You don’t pick up where you left off....
I loved your post by the way .
Fat gut,
Looking ten to fifteen years older than I am
Upper right quadrant pain
Confusion
Guilt
Anxiety
Tiredness tiredness tiredness
One thing I learned is that the body has about 100 points of energy that is present every day to cope with life, enjoy life etc
After a heavy drinking binge,,,my body used about 80 of those points to revive and reach homeostasis.
I had 20 left to deal with life, stress, joy, relationships, children, traffic, bills, cold weather , hot weather.
Bugger that ..
Im not missing anything now..
Ive got my 100 points a day back every morning.
L
Not really sure for similar reasons to Dee...however, I do know that it is when I De used I should probably quit and started trying that alcohol sunk its teeth into me with a vengeance.
Prior to this I was a heavy drinker...once I started quitting I became a problem drinker....drinking until I vomited, blacking out, falling down, walking into walls, drinking in the morning.
Its as though the thought of quitting had turned a slow growing tumor into a voracious monster almost overnight.
I know if for some insane reason I picked up a drink today id probably be dead inside a year.
Prior to this I was a heavy drinker...once I started quitting I became a problem drinker....drinking until I vomited, blacking out, falling down, walking into walls, drinking in the morning.
Its as though the thought of quitting had turned a slow growing tumor into a voracious monster almost overnight.
I know if for some insane reason I picked up a drink today id probably be dead inside a year.
Me too..
Dead in at least one year... At the end of my drinking or should I say ....the beginning of my new life,,, I did realise that I had no idea who I was once alcohol sunk its claws into me.
Google ,,images .....gout..... there is a picture of a foot with a large clawed monster clinging to it..
That was the image that i saw when I realised what the booze was.
Oh,,,and my doctor calls it "a dirty drug"
quite interesting , I saw alcohol as clear , colourless and pure....what a croc
L
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 184
????????
I relapsed after 11 years clean and sober.
I was drinking mouthwash and hiding bottles within a couple weeks. When I was discovered, I started driving around urban areas looking for drugs. All of these were new behaviors, new advancements in my disease.
Why is this? Because abstinence does not treat alcoholism-- it merely arrests the outward facing symptom and the nastier consequences. But the internal chaos and spiritual malady remain and evolve. So when the boil on the skin (drinking) emerges again, it's fueled by a stronger underlying condition.
I was drinking mouthwash and hiding bottles within a couple weeks. When I was discovered, I started driving around urban areas looking for drugs. All of these were new behaviors, new advancements in my disease.
Why is this? Because abstinence does not treat alcoholism-- it merely arrests the outward facing symptom and the nastier consequences. But the internal chaos and spiritual malady remain and evolve. So when the boil on the skin (drinking) emerges again, it's fueled by a stronger underlying condition.
That's been well over a year ago. This time around? Not so easy. In fact, the last five days have been very difficult, indeed.
My concern regarding your post is that if, after eleven years, your disease progressed to the point that you were drinking mouthwash.... why? How do you treat alcoholism? Why didn't you? Did you know that you weren't? Eleven years is an awful long time to be on a "dry drunk."
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 184
Exactly what happened to me. I don't know what happened, but I realized with absolutely clarity that nothing was going to change, that I was unable to do anything different. I couldn't trot out the same old promises-- they just weren't there anymore. I was empty. It was as if I was given a moment of total sanity in the midst of years of insanity-- like I detached and watched what I was doing. And then I realized-- I can't stop. There is no amount of willpower in this body and mind that is going to keep me sober. I will keep returning to it until I die.
It was my first step.
It was my first step.
I was at the point that I wouldn't even finish a pot of coffee before pouring a Vodka and OJ <Hey, it's morning.> That sucked.
I don't ever want to go back. I hope I can find the strength like so many of you have.
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 184
Why does your doctor call it a dirty drug? I find that interesting. I mean, I KNOW it's a nasty, dirty drug... but why did he say that, I wonder?
Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: kansas
Posts: 61
Medicine for what ails you
The strength is found in and through admitting powerlessness and weakness, that is the first step.
One cannot use their strength directly against the disease, one can only use their strength to make themselves swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes.
Not all of the medicine (spiritual treatment) that you have to take to get better, tastes good.
Now come on, open up, it will only taste yukky for a little while, and mommy and daddy dont want you to be sick anymore, please, pretty please.
Or the Mary Poppins routine: "A spoonfull of sugar makes the medicine go down, medicine go down,..."
