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Old 06-21-2018, 04:26 AM
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Good morning all. Up early and wanted to get something posted in case the anesthesia makes me goofy for the rest of the day. I don't have much history with anesthesia so I am not sure how I will react.

Thank you all for the kind words and thoughts. It means the world to me.

Numblady, congratulations on making it to a meeting. As you said, try a few different ones. It is okay to shop around. When I was going there were the meetings that I loved and the ones I might go to if there was nothing better to do. The AA program, in its entirety, never really clicked with me, but I enjoyed the support and camaraderie of meetings. The only requirement of AA is that you desire to stop drinking.

I will try to check-in after the procedure if I am aware enough.
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:41 AM
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I think you did great Numblady

Best wishes again Chase - I'm sure you'll be fine

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NewChapter, HOW do you work with your husband? Haha, I'm kidding, but not really because I'm 100% sure I would kill mine if he started talking down to me (or if I even perceived it!) Do you think you may have been more tolerant of that stuff before you were sober, when you could just kind of push it down with drinking and not really have to face it?

Chase, I really hope your procedure goes well today, and that you finally get some answers that will lead to resolving the problem. Please check in and let us know how it goes, I will be thinking of you!

Numblady, that's so amazing that you decided to take the plunge and go to a meeting. The last time I tried to seriously quit drinking (this was YEARS ago), I joined a small outpatient therapy group which was extremely beneficial, mostly because everyone but me was required to be there so I 1) got a good look at future consequences, and 2) there was a lot of continuity from one session to the next. The group leader kept emphasizing the need to go to AA for group support, so I made my rounds to a bunch of different ones, looking for the right fit. Not only was it super awkward for me, I just felt completely disconnected from most of the people. They seemed to be either lifers, or young people who seemed like they had to be there.

I know for sure that I was not truly open-minded and did not give it a real shot. I never announced myself as a newcomer, tried to interact meaningfully with other people, or ever got past surface interactions, so I definitely can't fault the program for that. But it has made me somewhat reticent about trying it again.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:08 PM
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Hi friends.

Procedure went well. The good news: no signs of cancer or major disease. The bad news: no explanation for the symptoms I have been having for the last 5 years. I am back to square one, or more aptly, have never actually left square one. To most a clean and healthy test would be good news. I am quite disheartened because I don't know where we go from here. I have a follow up appointment with the gi specialist in about a week and a half.

Sorry for the downtrodden post and self pity. I will be back tomorrow.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:27 PM
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Aww Chase I am so sorry. I know that is exactly what you feared. I wish I had some helpful advice. But actually probably at this point advice is one of the last things you need. I bet every time you bring up your issues people offer you nutritional advice and elimination diets and whatnot. I don’t blame you for being downtrodden but will hope that this clears the way for exploring other issues and eventually nailing down the cause.

More later/tomorrow. Just wanted to say that to Chase before I fall asleep.
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Old 06-22-2018, 03:25 AM
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Chase, I want to just ditto Numblady (and I assume your doctors know about your drinking). I really hope you get some answers soon, I can't imagine how it must feel to live in constant pain/discomfort.


Cool, rainy, overcast morning here...which is kind of nice. I had a productive day of work yesterday, and I'm planning another one for today. We have a busy weekend ahead, so hopefully I'll optimize my one day to get organized. I've been thinking a lot about work lately, and how I really want to ramp up my job search. More on that later.

I'm reading a really good book (The Liars Club, by Mary Karr). It's a memoir, and Karr's mother struggles with drinking and mental illness. Seeing it from a child's perspective (so far) is so sad, but also affirming because I'm sober. It's also dredging up some buried memories about my own family, which are nowhere near the scope of what Karr endured, but some commonalities do exist. I'm absolutely loving falling asleep sober with a good book...THE BEST!
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:50 AM
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Hi Class!

@Dee: Thanks for your comments re: hubby. Usually we are really good at talking things out, but something told me that this one was better to let lie, as you suggested. It seems like this was the right call, as he seemed to realise on his own time that the remarks may have been misguided.

@Numblady: Well done on your first meeting! I can imagine it was terrifying, but it sounds like you handled yourself immaculately. I'm so glad you finally took the leap as i know it's been something you've wanted to do for a while now. Thanks also for supportive words re: hubby. It's funny that you mention your counter as a source of strength, I've found myself opening the counter app on my phone a lot over the past week when AV has been acting up, trying to remind myself of the work I've put in and how much I would be giving up. Seems to be working so far.

