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Old 10-10-2009, 09:44 AM
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:praying First let me tell you about myself I am a 40 year old female who has been taking Lorcet Plus (a pain Killer) on and off for 15 years due to a medical condition in my lower back. I have seen over 50 different doctors and had many many medical things done but they all write the script in the mean time. I have tried to quit cold turkey on my own before but for me withdrawls are flu like symtoms x 100 I run fevers, I throw up, I cannot stay out of the bathroom. I have shakes, cramps in my stomach and I feel like I am abt to die and the whole time my back is killing me. My cold turkey quitting lasted less than 24 hours and I found someone I could buy some from and did. Within 2 hours I felt fine again.

Once abt 4 years ago I went to the same doctor that has been giving them to me for 6 years and told him I didnt want to take them anymore. So he did the weining off thing, I went from 10 mgs to 7.5 and then 3 months at 5mgs. When those ran out I went threw abt 10 hours of withdrawls and bought them. Went back to the doctor and he gave them to me again.

Now its been 4 or so years and I cannot remember a day I havent taken them, I have been perscribed 4 or 40 mgs a day but I take more like 8 or 80 mgs which means I run out way before I am suppose too and then buy the rest until my next refill. Which makes me always broke. And is the number one problem in my house whole my bf and I fight about money more than anything because I would spend every dime I had on them. As far as I am concerned I can live without alot of things but not them.

I have decided on my own that it is time to stop all together and this time I plan to go threw detox. I found a place that does inhouse detox and I am walking in Monday morning. I do not know a think about detox other than what they told me on the phone. I am scared to death, I am scared about detox, I am scared about doing it alone with out anyone I know being their, I am scared about failing and most of all I am scared abt the back pain coming back. Right now I am keeping myself so medicated that I dont have back pain but what happens when the pain meds are out of my system and the pain comes back.

Just like I told the doctor when I he first wrote the script in the begining, I wake up in pain, I spend my day in pain and I go to bed with the help of another drug in pain. The only time I am not in pain is when I am asleep. If this is what I have to look forward to every day then I dont see a point in living. Please do not take this as a sucide msg because I am not going to hurt myself or anyone else.

I have already set myself up to fail, I want to do this because I want to give it a try but I am so scared that if I dont get a good support system in place that I will fail and start using again.

I joined this group in hopes that someone could tell me more about detox and what to expect. I have had a few people I know go threw this and they told me some things but I fear that it was sugar coated. Most people I know who detox did it from other types of drugs not pain killers. Any advice that anyone has, I look forward to hearing abt even if it isnt detox info. I don't know about other withdrawl medications I have taken metodone before but I really didnt like it and would rather not take it again. But after reading other post today I understand that this Suboxen is habit forming as well. I thought that from listing to a friend that when your in the detox hospital they give you a shot of it every 4 hours to help with withdrawls for abt 2 or 3 days and then they change you to a pill form. But I thought in 2 weeks which is what I understand it takes for pain killers withdrawls to be back to normal that you no longer take that either.

I already have been diagnoised with Insomnia and I dont sleep without some form of sleeping medication. My same dr gives me abien but that really doesnt work as well as other drugs like sequirel ( I dont know how to spell it) and klopine mixed together those work better to help me sleep all night but I was getting those from a shrink and she didnt know about the pain killers and I had to stop going to her because I could afford to pay my co pay and pay for pain killers too.

Anyway I am looking for friends who have been their and done that maybe some one who can be supportive and give me advice.

I am going to read a few more post then I am going to clean my house because I have to get ready to be gone for an unlimited amt of time.

Thanks for listening.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:52 AM
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Hi Dallar & to SR. You will find a lot of support & understading here.

It might be beneficial to also post your introduction here Substance Abuse - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

All of the best in your recovery

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Welcome to Sr.

Going through a detox facility can be tough stuff, but not near as tough as staying addicted for the rest of your life. It will be touch and go for awhile, and you may experience the back pain again, but there are alternatives to narcotics that hopefully will work for you. I experienced severe back pain about five yrs ago after falling from a ladder while working. I took pain pills in the beginning, Vicodin, then Percocet, but became so goofy that I couldn't remember when I'd taken them, so I popped more than prescribed, which made me even more goofy, so I finally asked my doc to put me on something else. He prescribed Ibuprofen, but they tore up my stomach, so I just went cold turkey off all of it and decided to strengthen my back. I started exercising each day and soon my back was able to handle work again and it's been fine ever since. My answer was exercise, but yours may be a totally different combo of remedies to improve your back condition. I applaud your resolve to get healthy and would suggest considering exercise, even in limited amounts as a means of strengthening your back, however I am not qualified to advise you in any way. My experience may be totally unequal to yours, so a trip to a back specialist may be worth the expense.
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good place for advice and support here
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Hi Dallar

I'm an alcoholic and I've never been to detox, but I wanted to welcome you

I know a lot of the issue with recovery is the fear of change, but trust me noone swaps addiction for a worse life - it won't be easy - but you're doing the right thing...the best thing - and you're not alone

You find a lot of support here - like NB said above, feel free to take a look at the Substance Abuse forum as well.

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Old 10-10-2009, 04:07 PM
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Hi and Welcome,

I have detoxed from alcohol and it is not something I want to do ever again. I know you will be able to get through this and you will be in a safe situation. You may find that your sleep improves when you are off the drugs and you may also find that you feel better physically.

I wish you well, and please post again when you can.
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Hi Dallar

Welcome to SR
I have never been to a detox facility, I chose to do it at home with the help of Suboxone. It has been said that Suboxone can have withdrawl effects, I was on it for 1 year and tapered so slowly, I did not experience w/d. It was more so the anxiety of not having it anymore, and doing all on my own now. In my opinion, Suboxone is a great aid in recovery. Along with working a program! Glad to hear you decided to get clean, and am sorry you have so much pain. I had back surgery 3 years ago, which started my pain med addiction, I was so scared of feeling that pain everyday again, not being able to live a normal active life again without pain. To my surprise when i gave myself a few months after the suboxone, the pain had truly subsided to bearable with ibuprofen!

I hope everything works out for you and Good luck.
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Welcome to SR, Dallar!



We got support, lots of support here... Don't know much about painkillers. I'm an alcoholic too, and I've detoxed from that... the best I can suggest here is don't go back again after.

Detox is not fun, no telling exactly what you'll go through, every drug's different, everybody's different, and every time is too. But it gets much better afterwards, just remember that on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday... you get the picture.

And come back to us! We're friendly.


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Old 10-10-2009, 11:41 PM
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Hi Ya Dollar

Glad that you're here! Welcome!



Even though I've never been to a detox center I have detoxed all of my life almost. It isn't easy at first to stay away from alcohol or anything else as far as that matters but the important thing to remember is to keep on trying no matter what.

I have a lot of issues that alcohol just covered up. And being sober now, it is very hard sometimes to deal with them all. Yet I have to remain sober. What is the hard part is trying just to figure out your feelings and what is really going on behind the wall of my brain.

I have to always try to remember to ask myself what is my motive. When I forget to ask myself and just react like I have always done than I am in trouble within myself.

I hope you keep coming back glad that you're here!
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