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Old 07-08-2015, 06:59 AM
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Casey, 61 days is awesome! I just got a new bike myself and plan to ride early morning or evening before the sunset--the only bearable times to ride this time of year.

4theKids, I don't know anything about the drugs, but I know swimming, bike riding and sunshine help me when I'm anxious. Chamomile tea (sometimes with lavender) helps, too, but I know people react differently to these things.

I've had to reassess my mindset to stay sober, and I've decided to do AVRT full throttle. It's in the secular section, but it goes really well with my faith. I've read the Rational Recovery book years ago, then gave it away to the local library. Right now, I'm reading all the old Terminally Unique posts, and plan to actually read through those threads from years ago. I'm more ready now to make that Big Plan than I ever was, basically because I can't go on like I have been. I've learned so much from so many at SR which I'm very grateful for.
Hope you all have a lovely day!
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And hi, Allie, nmd and Site! Thank you for your nice welcome.
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Starting day 62 now. Did not sleep good last night. Just couldn't fall asleep even though I was very tired. Think I finally fell asleep around three in the morning. Trying to get motivated to get moving this morning as I want to go to a noon AA meeting. I'm off work today so no other plans to speak of. Also off tomorrow. I need to do laundry at some point--that point will more than likely be tomorrow. In fact, I know it will be tomorrow.

4thekidz -- I haven't experienced much in the way of PAWS this time, as far as I can tell, and I've very seldom put together enough continuous sobriety time in the past to know if what I was feeling was post acute withdrawal symptoms or was just plain old fashioned crazy addiction talk and self-justification. Have you talked with your doctor about your being uncomfortable with how these drugs are making you feel? I don't know anything about various psychiatric drugs but there has to be some drug out there that would help but doesn't give you that feeling.

I do also know that the vast majority of people I've talked to with longer term sobriety all mention that three months seems to be a bit of a magic number (I hate to use that term but can't think of anything better) when a lot of good mental and physical changes occur. For whatever that is worth. We're both well on our way to the mark.

I'm glad you're staying sober regardless and proud of you for seeking help.

AllieK -- have a good day at work.

KaleGrrl -- so glad you made it back in here.

Hope everyone has a happy and sober Wednesday! And remember you don't have to take that first drink no matter what.
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Originally Posted by 4thekidz View Post
Hello, I am enjoying everyone's posts even if I don't comment a lot.

The problem with taking a benzodiazepine like xanax or valium is that, in an attempt to ameliorate and minimize the symptoms of Post Alcohol Withdrawal Syndrome ("PAWS"), they to a certain degree mimic the feelings of intoxication- mild euphoria and relaxation mainly. But I think they may just be prolonging the long-term detox symptoms.

They say PAWS can drag on for months up to TWO years, which I hope I am on the shorter end of. Certainly open to anyone else's experience with PAWS, xanax, or longer-term anti-anxiety meds like Paxil.

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I take a benzo for sleep (Restoril) and that isn't anything that makes me want to drink. Then again, it's at bedtime and your Xanax is during the day. Maybe try to just take it when you absolutely have to or take a lower dose. It won't mess you up unless you let all these thoughts affect you and your AV grabs hold and says, "See? You might as well go belly up to the bar."

No experience with Paxil but I take other meds for depression and mood stabilization. I never think of PAWS cause when I learned of it, it pretty much horrified me to think I could experience those negative feelings and symptoms for up to 2 years after stopping drinking. I think sometimes knowing about something makes it more likely to come true. (Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.) So I never think about it, take it day by day and I feel fine most of the time.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:34 AM
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Oh yeah, and today is 2 months sober for me! I took that last foul, disgusting drink of scotch at around 10:30 pm on May 8, 2015. I am very grateful to be sober today thanks to each and every one of you.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:43 AM
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KG(B), [Sorry. Had to do that], I have the RR book and I haven't read it all the way through but it got me headed in the right direction. I think that book made me think about finding an online support group and that's when I found SR. So glad I googled!

