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Old 07-17-2008, 09:54 AM
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I'll try to keep this short and with as little whining as possible. Let me start by saying that I KNOW that my bottom may look like luxury to some. I know I am lucky to have a family who will take me in and a job when everyone is hurting for money....I'm off track.

I addicted to pain pills..mostly loratabs. That's what I thought anyway until I couldn't get ahold of them recently (for about two months)and started upping my prescribed Ativan(that I've been off and on...mostly on since around 14yrs. I'm 32 now) to make it around the opiate withdrawal symptoms that i'd started to feel from no pain pills.(oh and I'm on zoloft & welbutrin and have been on some antidepresant since 12 or so).

I BELIEVE that I've only been abusing the pain pills for about a year now. I took them at parties once in a blue moon in college then was diagnossed with Trigiminial Nueralgia a disease that is extremelly painful but not constantly...so they were around. Over time I started taking them when I felt sad and in the last year it's been daily no matter how I felt.

I've been lurking and researching for a while, so the "sub route" looks right to me since I can't tell enough people to make it cold turkey...plus I'm scared. Scared of my depression of what will happen in my head if I feel worse than I do now.

Still can't "find anything" and running low on my ativan. I am feeling withdrawals from both now, I think.

2 questions(for now..ha):
is anyone taking their antidepresants with pain pills or did you?

can i even be considered for the sub programs if i take antidepressants and ativan regularly?

OK. Hit me.
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:59 AM
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Welcome Trapped! Glad that you found us

Please check out our forums and the stickies at the top of the forums-There
is a lot of support here!

Others will be along to share more with you-
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:33 AM
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nice to meet you, trapped. can you call/visit your doctor for advice?

keep reaching out! glad you found us. hugs, k
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:45 AM
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Great job coming in to post and welcome.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:22 PM
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I have no experience to answer your questions but I do know that withdrawal from benzos can be difficult. Can you go to your doctor and tell them that you want to quit the pain pills and ativan? There might be something they can do for you to make the withdrawal easier to tolerate.

Do'nt give up on yourself! It will take time, but just take it ONE DAY AT A TIME!

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Old 07-17-2008, 02:36 PM
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Welcome to SR....

I suggest you take a read around our
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And share there too.

I have no experience with your situation
as I am a recovered alcoholic.

Good luck ...
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:03 PM
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Welcome. I think a bit of whining is permissable now and then.

But your post didnt come across that way at all. I dont have any personal experience of the meds you mention but am very glad you are here.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:02 PM
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I think you should print out exactly what you posted and take it to your doctor.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:29 PM
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hi trapped....I'm glad you are here...I did drugs for a long time and alchohol as well...but not perscritions...

Yes...talking to a doctor is a very good idea.

You will find alot of people here who will support you as you work toward recovery! We are mostly a great bunch.

It's a great first step that you realize you have a problem to deal with. please talk with your doctor and let us know how that goes. It is really helpful to have a doctor assist with the physical withdrawal stuff.

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Old 07-17-2008, 04:37 PM
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Hi and Welcome,

As others have said, talking to your dr is the best way to go.

I think you will find lots of support here.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:11 PM
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can i even be considered for the sub programs if i take antidepressants and ativan regularly?
i'm not sure what this question means. elaborate if you want to.

i can relate to depression and the fear that not taking the ativan will make the pain worse.

you've had some good ideas to consider here. be strong and follow your heart
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:36 AM
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thanks everyone

I don't know if I should hit the Post Reply button or use this Quick Reply space..hope this works.

CarolID, I have been reading the Substance Abuse Forum and found it extremely helpful. Thanks. I'll repost there too.

As for telling my doctor...I don't really have a primary care doc. I moved a lot and the guy I'm with now is one of those urgent care type facility doctors and to be honest, he's really only good for bronchitis or "simple" visits. There is no relationship there. I lost my insurance this year. I quit my job to write a book (that is being published) but work for my father right now while I job hunt. Obviously money is a factor. I also moved back to my home town and can't go back to the doc I used before. There is no such thing as confidentiality. People knew things about me that could only have come from the dr's office but there is no way to prove it.

I guess what I'm saying is there is no one besides my psycologist and to be honest...he just hands out meds. I don't trust him to not judge me or just give up on me...it happened so many times while I was being diagnosed with the TN before. Rare diseases (in small towns & especially if you are a woman) are written off as "hysteria" or "all in my head". I have had really unfortunate experience with doctors. That's why I thought going straight to an adictionologist or treatment facility would be my best bet.....?

KSplash,

I know that the sub is a powerful opiate and there seems to be some debate as to whether one can take their benzos or antidepresants while on it. I have NO DOUBT that I was born with a chemical imbalance that causes my depression and anxiety. People are simply not suicidal at 5yrs old for no apparent reason. So I know I need those meds. I do not want to give them up and I am afraid that that is what will be done if I seek an outpatient medical rehab treatment. Methadone is not an option... that scares the **** out of me. I was just wondering if anyone here had gone through something similar... Needing the antis and benzo's but needing to kick the opiates. Thanks.
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Keep coming back, Trapped.

My own experience is that without a medical doctor's guidance I was always flailing around blindly and getting nowhere.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:39 AM
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Dear Trapped, I know how you feel. I was a wino for many years until discovering oxycodone and clonazapam (Klonopin). Then I was in heaven since I could go about my business while high without ingesting all those pesky calories in the wine. Mixing the two just got them used up faster and so I just slowly drifted away from alcohol. It is a tense situation when the supply runs low and you can't ask for more without running the risk of having the Dr cut them off completely. Lortab and Vicodin were fine for a toothache now and then but then the Dr. prescribed Norco 10/325 #30/month and I couldn't believe it. I'm in my 50's and have had my share of humiliating incidents so I knew 4 mg clonazepam and two Norco everyday was WAY too much so I had him lower the amount because if I had them in the house, I would take them. Besides, I work and go to the local college with a 4.0 GPA which is hard to maintain when unable to get out of bed. You may be someone who physically/emotionally needs a bit of "levelling out" to make it through the day, but you posted feeling anxious that your Xanax was running low. Since you're probably running low because you exceeded the prescribed amount earlier, just suck up reality and break the remaining ones in half until you can refill the prescription. It boils down to the fact that you have two choices: Either quit completely or learn to live on the dosage prescribed. I guarantee that asking for more will get you none. IMO medication should enhance one's live not cause it to deteriorate or cause divorce or discord. I have mental illness in my family and never would have had the courage to go back to school after over 30 years without the stability my medications provide.I've been on 15 or 20 antidepressants and finally decided to eliminate them completely and I feel better. Also I splurged and bought a package of 5 tans at a tanning salon and those minutes of warmth and security have made me feel wonderful, as well as improving my appearance. I don't know your age, but I'm guessing mid thirties and that is how I was. What I've posted is how I am now. It's a struggle and the answer is different for everyone. If the meds affect your work, relationships or get you in legal trouble then quitting is the only option. Otherwise, medications properly prescribed and taken responsibly can improve your quality of life. The bottom line is: life is a struggle with or without medications. I'm glad you found the site and I hope you continue to post.
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