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Old 10-22-2015, 05:34 AM
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Good morning to day 5! Welcome to Nowme, JL and Gerd...you guys are doing great so far!
Midton, that sounds like a tough situation. I think driving is a great idea, and what a great feeling that you will be able to safely drive home! And sounds like your group will be sippers instead of guzzlers, hopefully no pressure will help.
Juno, it does sound like a stressful day. You have done an amazing job so far. It is not easy getting kids everywhere they need to be as well as your own work. Remember how far you've come and how much better you feel!
On a more petty note, I had hoped that removing all of the calories of alcohol would help start to get rid of some of the pounds I had recently put on as my drinking, and therefore eating habits, got really bad. So far, nothing! And I've been active every day. I am not going to let that get me down, and I am also not going to "diet" (I also rarely eat junk food, and still haven't been). I just want to get a bit more into my sobriety before I start thinking about limiting my calories to lose weight. So, very small in the big scope of things, but something that has gotten me a bit down.
Have a great day everyone! I really am so grateful for this thread and for all of you posting here.
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Juno11 View Post
Good morning - day 12 here. GerdMuller - welcome! We have the same sober date. Also welcome to looking4awagon and nowme. Nice to see the group growing and thriving.

I'm doing well but Thursdays are a bit taxing for me. I have to get all 3 of my kids off to school all by myself then get to work myself, then a psychiatrist appt. for my daughter after work. I have been known to cave under this type of pressure before with drinking. Also, Thursdays have been a tough day for me. But I'm doing well and just have to resort to other strategies if those feelings come up. Great day to all!
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I'm sure drinking because of the pressure didn't help, or made things worse. Take it easy on yourself. Nothing has to be perfect. Let go of what you can't have any influence over. Especially teenage kids Hang in there!
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Needachangenow View Post
Good morning to day 5!
On a more petty note, I had hoped that removing all of the calories of alcohol would help start to get rid of some of the pounds I had recently put on as my drinking, and therefore eating habits, got really bad. So far, nothing! And I've been active every day. I am not going to let that get me down, and I am also not going to "diet" (I also rarely eat junk food, and still haven't been). I just want to get a bit more into my sobriety before I start thinking about limiting my calories to lose weight. So, very small in the big scope of things, but something that has gotten me a bit down.
Have a great day everyone! I really am so grateful for this thread and for all of you posting here.
I don't feel this is petty at all!! I totally understand how you feel; I'm wanting to lose the 15 pounds that I've put on with drinking. I keep thinking that cutting out at least 600 calories a day will have an effect, and I admit I'll be disappointed if it doesn't.
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Midton I waited a while before I allowed myself to go around places like that. I've been to a few parties in the last 90 days and I was nervous. I had an escape plan, I had a plan, period. Have a way to get out. Don't give yourself the opportunity to give in. I still find that I can handle it in small doses, but after a while it all starts getting nerve wracking. It may be because my AV is trying to stir up, but I always have a plan to shut it all down.
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Originally Posted by Needachangenow View Post
Good morning to day 5! Welcome to Nowme, JL and Gerd...you guys are doing great so far!
Midton, that sounds like a tough situation. I think driving is a great idea, and what a great feeling that you will be able to safely drive home! And sounds like your group will be sippers instead of guzzlers, hopefully no pressure will help.
Juno, it does sound like a stressful day. You have done an amazing job so far. It is not easy getting kids everywhere they need to be as well as your own work. Remember how far you've come and how much better you feel!
On a more petty note, I had hoped that removing all of the calories of alcohol would help start to get rid of some of the pounds I had recently put on as my drinking, and therefore eating habits, got really bad. So far, nothing! And I've been active every day. I am not going to let that get me down, and I am also not going to "diet" (I also rarely eat junk food, and still haven't been). I just want to get a bit more into my sobriety before I start thinking about limiting my calories to lose weight. So, very small in the big scope of things, but something that has gotten me a bit down.
Have a great day everyone! I really am so grateful for this thread and for all of you posting here.
Hi Needachange
I'm always hoping for weight loss after quitting too. Usually I do lose some water weight, and definitely start feeling better, but that levels off. I've started a ketogenic diet and have lost 3 lbs in 10 days....of course I'm sure most of that is water but I'll take it. Its very easy to stick too (I don't eat refined/processed food anyway) and I don't have to watch calories very closely, although they of course count. For me food is really about 80% of the equation with respect to controlling my weight. Exercise, while very important and a daily thing for me, is more about muscle tone, my heart and peace of mind. It really doesn't change the scale much. I only have 8-10 lbs to lose so suspect the weight will drop off very slowly. But I'm in now hurry. I also think it took my metabolism about 30 days to start functioning better. Just takes time and patience.
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Now...I got caught up on you guys!
Welcome Gerd Muller! And to any other new people here but not posting.
Hiya Frick and Dobie! Hope you're well today!
Congrats for
JL day 3! Keep going! I believe in you!
Looking4 day 4! Stay strong, you can do this!
Nowme day 2, get a better plan...stronger than the one you had. Reading how your old plan is not working, just some thoughts.
Juno day 12 Yay! High five!
NACN day 5...Hang in there! You're doing great! I was told in the first 30 days the main concern should be to not drink. Working on things can come after that. It is enough to just not drink. I allowed myself to have a few indulgences because I have treated myself so terribly for soo long I felt like for a little bit I deserved a little pampering. I have lost weight and I don't diet. I don't over do it, I indulge once in a while, but I don't diet. Just my thoughts. Allow yourself time to heal.
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Hiya Grizzly...sorry I missed you..(I don't want no one to feel left out or looked over, I hate that)
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Hi Needachange
I'm always hoping for weight loss after quitting too. Usually I do lose some water weight, and definitely start feeling better, but that levels off. I've started a ketogenic diet and have lost 3 lbs in 10 days....of course I'm sure most of that is water but I'll take it. Its very easy to stick too (I don't eat refined/processed food anyway) and I don't have to watch calories very closely, although they of course count. For me food is really about 80% of the equation with respect to controlling my weight. Exercise, while very important and a daily thing for me, is more about muscle tone, my heart and peace of mind. It really doesn't change the scale much. I only have 8-10 lbs to lose so suspect the weight will drop off very slowly. But I'm in now hurry. I also think it took my metabolism about 30 days to start functioning better. Just takes time and patience.
Thank you Frickaflip! I also really only have about 8-10 to lose, so it's not a dire situation. I usually don't let myself get to the point I am now, so that freaks me out just a bit! I teach acting and I am an actor, so it is important for me to keep in shape, as a job requirement of sorts as well. But I know that I should just let it go and know that once I get into the non-drinking habit, I can work on losing the weight. My big indulgence is frozen yogurt, not exactly going crazy lol! I just have to be patient, and happy that here at day 5 I have been sober for longer than I have in a long long time.
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Hello!

