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Old 07-15-2015, 12:42 PM
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((hugs)), plath. You can do this.
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Wishing you all restoration to health xx
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Old 07-15-2015, 12:50 PM
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Also, one thing I should probably be concerned by is that it doesn't feel like a big deal. It's the same AV that's always there when I stop, and then start back up again. "It's not that big of a deal, you don't have to do it every day, it's fine."
I need to remind myself that I DO end up drinking every night, I might have evenings where I don't drink an entire bottle, but that doesn't mean that I'm not an alcoholic. I drink even when I don't feel like drinking some nights, and that's just not the way non-alcoholic people do things.

Note to self: Come back and read this a few times throughout the day.
- Plath , is there such a thing as a non alcoholic person. I really don't know if there's that many. Do you think people that don't drink just never started?
I'm just guessing but have "social drinkers" just not crossed the mark yet, (aside from whatever high,high percentage of people in denial).
I may be wrong, but I really just don't know a lot of people who don't drink. Church, no church,enlightened, whatever. Maybe I'm missing it.
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Old 07-15-2015, 12:58 PM
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11 days under my belt and working towards day 12! I am feeling stronger each day, eating healthier, and I feel like I am able to catch my negative self-talk better than I did back when I was sober for 72 days. This may have taken a second time around to start getting things right but the 3+ more months of moderation leading me right back to where I was in November at my first attempt quitting, made me see where the tape finishes. I will continue to play the tape all the way through to the end now when I go back to my job and the urge to pick up arises. I see where it leads and it is a path to no where that I would ever want to be again. If I was able to get divorced, move across the country, start and my finish my Bachelor's Degree, have the start of a 3 year career beginning again, raise my son on my own in the last 7 1/2 years all while being a drunk... the possibilities are endless on where my life could take me sober! I am feeling optimistic!
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Old 07-15-2015, 01:14 PM
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Hi everyone, end of day 7 now. A bit hectic but doable,

I am too tired to read the other posts, will do tomorrow
This weekend and next week a lot of socialising planned that I just cannot escape from (work -related). Today I had a juice whilst others had GT's (good for me , I dislike gin).
Let's see how it goes.
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Old 07-15-2015, 01:35 PM
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Old 07-15-2015, 01:54 PM
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Day 2 of my IOP for substance abuse (alcohol) in the books...trying to keep an open and optimistic mind on this process, still not convinced this is an answer for me personally. Today is day 13 of alcohol abstinence.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:31 PM
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- Plath , is there such a thing as a non alcoholic person. I really don't know if there's that many. Do you think people that don't drink just never started?
I'm just guessing but have "social drinkers" just not crossed the mark yet, (aside from whatever high,high percentage of people in denial).
I may be wrong, but I really just don't know a lot of people who don't drink. Church, no church,enlightened, whatever. Maybe I'm missing it.
I didn't know a lot of people who didn't drink either JL but trust me there's tons of them -and even more of them who start a drink and never finish it..

when I live in a forest all I saw was trees, y'know?

As my life changed more and more new people came into it - healthy positive non addicted people.

Welcome sourgrapes - and welcome back Plath...and you're right it is a big deal - but I have faith that you'll regroup, tweak your plan, and beat this

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Old 07-15-2015, 02:44 PM
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Day 3 beckons, and my head is feeling a little clearer. I find these posts really helpful. I'm so used to alcohol-induced sleep, that I find I wake at around 3, and find it really difficult to go back to sleep. I'm upping my physical exercise, and just trying to keep busy. Hopefully, I will sleep better tonight
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Hi all i am back and am on day on...well will be at midnight anyway officially! Will keep popping in and reporting.

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Old 07-15-2015, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bunnymen1 View Post
Day 3 beckons, and my head is feeling a little clearer. I find these posts really helpful. I'm so used to alcohol-induced sleep, that I find I wake at around 3, and find it really difficult to go back to sleep. I'm upping my physical exercise, and just trying to keep busy. Hopefully, I will sleep better tonight
Right there with you Bunnymen. Im wondering if getting up and doing things at 3 am helps rather than trying to calm and get back to sleep? Might try that.experiment.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:17 PM
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:48 PM
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Hi all Wow there is a lot to take in on this thread it's very active...!

