the scientific articles I read into one simple concept; my brain stem and limbic system had grown many extra dopamine receptors to revel in all the alcohol I was pouring into my body. Take the alcohol away, and those now unused receptors are going to try every trick in their evolutionary bag of tricks to get me to drink alcohol again. Its a matter of survival for them.
All I have to do is recognize when they start an urge or try to put me on auto-pilot, if I can ride it out without drinking booze the next urge will be less intense and the urges will be spread further apart. In time most of the extra receptors will dry up and disappear, but they will always, forever, be ready to start again because my brain is hardwired to love alcohol more than my wellbeing or even my survival.
I learned to recognize the signs and altered my behaviour in positive ways to override those feelings, which did lessen over time.
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Powerlessness is also not knowing the physiological explanation for what happened, so it appears as a mystery and may appear again in the future if you are unprepared.
I synthesized all the scientific articles I read into one simple concept; my brain stem and limbic system had grown many extra dopamine receptors to revel in all the alcohol I was pouring into my body. Take the alcohol away, and those now unused receptors are going to try every trick in their evolutionary bag of tricks to get me to drink alcohol again. Its a matter of survival for them.
All I have to do is recognize when they start an urge or try to put me on auto-pilot, if I can ride it out without drinking booze the next urge will be less intense and the urges will be spread further apart. In time most of the extra receptors will dry up and disappear, but they will always, forever, be ready to start again because my brain is hardwired to love alcohol more than my wellbeing or even my survival.
I learned to recognize the signs and altered my behaviour in positive ways to override those feelings, which did lessen over time.
I synthesized all the scientific articles I read into one simple concept; my brain stem and limbic system had grown many extra dopamine receptors to revel in all the alcohol I was pouring into my body. Take the alcohol away, and those now unused receptors are going to try every trick in their evolutionary bag of tricks to get me to drink alcohol again. Its a matter of survival for them.
All I have to do is recognize when they start an urge or try to put me on auto-pilot, if I can ride it out without drinking booze the next urge will be less intense and the urges will be spread further apart. In time most of the extra receptors will dry up and disappear, but they will always, forever, be ready to start again because my brain is hardwired to love alcohol more than my wellbeing or even my survival.
I learned to recognize the signs and altered my behaviour in positive ways to override those feelings, which did lessen over time.
Just reporting in to say that I did, in fact, get back on my wagon.
Phew, it was pretty scary there for a while... Just a hiccough I guess.
I am curious though. Has anyone else had this sort of 'incident'?
Sober and happy for months, then for no apparent reason, start to drink without (as far as I can see) any trigger whatsoever.
Phew, it was pretty scary there for a while... Just a hiccough I guess.
I am curious though. Has anyone else had this sort of 'incident'?
Sober and happy for months, then for no apparent reason, start to drink without (as far as I can see) any trigger whatsoever.
So yeah you're not the first one to have that happen. Don't be like me and be a stuborn and slow learner. Pick your self up and get right back on.
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Hey thanks guys - amazing support.
It's good to get different takes on any situation.
I'm beginning to wonder if I did know what I was doing - but that maybe I blanked it out mentally.
Kind of like a mental pressure cooker venting off steam....?
I don't know, but if it's only the one night - I guess I can live with it.
It's good to get different takes on any situation.
I'm beginning to wonder if I did know what I was doing - but that maybe I blanked it out mentally.
Kind of like a mental pressure cooker venting off steam....?
I don't know, but if it's only the one night - I guess I can live with it.
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