Wish I had more time to spend talking to all of you. But, I have been so busy catching up on life after having not lived it for the past few years.

Anyway, made plans to meet a friend and go bike riding today. She didn't show up so I just went by myself and had a wonderful time anyway!

Until this past week, I could not make plans because I knew they would interfere with my drinking. Now I can plan away, and even if they don't go as expected, I can still have a grand time.

Congratulations, everyone, on your successes, and for just being here no matter what.

Off to a new job!

Bye for now.
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I'm up at 3:30 but slept well and feel refreshed. I did have a drinking dream, one where I could actually taste and smell the tannins of the wine. I raised the glass to my mouth then pushed it away as I didn't want to go back to day one. It is so much easier for me to continue with sobriety than to start being sober. Some people manage to go on the wagon right after drinking, it takes me a few months.

Weight loss. I've always exercised hard and eaten pretty well but year by year the pounds have slowly accumulated. I still buy 32 inch waist trousers same as in high school but my body composition has changed and I have more fat.

In the summer I spent 3 weeks in my home country binging on both drink and food. I bought some relatively expensive trousers while I was there too. On coming back and getting into my exercise regime I discovered I couldn't even remotely get into my new trousers. I weighed myself and found I was 84.4kg, the highest I have ever been. I immediately cut out all processed food, bread, pasta, my beloved pizza and restricted my fruit intake. It was a couple of weeks of this that let me to trying to get sober again.

Now almost 7 weeks later (tomorrow, Saturday, will be day 49) I have certainly lost a lot of fat and am wearing trousers from years ago. My body composition is beginning to resemble a younger man. I haven't weighed myself but that's not really important. I look and feel trim. I like Zara extra-slim t-shirts and usually buy an L size. When I was 2 weeks into my sobriety I bought 2 M size t-shirts , tomorrow I will wear one of them for the first time.

My fat loss was fast in the initial 2 weeks then stalled a little. Now it seems to be moving along slowly but surely. As a vain person, sadly and with little reason, the aesthetic improvements of sobriety are a great motivator. Be patient as it is baby steps though.
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Day 6 heading to another session this evening. So far so good, the cravings are minimal and I am REALLY enjoying waking up in the morning. Even if I am tired, the novelty of not being hungover and withdrawing has been just exhilarating!

