Would I be better off just attending AA?
Would I be better off just attending AA?
Hi everyone,
I made a post the other day about joining IOP...group therapy...This is my first week, and I've been going every day..I had mentioned in my other post, there aren't many alcoholics in the group, mostly hardcore drug addicts who pretty much are mandated to be there, have been to prison...etc..I didn't know anything about the program when I joined...I thought it was basically intense treatment to learn coping skills for alcoholics and to help me stay sober...The excercises they have been giving in the sessions, make no sense to me...maybe there is a point to it somewhere, but I don't see it...One excercise was dividing people into groups of 3, emptying out a cup of pennies, and stacking them up in two's , then five's, then one big stack...another was looking at the person next to you and guessing their favorite color/hobby...stuff like that.. besides that I am noticing a few triggers in there...A lot of people have been asking me for rides home that live in all different places...I don't mind dropping someone off, but I don't even know anyone in there yet...and I have already been asked 3 times...Also there is a guy in there who looks just like an ex who really hurt me bad...and I had started drinking ALOT at that time, and every time I look at him I feel like I want to cry...and the last thing is, there is this one guy who has been making inappropriate, sexual comments to me...He has been kicked out of the program before, but they let him back in, because if he doesn't complete it, he goes back to jail...I have met a few nice people in there, but today I came home and I feel terrible...I am trying to give it time, but there seems to be alot of triggers in there for me, and I really felt like drinking today...I am wondering if I am just better off sticking with AA meetings. I have a one on one appt. with the therapist tomm. I will bring this up to her and see what she thinks. Thanks for reading, and if you have any opinions, I am open to hearing them.
I made a post the other day about joining IOP...group therapy...This is my first week, and I've been going every day..I had mentioned in my other post, there aren't many alcoholics in the group, mostly hardcore drug addicts who pretty much are mandated to be there, have been to prison...etc..I didn't know anything about the program when I joined...I thought it was basically intense treatment to learn coping skills for alcoholics and to help me stay sober...The excercises they have been giving in the sessions, make no sense to me...maybe there is a point to it somewhere, but I don't see it...One excercise was dividing people into groups of 3, emptying out a cup of pennies, and stacking them up in two's , then five's, then one big stack...another was looking at the person next to you and guessing their favorite color/hobby...stuff like that.. besides that I am noticing a few triggers in there...A lot of people have been asking me for rides home that live in all different places...I don't mind dropping someone off, but I don't even know anyone in there yet...and I have already been asked 3 times...Also there is a guy in there who looks just like an ex who really hurt me bad...and I had started drinking ALOT at that time, and every time I look at him I feel like I want to cry...and the last thing is, there is this one guy who has been making inappropriate, sexual comments to me...He has been kicked out of the program before, but they let him back in, because if he doesn't complete it, he goes back to jail...I have met a few nice people in there, but today I came home and I feel terrible...I am trying to give it time, but there seems to be alot of triggers in there for me, and I really felt like drinking today...I am wondering if I am just better off sticking with AA meetings. I have a one on one appt. with the therapist tomm. I will bring this up to her and see what she thinks. Thanks for reading, and if you have any opinions, I am open to hearing them.
Hey there Sweets.
That IOP group sounds like a pirate ship. Pretty horrible.
Have no advice other than: keep hunting for anything that can help you out at this moment.
Sending some strength (the little i have to today) your way.
That IOP group sounds like a pirate ship. Pretty horrible.
Have no advice other than: keep hunting for anything that can help you out at this moment.
Sending some strength (the little i have to today) your way.
What is best for you, only you and your therapist can decide...
What about finding a women's AA group at a church or somewhere, and attending before you make any more decisions? Or just about any other AA meeting not affiliated with a treatment center? You don't have anything to lose!
Thanx for posting... my thoughts go out to you.
Mark
What about finding a women's AA group at a church or somewhere, and attending before you make any more decisions? Or just about any other AA meeting not affiliated with a treatment center? You don't have anything to lose!
Thanx for posting... my thoughts go out to you.
Mark
Sweets, that does not sound like a great support to me, you have to be somewhere where you are comfortable. The first couple of times I went to AA meetings I was not at all comfortable, at the particular location I went it seem to be mainly much older men who looked like they lived on the streets (I was in my 40s and came to the meetings in a business suit) and I definetly did not like the way they looked at me, then I found a woman's group and felt much better there but it still wasn't right or more accurately I still wasn't ready to stop drinking. When I went to AA in 2007 I immediately found a great group and although I didn't stick with AA I have stuck with sobriety and part of the reason is because of the good experiences I had with AA. talk to your therapist perhaps he/she has other ideas for your treatment.
Sweets, that does not sound like a great support to me, you have to be somewhere where you are comfortable. The first couple of times I went to AA meetings I was not at all comfortable, at the particular location I went it seem to be mainly much older men who looked like they lived on the streets (I was in my 40s and came to the meetings in a business suit) and I definetly did not like the way they looked at me, then I found a woman's group and felt much better there but it still wasn't right or more accurately I still wasn't ready to stop drinking. When I went to AA in 2007 I immediately found a great group and although I didn't stick with AA I have stuck with sobriety and part of the reason is because of the good experiences I had with AA. talk to your therapist perhaps he/she has other ideas for your treatment.
