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jayceereyes333 11-05-2009 02:02 AM

help yourself
 
.., the best asset you have is yourself... no one can really help you except yourself.. self determination.. :)

CarolD 11-05-2009 09:28 AM

Welcome to SR...:wave:

Wolfchild 11-05-2009 11:47 AM

:welcome

firestorm090 11-05-2009 11:50 AM

If I could've stopped drinking with self-determination alone, I wouldn't be here asking for help.

So what's your point?

penny74 11-05-2009 01:23 PM

True.. it's you and you alone that stops.
No one can "stop for you"
And no one pours a drink down you. You do that yourself.
Others can help but in the end it is you that has to do it.
You...

'You never know how strong you are until being strong is your only choice'

Horselover 11-05-2009 01:31 PM

Welcome to SR!! :)

Boleo 11-05-2009 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firestorm090 (Post 2422594)
If I could've stopped drinking with self-determination alone, I wouldn't be here asking for help.

I agree. If I could stay sober with self-determination I would have succeeded at least once in the first thousand times I tried to quit on my own.

I do agree that self-knowledge has something to do with recovery, but it is the kind of self-knowledge that comes from surrender and humility - not self-determination.

"To thy self be true" means learning what our hidden motives are and what our delusions are blocking us from.

Payton 11-05-2009 02:23 PM

I read self-determination like commitment.

Boleo 11-05-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton (Post 2422778)
I'm read self-determination like commitment.

I agree with one caveat - I am committed to the effort but detached from the results. Self-determination is what kept me attached to the results and therefore attached to self-centeredness.

sacraria 11-05-2009 04:26 PM

Another way to think of it is that self-determination means taking responsibility. I got myself into this mess, and it's my job and mine alone to get myself out - and if humbling myself and asking for and accepting help is part of what I have to do to solve this problem, then it's my responsibility to swallow my pride and do exactly that.


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