@Palmer: Haha trust me - it comes close some times!! ;-) Thankfully I think he realised he was in the wrong - and I think @Chase was spot on with his suspicion that the remarks may have been more about my husband than me - that evening when he came home from tennis match he was very attentive and almost remorseful. Though he didn't reference it directly, he gave the impression he knew that I wasn't happy about what was said. He was also up all through the night and apparently had a nightmare that I cheated (LOL -this has never and will never happen, and he definitely doesn't suspect/believe that it is/has/would). So my reading of the entire situation is that he may be stressing about some things and, just as @Chase suggested, he was perhaps taking it out on me or projecting those concerns on to me. It's funny though - after he told me about the dream, he then told me that one of the things he loved about me was that I never take any crap from him - so I guess this was his way of acknowledging that he was in the wrong! Congrats on productive work efforts and I look forward to hearing more about the job search and plan! The book you're reading sound super interesting, but I can imagine it's tough to read in places. I concur entirely that nothing beats a great book! Currently half way through the latest instalment of the mystery series by my favourite author and I'm loving it (as always).

@Chase: I am happy to hear that all went well and that the scary possibilities have been ruled out, however I understand your frustrations/concerns at the screening turning up blank for solutions. Hopefully your consultant can make suggestions in your follow up.

It's been a relatively productive work week for which I'm grateful. Unfortunately after updating my Mac yesterday to the latest OS version, my dual screen monitors no longer work (grrrr) and after 3 hours on the phone to various engineers at Apple, I am none the better. But I am choosing to focus on the positive instead! I have one more client to see later this evening and then it's set to be a lovely sunny weekend ahead. I have my second last volunteering shift tomorrow morning and then I'll be horse-riding in the afternoon, which I'm really looking forward to. Sunday will hopefully be some yoga in the morning and then a relaxed day as next week is set to be INSANELY busy.

Hope everyone is doing OK out there and set for the weekend.
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I'm sorry nothing definitive was found but I'm glad it's not cancer or something like that Chase.

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Old 06-22-2018, 05:53 PM
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Hi friends. I am tired and grumpy today. I thought the 'cleanse' required for the procedure might help the gi symptoms, but it seems to have made it worse. Sorry, not much to say. I will have a proper catch up tomorrow, whether I feel like it or not.

Thank you all for the kind words and thoughts. You all keep me going when I just don't feel like it.
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Old 06-22-2018, 06:59 PM
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Chase, really don’t blame you for being in a foul mood about it all. Hope that if nothing else you can just sleep. And that it’s a little brighter in the light of day.

Palmer, loved the upbeat post this morning. I saw it at some point earlier either before or after I did yoga (this sounds far more glorious and strenuous than it was...but it was, well, some moving I suppose). I may check out the book. I have been reading kind of crappy recovery books. And the BB. I like the latter but omg did they have some old fashioned ideas about the role of the wife. It gets a tad hard to read in places. I try to take the good with the outdated but again, at times I just have to skim or read something else. all the recovery books I seem to be choosing lately are poorly written. I like memoirs for the most part and then the occasional self-help/recovery text thrown in. I think I need to just buy something new on Amazon.

NC, really nice to hear things got smoothed over with hubby — and that he at least tacitly acknowledged being in the wrong.

As for my hubby I’m completely annoyed (again). I came home and he was basically loaded. It really bothers me that a fair percentage of the time that I do extra kid duties he uses the freedom just to drink a lot. Of course even if I could find a way to talk to him about it now is not the time. Our son is around and since my husband is at least partially wasted he won’t be super receptive to it. Not that he would be if he were sober. I don’t know. I feel in a very complian-y mood. Which is stupid because with my daughter gone I have some real freedom. There’s so much I COULD be doing but I can’t even seem to talk myself into making a list of the things I should be doing.

Today at work the guy who couldn’t stop asking me about my non-drinking texted me a pic of all the bourbons he’s seeing/touring factories of in KY. Then a good buddy said in a meeting she was bummed that we couldn’t do happy hour because I quit drinking. To which I said, “but i’m Still funny and awesome!!” But then she said I was more fun with a few drinks. . Then I was dealing with sleepover transfer and long story short the other mom ordered some pizzas for her kids and there was a promo so she got 4 beers with her pizza and needed someone to drink beer (I declined). Then I come home and my husband is loaded and has a glass of white wine and partially full bottle of white wine sitting on the counter. It is, to say the least, quite annoying. I thought about trying to find an online meeting but fortunately or unfortunately for you all I just came on here to bitch.