Looking forward to Halloween next weekend with my son, for the first time in a LONG time I am going to dress up and go out on the streets with him!
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Wow.
Day 3 and I'm already trying to talk myself into a beer. I don't even drink beer, much. I'm a vodka binger, so 3-4 days is no feat. My thing is not posting when craving. Whatever I post will be crazy probably as my minds racing around.
Man this sucks.
I feel so bad the first 3 days after even moderate drinking. It's getting so about Nows when I drop off the map for a few days.
I'm off work in a hr. Gotta get home and knock myself out with some sleep aid or something.
Just not to drink--- read that earlier today
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Wow.
Day 3 and I'm already trying to talk myself into a beer. I don't even drink beer, much. I'm a vodka binger, so 3-4 days is no feat. My thing is not posting when craving. Whatever I post will be crazy probably as my minds racing around.
Man this sucks.
I feel so bad the first 3 days after even moderate drinking. It's getting so about Nows when I drop off the map for a few days.
I'm off work in a hr. Gotta get home and knock myself out with some sleep aid or something.
Just not to drink--- read that earlier today
Hey JL, stay strong. I'm on Day 10 and running into my first craving today. For me, the best way to get past them is to go immediately do something a little different. I need to make sure I'm nowhere near any of the places or doing any of the things I associate with drinking. Otherwise, I'll end up basically obsessing about it to the point that I'll definitely talk myself into just one drink. Then the doors fly open and it's back to problem drinking within a couple weeks.

You can stay away from alcohol today. And I bet you can do it tomorrow too Keep it up.
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Not drinking a gotta be better than withdrawal for days. I'm still in that I guess. Just feel better than miserable like last 2 days.
Don't even know what I'm saying lol
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Welcome to all the new people!!

So um, I have a family birthday thing to go to in an hour or so.... one of my relatives sent a pic of the house (decorations and such), and in it there were like 4 or 5 bottles of red wine, half of them the huge size. Now I'm worried. I know it was my one relatives idea...I think this person is starting to want to drink more and more...so I was with them when they seemed insistent that we had alcohol at this dinner. But then I forgot all about it.....I didn't know how serious they were about it...now..... this sucks!!

My family generally are still not big drinkers. But that just means that in this case, there would be more sitting around for me and no one would care. But. I just have to not drink. That's all. There will be a couple others there who don't drink for various reasons. I will be one of them now. Ugh, ugh.....I have to remember why I'm making this decision.
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I've lost 4 lbs in the month I've been sober, which is a very small amount considering how big I've gotten from drinking. I have 18 lbs I need to lose to be within a medically healthy weight range, and 43 lbs I'd like to lose, so 4 lbs is depressingly low considering I've been paying a ton of attention to what and how much I eat, and I've been working out daily.

I think men lose weight a whole lot easier when they quit drinking than do women, for whatever reason. All those threads about "Oh wow, fat is coming off me now I'm sober!" are by men, and men chime in to say it happened to them too, and women lament that it did not happen to them, it seems to me.

At the rate I'm going, I won't be the weight I want to be for almost a year, at the earliest :/ But I'm not going to go on any crash diet, so this is how it's gonna be.

I know this sounds shallow, but this is more about health than looks for me ... My joints hurt, and I know it's because I'm overweight. I'm not young, but I do feel I'm too young to be having freaking joint pain. Plus there's all the studies linking being overweight to so many medical conditions ... I would never have let myself become overweight while sober. I literally let all things slide when I'm drinking.

Ugh.

On another note, I've been having this fun thought.

Whenever I have a thought that includes the words "drinking," or "drink," or something like that, I substitute "being a gullible idiot."

So I have the thought: "I wonder if it would be nice to have some beers this Saturday night."

And then I deliberately follow it up with: "I wonder if it would be nice to be a gullible idiot this Saturday night."

When are you going to say "Yes" to "Should I be a gullible idiot?" Never. That's when.

And the answer to the substitute question is always the real answer to the original question, so ... it works quite well.

Because for me, drinking is being a gullible idiot. It's the world--cultural convention, liquor companies, the way I was raised--that have programmed me to believe that drinking is one thing, when in fact it is another. And I pride myself on not buying into BS.

So. That's my new game. :p
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It's good to have a escape plan Layali. And maybe run through a few likely scenarios?

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At the rate I'm going, I won't be the weight I want to be for almost a year, at the earliest :/ But I'm not going to go on any crash diet, so this is how it's gonna be.


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Paraphrasing Confucious "the longest of journeys start with a single step". So you have to start to finish, go through to achieve. Personally I'm not the best or most patient at building up the momentum in the early days.
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On the subject of weight, I'd like to lose 5-7 pounds. I was actually lighter when I was drinking more! When I drink more, I eat less and whatever I do eat doesn't stay down. When I'm not drinking, I tend to gain. So yea, I do want to drop a few pounds and figure more regular exercise is the very first logical step toward that goal.

I have had big time wine cravings tonight. Nothing in particular really triggered them. Just life. And that it's Thursday. And that I haven't had wine in a long time. Ugh. I started getting mad that I can never drink again and it depressed me. I know I'll be happy I didn't drink tomorrow. But I guess we all have these moments. I guess that was my AV getting mad tonight. Day 12 - successful because I ate dinner and have my sweats on and not going out again.
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