I was turned off RR was listed in the secular recovery section too. I don't think everyone participating over on that forum is anti-God but it sure would be a bit uncomfortable to stand up and say you're not one of them. I was tempted to start a new thread talking about that very point. I don't think I ever did it, though.

I like RR because it doesn't say we are powerless over alcohol and it doesn't say alcoholism is a disease. I never believed it was a disease but now I'm not sure what I believe. Addiction is what I suffer from and it spreads its tendrils out into various areas of my life and I overindulge because of it. Like I said before, it's not just booze.

I think your head's in the right place now, KG. That is awesome to witness.
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Congrats Casey!!! 2 months is awesome!! Maybe you can get a nap in sometime today? My sleep was the opposite, fell asleep early, but woke up around 6, and couldn't get back to sleep.

Cissy - my weather is similar to yours. You on the east coast? I'm one of the few people in the world who hate summer, but its mostly because of the mugginess. I wish i could find some place to live where is was fall all year long, lol.

Today I am just tired. I did some cleaning though, this morning, out of boredom and the inability to sleep. I do have to work later on today, so I should sleep better tonight.

I truly enjoy reading everyone's posts, I don't lead a very exciting life, so I try not to bore you guys too much with it.

Hope you all have a fantastic day!
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I don't worry too much about the whole "is alcoholism a disease" question? It's just semantics. I know what alcohol does to me and I don't like it and don't want to live that way anymore.

As far as being powerless over alcohol, I have no problems with that concept at all. Once I take that first drink, all bets are off. I may only have two or three drinks, I may have twelve or fifteen. I can't control it. That's powerlessness, or at least fits my definition of it.

The powerlessness then extends to how I behave while drinking.

I'm sure all of you get tired of me repeating "Don't take that first drink no matter what" over and over again, but I've found a real source of power in that simple statement. I do have power over my decision to take that first drink. Alcohol has no power over me as long as I don't ingest it. That's the catch.

I honestly have never looked into Rational Recovery too deeply simply because of the name. It seems snotty and slightly condescending to me, implies that other recovery methods are irrational. But that's probably just me inferring too much into a name.
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Casey, huge congratulations!!! You're really doing well and we're all very proud of you. You are the rock of the Mayflowers and you keep us all together, like a momma duck with her ducklings. (((Hugs))) Enjoy your noon meeting and have an awesome day.

Sag, I'm in CT. Yeah, same neck of the general woods as you. We're both on the train tracks and the train keeps rolling through. That's how I like to describe our weather cause the Jet Stream keeps things interesting. I love the weather in Spring and Fall and really feel uncomfortable in Summer too, but I try to focus on how green everything is in Summer and look at the flowers and the birds and all the things that can't take place in the other seasons and I try to grin and bear it.

What area of PA are you in, Sag? I'm in the western part of CT.

I went on Freecycle to post my e-cig cause my reluctant sister didn't want it and I posted a detailed description complete with a link to an image of the exact e-cig I have and it said that it was posted to the group but it never showed up. So I thought maybe there is some restriction on things of that nature and today I just kept it as devoid of details as I could. It went through.

Then I went back to try and edit the post and it wouldn't let me. UGH! If I keep it here, I will use it. I ended up using it again yesterday. It has to go and I don't want to throw it out but I will if I must. Hate to let things go to waste when they could help someone else.

I found an interesting article on e-cigs yesterday. Funny how it never appeared when I was doing my research before buying the thing. Like most things, you have to know the right questions to ask in order to find the results you're looking for online.

Anyway, I googled e-cigs and the liver and there it was. I'll post the link. The reason I looked that up was because I noticed my liver seemed "noticeable" after taking the first few drags off the e-cig yesterday. Ykwim, you become aware of an organ that normally just stays where it belongs and does its job. Well, then I palpated all along the bottom of my rib cage where the liver is and it was tender.

This Is Your Heart on E-Cigarettes - Everyday Health

People are thinking these things are safe and a viable alternative to smoking cigs and they are in fact worse! Oh well. It was worth the experiment so I'm not upset about it. I only spent $20 on the cig and $8 on the juice.