I’m going to go to bed early and as usual hope things seem better tomorrow. And, to Palmer’s point I WILL be happily passing out sober to a book. Even if it’s a crappy book.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:07 AM
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Hi Class,

@Chase: I absolutely do not blame you for being in a crappy mood about all of this. I truly feel for you and I am genuinely sorry that you’re going through what you are. As @Numblady says, if nothing else, I hope a good night’s rest will at least ease the suffering and irritation a little. Thinking of you and sending positive thoughts.

@Numblady: Just..WOW. I am sending you a huge hug right now because that is a day just jam packed with curveballs and obstacles right there. Well done on making it through, and I’m so glad you DID come on here to vent. This space is an absolute blessing, just to have people to listen and share some compassion. Please vent away, we got ya! I’m truly sorry about Hubby and his drinking patterns. That’s seriously tough in such close proximity, especially when previously you probably would’ve been joining him (as I would have with my own hubby). Makes it that much harder as it stokes those embers and throws up such a harsh contrast at times. As for your colleague sending photos of the bourbon - I had my suspicions before, but now I’m almost certain he is dealing with his own issues around booze. There is simply no way a ‘normie’ woukd behave in this bizarre manner (and it is no excuse even for someone working through alcohol issues). In all honesty he just sounds like a bit of a selfish A-hole. How did you respond to the message?

I’m feeling a bit crappy at the moment (bloated and just fed up of carrying those extra pounds around), so I’ve decided to try and do a two week stint of relatively low carb eating to kick start a little shift of the spare tyre. Sobriety is my main focus, and if the eating plan proves too strenuous, I’ll ease up, but right now I feel not doing anything is starting to have more of a negative impact. I’ll keep y’all posted!

Just on the way home after my riding lesson and it is a beautiful sunshine-y day, so just basking in the gratitude of that right now.

Take care all!!
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I was going to say "morning all!" but it is 100% 1 p.m., at least where I am. I woke up at a decent time and got a few things done around the house, and now I have to get my kids ready for some trips they are taking. My husband and I have been bickering non-stop, I claim he has no patience and is super critical and overbearing. He claims that I try to avoid him all the time...which may be because I think he is super critical (that's my story and I'm sticking to it). I'm finding that I'm much more matter-of-fact now that I'm sober, and keep things on a mostly even keel, but we've been together for 20 years and definitely struggle at times. One good thing is, he can take or leave drinking, so I don't have to deal with that on top of everything.

Numblady, I would highly recommend this book. It is riveting, if a bit depressing, but the heroine is also funny, which helps.
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@Palmer: I’m really sorry that you’re going through it at the moment with your husband. I can’t imagine the added stress of the fire, displacement and moving and your husband’s health concerns have contributed to your relationship over recent months. I hope you’re hanging in there - we’re here for you!
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:22 PM
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Hi all. Another quick one. I almost forgot to check-in today. My daughter woke with a fever, so she has needed more attention than usual. Hopefully I don't get sick. 3 days of work this weekend, but only 2 days of travel. Lots to respond to and I will try to write a proper post tomorrow. In the meantime I am setting aside the self pity and making a deliberate return to gratitude. More to follow, tomorrow.
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HI everyone.

Chase, I think I should probably take a cue and set aside some self-pity too! Sorry about your daughter. And fingers crossed for you to stay healthy. It has to be extra hard with the GI issues. Although I guess even though it may not feel like it at the time it I surely better overall than if you were pounding a bunc of booze on top of it.

NC, sounds like you have a good plan for eating but also a good sense of when to maybe back it off. Thank you for being open to my venting

Palmer so sorry about the bickering. Dang I can relate. Doesn’t make it better/easier for you but well for what it’s worth! And I have been thinking quite a bit today and yesterday about how for me and probably for you and others sobriety comes with the opportunity to do all these things we never really had the ability to do because it interfered with drinking...but now just don’t give a flying fig about doing. Or maybe this is just me. But it’s weird for me that with what could be additional time for excursions with the kids or meetings or new productivity, I’m finding myself drawn to figuring out how to sit in a chair on the front porch and do nothing. Though I still have this weird phenomenon of when I finally do the kinds of relaxing things I always wished I could do in my head I feel kind of guilty. I dunno. This is a little different from being more direct but I guess for me it all relates to taking what we need to be healthy. I have thought about this quite a bit because part of sobriety/recovery seems like showing grace towards others and not getting mad and resentful. But also part of it seems like sticking up for ourselves and being more vocal about what we need. At least this is my interior monologue. I still suck at it. Last night I could have gone to the grocery store or I could have gone to a meeting. I picked the former. I probably should have picked the latter.

