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Old 12-29-2007, 11:13 PM
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Hi there and welcome to SR!

it is a good idea to speak to your GP, and be very honest with him regarding your drinking, and be guided by his advice. it can be very dangerous to detox without medical supervision

That being said , congratulations on your decicision, have you got a plan for support ?

personally I use the programme of AA, and find it invaluable

Good luck, keep posting

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Old 12-29-2007, 11:22 PM
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Welcome to SR. Glad you are here.

Here are a couple of links to help you out.

Recovery programs:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...-programs.html

Quitting what to expect, what we did:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...at-we-did.html

Excerpts from "Under the Influence":
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...influence.html

Curious about AA?:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...-about-aa.html
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarcanyn View Post
I have never known anyone that had any adverse reactions or severe withdrawls from beer... but now I'm not so sure...
Unfortunately, withdrawls often referred to as DT's do happen to many people. These can include such severe reactions as hallucinations, seizures, and death. I would strongly recommend speaking with your doctor as he is best qualified to help you with withdrawls if you are someone who is prone to have them. Withdrawls can happen to anyone who has abused alcohol for any length of time. It is not necessarily based on how much the person drinks but rather on how their body reacts to not having the alcohol.

As you progress through sobriety you also may find that even if you do not experience the early typically thought about withdrawls/DT's, that you may be experiencing a condition known as Post Acute Withdrawl Syndrome. Here is a link to a web site that explains this in more detail.
Post Acute Withdrawl - Relapse Prevention Specialists - TLC The Living Center

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Old 12-29-2007, 11:30 PM
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Welcome.

We have a few things in common, I'm also 38 and I was drinking 6-10 beers a night, not every night but sometimes a lot more. Some days it was none, then 2-4 for a few days and then the weekend would hit and I'd probably drink 15 on a Saturday.

There's a lot of information on quiting, detox, withdrawls, etc on this site. The "New to Recovery" section has some good information, you'll get idea about what to expect.

I'm going on Day 14 sober, so I'm no expert but here's where I'm at.
I quit cold turkey but knowing what I know now, I would have contacted my Dr. first and been completely honest with him. Alcohol withdrawl can be dangerous and even deadly in some cases.

I can tell you that I was not a happy camper for the first 2-3 days. Days 1-2, chills, hot flashes, feeling like I was going to throw up, etc. Days 3-7, a lot of anxiety, emotions all over the map, bad cravings. After that, things got a whole lot better.

You started in the right place by being here, it's been a great sounding board for me. Without this place and some AA meetings, I would not have made it this far.

I'm sure some of the more experienced (long term recovery) people will be along soon to help you.

Welcome and good luck with your sobriety. It's definitely worth the effort.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:34 PM
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Glad you found us....

According to the CDC....
Moderate drinking is no more than 2 drinks a day for men..1 for women
They consider a drink to be
12 oz. of beer..5 oz. of wine...1 1/2 oz liquor.

Your body and mind processes all 3 toxins equally
so drinking only wine or only liquor or only beer
or mixing them is of no importance.
They all do the same damage.
They give you they same withdrawal symptoms.

So yes...beer drinkers also can be in danger.
Please consult your doctor
Be both safe and sober!

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Old 12-29-2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Scarcanyn View Post
Thanks everyone for your advice, i will talk to a doctor first. i posted here because i was a bit nervous and unsure, after reading some of the info from the links sent I guess its allot more serious than i thought I'm almost afraid to start the process.. (Almost)!
Thanks again for your words and encouragement...
I'll go talk to the Doc on monday
Glad to hear it. Please be sure to keep in touch with us and let us know how you are doing.
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:54 AM
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DT does not stand for detox as many people believe.

DTs are NOT the same as withdrawals. DTs are a subset if withdrawal symptoms that only occurs in about 5% of alcoholics. DT stands for delerium tremens a Latin medical term meaning roughly "trembling madness" in English.

The worst thing is DTs have about a 35% death rate if untreated.

The symptoms of DTs are high blood pressure and heart rate, breathing difficulty, auditory and visual hallucinations, lack of motor control of arms and legs, seizures, electric sensations on the arms and legs, and mental confusion to the point that it is difficult to carry on a conversation with the subject. And as mentioned before, death.

