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Old 09-14-2015, 04:12 AM
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(((Marher))) I am so proud of you for being so vigilant with your health! I too believe it will be either nothing or something minor - but I know how scary it is not knowing! Praying for you and thank you for coming here and sharing with us.
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:30 AM
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Kenny I am so proud of you!

I'm up much too late because I am a political junkie and there was a long time this arvo/tonight when we didn't know if the Prime Minister would be spilled, and he was.

I went to the GP this morning and am booked in to Breast Screening early Weds afternoon my time, I'll know the result Friday or Monday.

We it was lovely to knit "up your head" tonight while the political machinations went on.

PS I should add for our American friends that a PM spill does not mean a change of government, just a change of leader.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:43 AM
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Buddddd, that's awesome and freeing! So now can you fit everything in buddtruck? Congrats on the honor, it's amazing and clearly you are making a difference.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:48 AM
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Toots, sorry about your tooth! I hope you go to a good dentist! I hope Scottish dentists are better than British ones. I'd like to smack the guy who gave my mother in law her caps. They're too big and make her slur like she's got ill fitting dentures.

Yeah we know no house will tick all the boxes. We were very surprised to see this house and how amazing it is! But the more I think about it, the more I know that commute will really get to me and cause resentment. J let it go before I could, because she saw that. I offered to drive there again after work with a different route cause I knew how much she loved the place. She told me not to. Think I'll marry that girl.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:52 AM
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He marcher you're up late! Glad you got an appointment, I'll be sending you good boobie vibes. Sorry if that's not a good word to you, but who doesn't love boobies, really?

I've heard that pm was a real pain. Any word on the new one? Same stuff different guy?
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Old 09-14-2015, 04:13 PM
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Good morning everyone It's going to be hot hot hot today then we'll get a big freezing cold change, just the sort of day not to come to Paradise.

We, the new PM is more personable than the previous one and he does have some good ideas but it's like all politics, the individual has to toe the party line so who knows how he will go.

On a brighter note it's nearly time to start Trachy's hat!

Have a good day all.
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:05 PM
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Oh Good! Cold head days are coming!
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This is really long and more rambly than my norm. Please excuse that. I tried to start a thread in newcomers but still can't for some reason.

Before I paste it and get all deep,I want to thank magical marcher for the knitting, I meant to do that this morning!

Ok here goes:
I almost titled the thread, "this disease sucks!"

I am very very grateful to be in recovery. I feel very strongly that I have been given a second chance at life. I had to work really hard to get here, become willing to do things I never wanted to do. I had to jump out of my comfort zone. I had to e willing to do ANYTHING to get and stay sober. It's been ridiculously worth it.

All throughout my journey, I've had an alcoholic neighbor next door. He was a teen when I met him, we don't have a lot in common so I just smile and go in when I see him. I used to be embarrassed to be like him. "Nobody" knew I was an alcoholic, so I sure as heck didn't tell him about that. He sobered up a few years ago after a stint in jail. I remember being jealous. Because I was still drinking and "nobody knew," so I couldn't talk to him about it.

Well he was in and out of sobriety, rehab, jail. Somewhere in there I sobered up myself. I started aa, but made sure to not attend meetings near him. I was embarrassed. I did the steps. At some point, my sponsor told me it was time to become a sponsor myself.

My first thought was C. Only Cdoesn't want a sponsor. And if he did, I realized he's more than I can handle. He needs someone who can cart his ass to meetings. Someone who's sponsored a ton of guys. I also think he needs a man. A man who can be his role model. I'm not the guy. Well, I'm not any guy, I'm a gal...

When c is sober, we give him odd jobs. we pay his mom and she doles out the money for cigarettes or whatever he wants that isn't booze. When he's drinking, he doesn't show up or he rings the doorbell at midnight. We have set some pretty clear boundaries over the years, which he respects for the most part.

Over the years, he's been to rehab, jail, hospital, you name it. He has enough of a mental issue to be on disability, but I don't know to what extent. This spring he came to talk when I was doing yard work, and we had a good long talk about alcoholism, sobriety, aa, life and everything. I told him I think he's a good guy and he can have a good life sober. He could learn to drive, get a job, move out. He seemed optimistic, but still justified his drinking.