One cannot use their strength directly against the disease, one can only use their strength to make themselves swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes.
Not all of the medicine (spiritual treatment) that you have to take to get better, tastes good.
Now come on, open up, it will only taste yukky for a little while, and mommy and daddy dont want you to be sick anymore, please, pretty please.
Or the Mary Poppins routine: "A spoonfull of sugar makes the medicine go down, medicine go down,..."
I'm here now. Or there. Where you were. The moment of clarity. The moment of clarity actually happened while I was drunk... but it was still very clear. I cried and cried and cried and wanted to drive my car into a tree. I wanted to drive away into Neverland. I parked in parks and cried and drove and found no satisfaction whatsoever. One cannot run away from themselves, no matter how hard they try. The past is what it is. Alcohol has done NOTHING but keep me firmly imbedded in that past with absolutely no hope of moving forward.
I was at the point that I wouldn't even finish a pot of coffee before pouring a Vodka and OJ <Hey, it's morning.> That sucked.
I don't ever want to go back. I hope I can find the strength like so many of you have.
I was at the point that I wouldn't even finish a pot of coffee before pouring a Vodka and OJ <Hey, it's morning.> That sucked.
I don't ever want to go back. I hope I can find the strength like so many of you have.
is that once your body becomes "alcoholic"...the disease grows whether you drink, or not.
Each relapse was worse than before...I developed cirrhosis after a few months one of the times, but by God's grace am healthy now. I stopped in time. I am an AA'er...don't think I could last almost 5 years without them. And, my faith...for me, God is my only defense against the first drink. That's the one that gets you, not the last. All blessings and prayers for your success!
Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 581
I think I can understand this post because the last time I went abstinent, it was sort of a game... "How long can I go?" Turns out it was eleven days... but it was easy.
That's been well over a year ago. This time around? Not so easy. In fact, the last five days have been very difficult, indeed.
My concern regarding your post is that if, after eleven years, your disease progressed to the point that you were drinking mouthwash.... why? How do you treat alcoholism? Why didn't you? Did you know that you weren't? Eleven years is an awful long time to be on a "dry drunk."
That's been well over a year ago. This time around? Not so easy. In fact, the last five days have been very difficult, indeed.
My concern regarding your post is that if, after eleven years, your disease progressed to the point that you were drinking mouthwash.... why? How do you treat alcoholism? Why didn't you? Did you know that you weren't? Eleven years is an awful long time to be on a "dry drunk."
You see, AA believes that drinking is just a symptom of a much greater problem-- a spiritual malady that torments us. This is why we're often times raging ogres when we're sober--- alcohol treats, or soothes, that spiritual malady (which is why we become hooked on it).
As for my 11 years, you ask a great question. I do not fit the bill as the dry drunk who took prisoners and white knuckled it for 11 years. I was generally OK, and even enjoyed what I thought was peace. I had my career take off, I met my wife, got married, started a family. And I dabbled in AA, but I was not exposed to the real program of AA, so the only thing I felt I had to get right was not drinking.
But in looking back, and comparing it to where I am now, I realize that I had never conceded powerlessness. I thought that as long as I stayed away from a drink I would be fine. I was not recovering, I was abstaining. And while the story would be far much more interesting if I was a raving lunatic and dry drunk, I think that there's no hard and fast rule for how this disease works. What does matter is that a) I picked up again and b) I was worse than ever.
Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 581
The strength is found in and through admitting powerlessness and weakness, that is the first step.
One cannot use their strength directly against the disease, one can only use their strength to make themselves swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes.
Not all of the medicine (spiritual treatment) that you have to take to get better, tastes good.
Now come on, open up, it will only taste yukky for a little while, and mommy and daddy dont want you to be sick anymore, please, pretty please.
Or the Mary Poppins routine: "A spoonfull of sugar makes the medicine go down, medicine go down,..."
One cannot use their strength directly against the disease, one can only use their strength to make themselves swallow the medicine, no matter how bad it tastes.
Not all of the medicine (spiritual treatment) that you have to take to get better, tastes good.
Now come on, open up, it will only taste yukky for a little while, and mommy and daddy dont want you to be sick anymore, please, pretty please.
Or the Mary Poppins routine: "A spoonfull of sugar makes the medicine go down, medicine go down,..."
Think of the 1st step this way: it's not that I just can't drink. It's that I can't help but drink.
Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)