I'd give it time.. it's so new, and everything is likely a bit uncomfy at this point. You could ALSO go to AA meetings. I was pretty darn uncomfy in them myself.. it's a hard road.
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Sweets. You are procceding the right way about this. Not every approach is right for every person. A group that has several members that are forced to be there will never be as good as a group where everyone is there because they really want to get better. You should definitely check out AA. Ask your councilor to recommend one.
Sweets. You are procceding the right way about this. Not every approach is right for every person. A group that has several members that are forced to be there will never be as good as a group where everyone is there because they really want to get better. You should definitely check out AA. Ask your councilor to recommend one.
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AA is free and avaliable. Contrary to popular opinion, AA is not a Cult. You are welcome to leave anytime you want if things don't work out.
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Sweets,
Nobody said you can't continue your IOP and start attending AA. Most likely, when IOP runs it's course, AA or something else will be recommended long term. But, you may meet some undesirable folks in AA or wherever you go. It may not be to your liking. The point is, recovery is going to require that you do some things that you are resistant to do, some things you may balk at or not understand. I don't know why you are sorting pennies, but if you have already decided that sorting pennies is a waste of time, you may have the same problem with any recovery program. AA steps require self-searching, leveling of pride, confession of shortcomings, admitting faults, all sorts of things that aren't that much fun.
If I had known all the answers on how to stay sober, I wouldn't have spent so long being drunk.
Nobody said you can't continue your IOP and start attending AA. Most likely, when IOP runs it's course, AA or something else will be recommended long term. But, you may meet some undesirable folks in AA or wherever you go. It may not be to your liking. The point is, recovery is going to require that you do some things that you are resistant to do, some things you may balk at or not understand. I don't know why you are sorting pennies, but if you have already decided that sorting pennies is a waste of time, you may have the same problem with any recovery program. AA steps require self-searching, leveling of pride, confession of shortcomings, admitting faults, all sorts of things that aren't that much fun.
If I had known all the answers on how to stay sober, I wouldn't have spent so long being drunk.
Sweets,
Nobody said you can't continue your IOP and start attending AA. Most likely, when IOP runs it's course, AA or something else will be recommended long term. But, you may meet some undesirable folks in AA or wherever you go. It may not be to your liking. The point is, recovery is going to require that you do some things that you are resistant to do, some things you may balk at or not understand. I don't know why you are sorting pennies, but if you have already decided that sorting pennies is a waste of time, you may have the same problem with any recovery program. AA steps require self-searching, leveling of pride, confession of shortcomings, admitting faults, all sorts of things that aren't that much fun.
If I had known all the answers on how to stay sober, I wouldn't have spent so long being drunk.
Nobody said you can't continue your IOP and start attending AA. Most likely, when IOP runs it's course, AA or something else will be recommended long term. But, you may meet some undesirable folks in AA or wherever you go. It may not be to your liking. The point is, recovery is going to require that you do some things that you are resistant to do, some things you may balk at or not understand. I don't know why you are sorting pennies, but if you have already decided that sorting pennies is a waste of time, you may have the same problem with any recovery program. AA steps require self-searching, leveling of pride, confession of shortcomings, admitting faults, all sorts of things that aren't that much fun.
If I had known all the answers on how to stay sober, I wouldn't have spent so long being drunk.
I would SAY SOMETHING to the 'stalker' guy, and in front of the group leader too. Or would at least bring it to the leader's attention. Or next time he says something nasty to you, say loudly "I don't appreciate your harassment and want you to stop it now!" I did something like that in a theatre a long time ago and the guy was embarassed and left.
Give AA a good try. Go to several different meetings, different types and times, until you find one or more you like. They sure the hell won't be having a penny-stacking contest!
Give AA a good try. Go to several different meetings, different types and times, until you find one or more you like. They sure the hell won't be having a penny-stacking contest!
Who said I wouldnt? I already went to 2 meetings, that wasn't the point of my post....The point was I wanted some feedback about this group I've been going too, if this is how they are usually run, and if I would just be better off sticking with AA meetings, because this group seem to deal mainly with drug abuse and doesn't seem to offer any insight into alcoholism, and becoming/staying sober...Plus I am being harrassed by some guy there, so I guess basically I have my own answer...I am just going to go to AA and see a therapist once a week.
I would SAY SOMETHING to the 'stalker' guy, and in front of the group leader too. Or would at least bring it to the leader's attention. Or next time he says something nasty to you, say loudly "I don't appreciate your harassment and want you to stop it now!" I did something like that in a theatre a long time ago and the guy was embarassed and left.
Give AA a good try. Go to several different meetings, different types and times, until you find one or more you like. They sure the hell won't be having a penny-stacking contest!
Give AA a good try. Go to several different meetings, different types and times, until you find one or more you like. They sure the hell won't be having a penny-stacking contest!
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