I didn't try to ask the impossible, like pour out his stash. I asked him to get out his big book and put it by the bed that night so he would see it in the morning.

He still drank. I wasnt surprised, but I still hoped and prayed for him
.The saying, "never have we seen someone fail who has thoroughly followed our path" comes to mind. The part where they say anyone can recover, unless they are extensively mentally Ill or incapable of rigorous honesty.

I don't know which is the case right now, but c is very far down the scale at this point. His quacking is beyond control. It's basically "I'm a dead man anyhow, might as well drink myself there." He's 28, 30 tops! His mom won't let him in the house if he's extremely drunk, because he gets very belligerent and a little violent. We found out he's been sleeping on our porch. I know he slept there last night, I had to clean up the mess.

We are at a total loss for what to do. He's at the point he very well can drink himself to death. My partner wanted to let him stay with us last night. Me, the household alkie, I'm the one who said no! He's a good guy. But this disease makes us crazy. It makes him crazy and a little violent. I felt like a total jerk.

This morning, I called our local aa chapter. They said what I suspected: he hasn't found his bottom yet. She told us under no circumstances to let him on the house. She said if we wanted to do anything , pray for his safety. That's why I'm writing g this long, ramble of a message (sorry about that): please pray for c. If you don't pray, that's cool, but could you send him a good vibe or two?

C could be me, you, anyone on this site really. I pray he stay safe until he's ready. The aa lady said not to pray for his recovery, because we don't know his path. But I'm gonna pray for his safety until his path leads him to find his truth and his peace.

Thanks for listening
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:59 PM
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You're not a jerk wehav

I'm a heckuva good guy but I wouldn't have wanted me as a house guest in those darkest soulless days.

I hope C will find his way like you and I and everyone else here did.
Prayers out for the guy
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:49 AM
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Just said a prayer for C. You made the right decision.
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:58 AM
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We that's very sad about C but I think the AA people are right, you can't have him in the house at this stage.
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We I will be sending good vibes. You can't fix C all you can do is offer what humanity you can without endangering yourself and yours and hope he finds a peace.
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A few years ago, I was C. You wouldn't have wanted me in the house when I was in the grasp.
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Thanks guys. I know, but it helps to know you are sending good thoughts. I want everybody like us to know there's a solution.

My mom paid with her life, it sucks to know people like us do that every day.
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WeHav, good thoughts from me also!
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Good morning Marchers from a lovely day in Paradise.

Like We I had an experience with someone yesterday where I wanted him to know what we now know. Gosh I sound like an evangelist.

On Monday the husband of a young friend of mine was arrested by the police while having a break in Sydney. This young man has never been in trouble with the law as far as I know but he was held overnight, then taken by ambulance to hospital. A combination of a large amount of alcohol and recreational drugs had him hallucinating, acting psychotically etc. She is in a small town interstate running their business frantically trying to get someone to take over so I went up yesterday on her behalf to speak to doctors and to see him in Emergency. This was weird because he and I haven't met before though we knew of each other.

Of course the doctors revealed nothing to me (she had arranged permission for me to go to the ER) but from the little they said I could see that it looks likely he will be placed in the mental health unit.

This was meant to be him having three days away from their seven day a week business. I can see that he's on the edge -- it will be one way or the other but yesterday was not the time or place for me to say anything.

In time maybe, but not now.

Have a good and safe day peeps.
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Wow marcher, that's sad. You are a very good friend.

I'll add that young man to my prayer list.
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Sounds like the pressure of work may have caused him to snap Marcher?? Poor guy & his wife. Thinking of them and glad they have you in their corner
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Prayers for that young man Marcher.

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Thanks Dee, We and Toots. Toots the business is seven days but the work is usually well within the bounds of reasonable and there is some assistance. No, I think it's more that he was experimenting, I have since learned that he is also on prescribed medication so adding to the mix would not be good.

ETA Mammogram was this arvo, results will be Friday or Monday, I have been advised not to panic if called back.
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