Mark75

LOL

Also... you know, I've thought of this alcoholism like the Garden of Eden thing also! Remember, God sent them somewhere East of Eden and made their lives harder than they would have been.

Maybe we just like ef-ing stuff up?

Mark

Quse56

"The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker."

Philly

Thanks for posting Mark. We are pretty close in recovery- I just had a year- and you seem to ask alot of questions that I am thinking about. My husband is and probably always will be a binge drinker. He gets to the point where it is not enjoyable. He gets very bad hangovers. I say this because I think for me it would be harder to see on a daily basis someone actually enjoying a drink. I enjoyed it also. But it got the better of me. My body would not allow me to be a social drinker in a binge drinking environment. To answer your question it is a big deal for us because it probably means life or death. So lets enjoy what we have and know that it beats the alternative. Keep up the good work and asking the right questions. This was my first time trying to quit and I really don't want a second.

Mark75

Yea, this has been a challenging year... if possible, once will be enough, thank you very much...

Mark

Wolfchild

i have come to believe that i lost my innocence concerning
any use of drugs and alcohol. i might be able to stop short
of total destruction for a time, but i will always take it to
the extreme until the end. i am an addict and an alcoholic.
i lost my ability to live and enjoy life using and drinking to
the disease of addiction and the disease of alcoholism.
There are no two ways about it, no illusions, no denial.

i hope that you continue to make significant progress
in surrendering to a 12 Step way of recovery & life.

Mark75

Thanx Wolf...

Mark

ian_g

Cubile I don't think there is a better explanation anywhere than in The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous.

I'll state a few things...I absolutely relate with that "I just caught a habit" mentality. It was always "It's just a bad stretch and due to circumstances things ended up the way they did" or "If I can get X,Y, and Z together things will be fine and I can return". What ended up happening well I would normally never piece together any areas of my life and would just return anyways. I would however try as the Big Book states "Drink like a gentleman" only to return to more normal alcoholic tendencies, why, because I'm hopeless...not the type who just hit a dry patch.

The other thing the Big Book points out is "The idea that we are like other people has to be smashed. We have lost the ability to drink like normal people. We are like men who lost their legs, they never grow new ones. Neither does there seem to be any method of making a normal drinker out of an alcoholic". I don't have the book so certain things may not be verbatim but what it states is along those lines.

Hope this helps.

- Ian

Rusty Zipper

cuby cuz The Rat (voice of addictions) is always trying to call us back!

stop thinking, and go find somemore good music pics! lol

blessings

zip