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Old 04-30-2010, 07:20 AM
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A Healthy Reminder for Us "Oldies" When Responding

Most of us I think are great with helping newcomers! I found this on another forum site and thought it would be a good reminder for us too:

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Responses should include only compassionate and helpful remarks. "Tough love" should be sandwiched between kindness and the truth. This is known as SET communication:

S = Sympathy
E = Empathy
T = Truth

Offering advice is more than welcomed if presented in a kind, compassionate way. Talk from your heart and soul. Make sure you are not projecting after being triggered. Walk in the other person's shoes before your advise them.
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Empathy and truth........sure thing..

Sympathy.......mmmmmmmmmmm not sure about that..

for me anyhow when i was drinking sympathy was my favourite after booze.
id suck it up like a sponge....ohh poor poor me......
did it help.....nope....emotional vampire i was......

its the relatives that need the sympathy.

the drunk needs another drunk...to empathize and share the truth with.
maybe its just me but sympathy was about as useful as a chocolate T-pot.

just my experience.
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Yers, but oldies should know by now how to give appropriate sympathy? Those who enable don't use the "T" for truth. That is where the difference lies. We need to use all three to be the most effective.

Food for thought.
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Appropriate i get.....symapthy i dont.

There a wide open space between sympathy and enable and that were i believe i become most useful....well hopefully..
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I'm not an oldie at this, and I don't think the S E T items were involved, but I modified an answer to somebody today because I didn't like the initial one. Just because it was out of whack, I jumped or something. &#&*() !!
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Oh! I didn't read any really in this forum today. So, it wasn't directed at ANYONE really! Although I could see why some might think so.
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sym·pa·thy (smp-th)
n. pl. sym·pa·thies
1.

a. A relationship or an affinity between people or things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the other.

b. Mutual understanding or affection arising from this relationship or affinity.
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Although, perhaps you're right. Perhaps Compassion would be a proper fit instead of.

Of course the acronym would then be CET

Not quite as memorable.
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I like that SET could stand for:

"Setting a newcomer up for recovery".
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Yers, but oldies should know by now how to give appropriate sympathy? Those who enable don't use the "T" for truth. That is where the difference lies. We need to use all three to be the most effective.

Food for thought.

Can you define old ????
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When you turn Republican!

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When you turn Republican!

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Work. Lunch. Computer screen. You do the math. Thanks scooter!
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When you turn Republican!

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I'm going to be Peter Pan then
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reminds me of one of my favorites....

The most compasionate thing I can do today for myself and others...is to not drink
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When you turn Republican!

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You have to be careful with comments like that here... This is not a place for politics. But you started it so:

If your NOT a Liberal when your young, you have no heart.
If your NOT a Rebulican when you old, you have no brain.

My grandfather told me this one...
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Washburn,

That is almost a direct quote from Winston Churchill. The original goes like this (googled it):

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." -Sir Winston Churchill

- Tigger (a regular post-er on Family & Friends)
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You have to be careful with comments like that here... This is not a place for politics. But you started it so:

If your NOT a Liberal when your young, you have no heart.
If your NOT a Rebulican when you old, you have no brain.

My grandfather told me this one...
If Pro is opposite of Con............then what is opposite of progress?
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