So to all... sorry for being lazy. My brain can only handle so much right now but I do wish everyone here well and congrats on everyone's sober time

As I taper off benzos as well, another decrease this week. I am trying to go a tad faster, cutting back every ten days as opposed to 2 weeks. I want this s*** out of my system and if it means a walk through hell, well I have been there done that. I just want to be free. Had a brisk 30 minute walk, then a short slow walk with my boyfriend and was tired, heart rate up and a little breathless afterwards. I certainly hope that improves as my walks and a little cardio are essential to my mental well being. I made myself get up and do it even though I didn't want to.
Ate my veggies, more later... took calcium and vitamin D. Laid another piece down for my Sober House.
BTW does anyone want to join me on that project? It's really delightful and truly makes me happy I would love to have fellow builders and share that experience

And Legos come in such pretty colors now! All kinds of variety from the basics back when I was a kid.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:05 PM
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I'd like to jump in the July class with you guys! Anxiety from my weekend fiasco is fading and I feel better today. Still 100% happy with the idea of neverrrr having a drink again.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:15 PM
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Morning folks, day 6 here.

Sleep deprivation is the main issue for me now. Still nodding off around 2 am and waking around 5.30. At some point this will normalise but I could do with it being sooner rather than later.

Went out for a burger with a couple of friends last night and by rights I should be on day one now. It turned out we went for food at a pub that sells strong real ales that are brewed in-house. Next to cider, it doesn't get much better for me. Also it was a more of a group of us than 3. So instead of it being a quick burger it turned into a session of slurred words and staggering. I got a fair bit of pier pressure to drink but nothing too unsporting. Mainly they were just joking about how I'm trying to lose weight so I can fit into my prom dress. I never touched on the alcoholic thing.

I'm still not sure what happened. I ordered a soda water before anyone could order me a pint and that was it. No thinking that I'll just have the one and also no real desire for a drink. This is a first for me in a very very long time. I have to admit that had I known the night would go in the drunken direction it took (for my friends), I wouldn't have gone but I'm really glad I did. Watching them drunk (none have a drink issue that I can see and I'd know) was also very amusing.

I'm pretty sure that what is making the difference this time is that I'm reading this forum. I can't see what else could have kept me from drinking last night. During other attempts, I just did it by myself which didn't hammer home the fact that I cannot even have one.

So, I can go out sober and enjoy it. I just need to learn how to sleep sober and then learn how to live sober.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:57 PM
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Hi julyers!! I'm from the feb/march 2013 class, but I'd like to say hello and let you know that whatever it is you have to do to stay sober, whatever lengths you have to go to--- it's all COMPLETELY worth it!

Cravings suck? Worth it. Feeling anxious? It will get better. Gotta miss a few parties/get togethers because of temptation? Worth it! Might lose a few friends 'cause they want you to drink with them? Double worth it! The real friends will get used to sober you. Most will like you better! The ones who fade away were really just drinking "friends." Yes, your circle might get a little smaller before you branch out and meet awesome, new friends. If you stick with this, come heck or high water, your life will improve in every way.

I meant to just pop in and say hello to my good sober buddy hitrockbottom, and all that stuff came out! I'm leaving it 'cause it's true. Put in the time, make and stick to a good plan, stay sober and your life and health will improve.

Congrats on 9/10 days rock!!
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:17 PM
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Thanks for that great message wehav

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Old 07-15-2015, 05:20 PM
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Whew, sore from working out and being old !
Feeling ok though. Better than stressed. This exhaustion/ but no stress is new to me. Been WAYYY too long. Thanks for the view Plath. Going to see counselor tomorrow eve after work. Maybe I can afford to keep going. Shouldn't be an issue if I abstain and use booze money ! I just thought of that. This birthday feels like a wind of change may be starting. It's so different. God bless all of us. Were all struggling, but all in the right direction. Snack to negate the positive workout effect (lol), then hitting the sack. I love my kids. I hope I can hold on to this and be a good daddy to them and husband to my wife.prayers and amen.
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Is it too late to join the sober July thread? I'm only two days in
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Old 07-15-2015, 05:42 PM
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:07 PM
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Welcome Charlie. Finishing up sober day 12 tonight. My stress level has been increasing and previously that was the hook that my AV used to convince me that I'm "happier" drunk than sober. Even though I knew it was a lie the threshold was lowered just enough to suspend disbelief and....well drink.

But its different now. The above, that's short-term thinking. I know I'll feel better if I just stick it out, keep using my tools, and let some sober time pass.

Me and my boys go to the beach on Sunday for a week. The beach is a big trigger. I'll be on here checking in and working my tools during my danger zone.
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