Have an awesome sober hump day! (Or hump night.)
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Good point about the powerlessness, Casey. I'm laughing about the "snotty" thing. What I find about it that might be snotty (or snooty) is that on that forum, they are always saying that it's a secular recovery option. That is where I find it annoying. Otherwise, the basic premise of it is very helpful. Very simple and empowering.
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I know Trimpey is very against AA and devotes a good portion of his book to it, which I've skipped since I never went to AA meetings. But I don't have that opinion. I believe in the WW method (Whatever Works) lol.

I believe this will work for me--I'll be able to ignore the AV in a successful way.

And Crissy, it works very well with faith. Turn away from the AV and turn towards Christ (for someone who's Christian). Simple. It's just that a number of people who are into AVRT/RR are agnostic or atheists, probably because they can't buy into the higher power aspect of AA or other reasons. Anyway, when I subscribed to RR for a month some years ago, Trimpey himself wrote me saying that my faith is going to be a very important part of my Big Plan/abstinence. He in no way put my faith down and he thought it was a good thing. I wasn't as ready then because I didn't believe I had a problem that was that bad. And I didn't then, but it got worse over time from increased tolerance and now it's no way I want to live any more.
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I agree, KG. That's pretty cool that you got to correspond with the creator of the movement. You're right about the condition or disease being progressive. Boy is it ever! It scares me to see how some people in College and even High School drink SO MUCH alcohol in such volume like it's a competition to see who can get the most trashed without dying in the process. Very sad.
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There's varying perspectives and nuance in looking at powerlessness and disease (yes and no to each in some ways) whether coming out of an AA or AVRT approach, along with one's one personal beliefs. It's just an enormous blessing that people have different approaches to choose from, and that they can find them right here.

I might have tried AA except I'm terrible about going to meetings and had fear of being recognized in my community for something that was done in secret.
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Cissy - I am in the northeast part of PA, about an hour from Jersey. I looked at your article about e-cigs. Have you quit cigarettes? Have you tried gum, or mints or something to munch on? I have a friend who wanted to use the e-cig to quit smoking, but its about 3 years later and he still uses the e-cig. I was able to quit smoking in December. I used the patch, but I have another friend who uses the e-cig because she has a problem with the hand-to-mouth part of smoking. That can be a seriously difficult part of the habit to break. I used Twizzlers for that, lol. i totally understand that need for something though, these things have been part of my life for so long, it can be really to tough to find something positive to replace it or to fill the hole left by not doing it anymore.

I don't know if that makes sense. It's messed up how we starting smoking and drinking when we're young, never thinking we would ever regret it or end up addicted and having to fight our way back to how we used to be. I started drinking in my teens, and aside from pregnancies, I've never been a sober adult.

That's a scary thought... What a waste...
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Congrats on 2 months Casey!

I like the WW method as well KG. :-) One commonality in RR and AA is that permanent abstinence is the solution, they just diverge on how to "stay stopped". You don't have to buy into the AA explanation of a disease or allergy to realize that going back to "normal drinking" isn't a good bet. We're different somehow, and stopping totally is just the easiest and best solution.

I'm 40, I didn't start drinking until I was around 23/24 y/o. I binged back then but didn't drink all the time. In the years between,my drinking has only gotten worse. For all the effort I've put in, I've never successfully cut back. I might white knuckle a few days, but then binge and black out at the next opportunity to drink. It's miserable and endless, unless I don't drink again.
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nmd -- Our stories are a lot alike, at least on the surface. I'm also 40 (turn 41 on August 15) and I did not take my first drink until I was twenty-four years old. Though I would say I was drinking alcoholically within the first six months after that first drink. I still remember how wonderful that first real drunk felt, how the room was just slightly spinning when I stood up and I was both out of control but felt like I was in control and right where I needed to be at the same time and I thought, "Aw, this is why people drink." Chased that feeling for a long time but very seldom felt it again in the same euphoric way.