Here is a good wiki article on DTs:

Delirium tremens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So while you are not likely to have DTs, you will most likely still have withdrawals. Please keep a close eye on your blood pressure and heart rate, and by all means talk to your Dr. There are ways to make your withdrawals easier to bear.

What are you planning on doing to maintain sobriety after the first few days of withdrawals?
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nandm View Post
Unfortunately, withdrawls often referred to as DT's do happen to many people. These can include such severe reactions as hallucinations, seizures, and death. I would strongly recommend speaking with your doctor as he is best qualified to help you with withdrawls if you are someone who is prone to have them. Withdrawls can happen to anyone who has abused alcohol for any length of time. It is not necessarily based on how much the person drinks but rather on how their body reacts to not having the alcohol.

As you progress through sobriety you also may find that even if you do not experience the early typically thought about withdrawls/DT's, that you may be experiencing a condition known as Post Acute Withdrawl Syndrome. Here is a link to a web site that explains this in more detail.
Post Acute Withdrawl - Relapse Prevention Specialists - TLC The Living Center


Once again welcome to SR.
This is so true and so important. Folks tend to see alcohol as a "soft" drug and as such wd is less severe, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth -- in fact, regarding death as a consequence, the only substance withdrawal that has been proven to be capable of causing death is WD from alcohol. Not so soft after all.....
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dgillz View Post
DT does not stand for detox as many people believe.

DTs are NOT the same as withdrawals. DTs are a subset if withdrawal symptoms that only occurs in about 5% of alcoholics. DT stands for delerium tremens a Latin medical term meaning roughly "trembling madness" in English.

The worst thing is DTs have about a 35% death rate if untreated.

The symptoms of DTs are high blood pressure and heart rate, breathing difficulty, auditory and visual hallucinations, lack of motor control of arms and legs, seizures, electric sensations on the arms and legs, and mental confusion to the point that it is difficult to carry on a conversation with the subject. And as mentioned before, death.

Here is a good wiki article on DTs:

Delirium tremens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So while you are not likely to have DTs, you will most likely still have withdrawals. Please keep a close eye on your blood pressure and heart rate, and by all means talk to your Dr. There are ways to make your withdrawals easier to bear.

What are you planning on doing to maintain sobriety after the first few days of withdrawals?
Thanks for your post dgillz...I wish I'd had that info handy when I quit cold turkey but I'm guessing that knowledge wasn't widely available back in '88...that said I suffered most of the symptoms associated with severe withdrawals, I was drinking every single day to the point of blackout/passout. Few sober folks can imagine what some/most of us go through to achieve sobriety so please make sure you find a doctor sufficiently well versed in withdrawals...not all are!
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dgillz View Post
DT does not stand for detox as many people believe.

DTs are NOT the same as withdrawals. DTs are a subset if withdrawal symptoms that only occurs in about 5% of alcoholics. DT stands for delerium tremens a Latin medical term meaning roughly "trembling madness" in English.

The worst thing is DTs have about a 35% death rate if untreated.

The symptoms of DTs are high blood pressure and heart rate, breathing difficulty, auditory and visual hallucinations, lack of motor control of arms and legs, seizures, electric sensations on the arms and legs, and mental confusion to the point that it is difficult to carry on a conversation with the subject. And as mentioned before, death.

Here is a good wiki article on DTs:

Delirium tremens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So while you are not likely to have DTs, you will most likely still have withdrawals. Please keep a close eye on your blood pressure and heart rate, and by all means talk to your Dr. There are ways to make your withdrawals easier to bear.

What are you planning on doing to maintain sobriety after the first few days of withdrawals?
Thanks for clearing up the sematics.
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:11 AM
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please make sure you find a doctor sufficiently well versed in withdrawals...not all are!
I cannot agree more. My Doctor was clueless when I quite cold turkey from a bottle a day bourbon habit a couple of years ago.

I have since educated my Dr. on this, and in fact have found a medical specialist in addiction and withdrawal locally. Not that I ever plan on going through THAT again!
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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I have nothing enlightening to add, just adding a welcome!!

I'm 39 and my drink of choice was Bacardi Select. Ah, I can almost taste it. Almost. Today is day 10 for me.

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Congrats on day one! Hope you have a good rest (you deserve it!)
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