All in all it’s been a pretty good day. My daughter was on a sleepover last night and without being mean to her I have to say wow! It was pretty smooth sailing without the two kids being together and at each other’s throats and without her kind of being with me in a very in-your-space kind of way. Mostly sweet but literally I routinely have to ask her for the space to use my arms and hands. So this morning I was able to do a little HIIT workout, work in the yard for almost two hours, and then work for a while.

Kids just jumped in bed with me. Bye!
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Hey all! Busy day here, with birthday parties and sleepaway camp prep, plus all the usual stuff of organizing for the work week and making sure I do at least a drive-by with my various family members. Plus, I just remembered that my husband invited some of his family to come and spend the night. In a rental, where we have neither extra beds nor a kitchen table. SERENITY NOW!

Numblady, I can totally relate to your only-one-kid enjoyment. It feels so much easier to be able to focus on one, especially if the one who leaves is the needier one. And thanks for commiserating with me on the husband thing, it is easily the most stressful part of my recovery. I absolutely hate having tension in the house.

NC, I love your comment about basking in gratitude, and be sure to take it easy on your alleged spare tire! I was at a restaurant yesterday where I normally order a lower-carb salad, and was like @#$% it, I'm getting fries, and it was awesome.

Chase, I really hope you're feeling better!

I'll try to check in as much as I can today. Wish me luck on not killing anyone!
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Hi friends.

At work today, but I have a few minutes.

Newchapter, it sounds like your husband realized he was wrong in the way he treated you. It may not have been an outright apology but it definitely sounds like a second hand acknowledgement of guilt and sorrow. Sorry about the computer troubles. Dealing with tech support it is an exercise in patience. Hopefully you get it worked out. Your diet plan seems well considered. Don't be afraid to give yourself a few treats here and there. Overall it makes it easier to stick with the healthy eating.

Numblady, I don't know how you deal with your husband's drinking and continue to maintain your own sobriety. That must be very difficult, but maybe it offers a glimpse of what you were like when you were drinking. I will reiterate what has already been said about your corne colleagues wayward comments regarding you not drinking: it is a reflection of them and not you. The cometar colleague who commented that you were more fun after a couple drinks was, in my opinion, saying you are more fun after she has had a couple of drinks, and doesn't want to feel awkward pounding them back when you are not.

Palmer, sorry you are having issues at home. It seems the immense stress of the fire, hotel living, and now moving into the smaller rental house is taking a toll on everyone. I hope you ate finding some time for yourself.

I am feeling a bit better today. Part of it was working back to a normal diet after 36 hours of fasting. Although, it is not really a normal diet, rather a normal calorie intake. Until the follow-up appointment I am restricting my diet to chicken breast, rice, and steamed vegetables, among a few other things as this seems to be well tolerated. As I said earlier, I am jumping back into deliberate gratitude. This should have a profound effect on my mood, n general. More later.
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I think I need to try some of that deliberate gratitude!

Starting tomorrow !

Seriously though hi to all and hopefully I can do a better catch-up tomorrow. Been a long day and a very rough night again with my daughter (it’s still not over). That and the 55 mile bike ride without sun screen in the hot TX sun. Oh yeah and having at various points 6 extra kids (though four were just for like twenty minutes) in the yard and house has sucked the life out of me. All I seem to be able to do is lurk.

I am thinking of you guys. Had more to say though I’ve already forgotten it and am too tired to write in anyway. maybe tomorrow! Sleep tight buddies.
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Ps I am very pro sunscreen. I just completely spaced and was already en route and late to bike shop before I realized it!

PPS Don’t feel like I was too terribly hard at it today. I did take two separate naps. No lie.
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Hi all, checking in a little late this morning because I woke up VERY early and made it into the office without checking in here. I was also up late because our guests didn't arrive until about 10:30, and then I had a restless night's sleep...then everyone was up and about bright and early this morning. Zzzzzz. Even though I was really stressed last night, it's fine to have them here as long as they are mainly self-sufficient. We actually have a big house with tons of room, but very minimal furniture, no extra sheets and towels, etc. All the things that are probably of little consequence to anyone but me, but there it is. Luckily, my husband is being supportive today and that does help a lot.

Numblady, I love that you took 2 naps, but I'm sure you desperately needed them based on your workout schedule!!! Honestly, I don't know how you find time for all of these long bike rides, not to mention the stamina it must take!

Chase, I'm glad you're feeling a little better, even if it requires a super-bland diet. What's the next step in terms of follow-up?

I'll be dozing at my desk today, but definitely checking in as much as I can! I hope everyone has a great day.
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