First started saying I was going to quit drinking in 2002. I've had a few runs of 30 days here and there over the years--mostly white knuckling like you. Couple of times I've made it to 50+ days because of legal issues that kept me from drinking.

This is only my second time to pass that two month mark. First time was when I discovered SR in July 2013. SR gets some of the credit for that sobriety run but also that time I was way deep into a big mess I'd made over some big lies and thievery. That was WAY more my issue that time than the drinking so once those issues started clearing up, I thought I was safe to drink again. Since then, I've mostly drank at home alone instead of going to the bars like I used to. Haven't been telling the big lies or stealing like I used to, so that was a step in the right direction.

I wasn't really causing any big bad issues in my life with my drinking when I quit this time--I was just tired of feeling stagnant and alone and also hungover all the time. And somehow something has clicked this time and it just feels very different than any other time I've quit. Drinking is just not a viable option for me anymore. I've been there, done that, and it hasn't worked. I want something better. I know that quitting drinking is not the be-all, end-all answer to my life's problems, but it's been the necessary first step.
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I can't imagine starting to drink at 24. I began smoking cigs and had my first taste of beer or whatever else around the time I was 12 or 13. My early years were filled with turmoil. I was the last of 5 girls and my parents fought constantly and it would get physical. My dad got the cops called on him multiple times and I remember the flashing lights and him being taken away in cuffs.

Soon as my mom went to work to be able to support the two of us who still lived at home, I saw an opportunity to take it up a notch. Not only that but my neighbor friend who was just a little younger than me drowned at the age of 11. After that, my world was wrecked. I sought out pills, smokes, weed, booze, whatever was available. My crowd became the druggy burn-outs.

I don't think I would have gone that route or hit it that hard if my friend hadn't died but I knew him since before we could remember each other. We grew up together and he was the closest thing I had to a brother. I couldn't make sense of him being gone. He was the first person that I was close to who had died. His mother was my God-mother.

I still think of him sometimes, obviously. I think if he hadn't died, we probably would have messed around or dated or maybe even more when we became adults. It was that kind of bond. His name was Stephen. What a waste.

So I can't imagine what it would be like to go through junior high and high school sober. The things I could have accomplished! The different path I could have chosen. But things are what they are and you can't remake the past. I guess everything has value if we learn from it and make the best use of who we are and where we are and where we intend to go.

Guess I needed to say all that today. I'm not sad, just saying.
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I also had one of my two best friends die from drowning when we were eight. So I can definitely understand how that would warp your whole childhood.

My dad stopped drinking when I was 7-8 years old. He was very active in AA for many years. Also had a grandfather who was active. I don't remember either of them drinking but have heard some of the horror stories. I did get to see first hand my mom's deterioration from prescription pill abuse and other mental issues when I was a teenager. She turned into a whole different person and never recovered really until she died last year. I had always heard how alcoholism has a genetic component to it so I made a conscious decision to not drink or associate with a party crowd. Until I was 24 and flipped that switch. Like I said, I was drinking alcoholically within six months after that. Probably sooner though early on it was a bit binge-ier than my later every day drinking.
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Wow, Casey and Cissy, you've been through some things, and nmd, I know how hard it can be.
We have the rest of our lives to make them better and better, however long we have.
Cissy, I just got the KG(B) joke lol! Nyet, nyet!! How did you know?
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Hi, just checking in.

It never stops raining. It is pouring again. I have never seen so much rain in a St. Louis summer in all of my 38 years here. I don't know how there is so much water left in the sky.

I want to check out the AVRT book. Can someone tell me what it is called?

Under the Influence is still my go to book when I start to forget why I am doing this. I need to read it again because I am losing my grip on all of this. Not like I want to drink all the time but my effort into staying sober has diminished. The household has become more relaxed about it over time so then I think it's ok. I need to talk to them about it I think because it's not ok and it seems as though they forgot the bad stuff instead of me this time.

It is easier when they are behind my sobriety and right now they don't care one way or another because nothing bad happened the last two times I drank.
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