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Old 08-05-2015, 04:07 PM
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TL, I don't know how you feel about it, but when I was in a lot of pain I was pretty grateful to be sober because in the past alcohol abuse provided temporary relief but made the overall pain worse, especially in the morning. My next challenge was the painkillers. Be careful of that. Though I had been over a year sober when I had my back surgery, I found myself eating painkillers after the pain was gone. Slippery slope. I feel for you and hope the nerve block helps.
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Old 08-06-2015, 03:45 AM
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hope you are feeling better TL,

stress test today and then get a heart event monitor to wear for a week or so...
of course, it probably won't show what it was doing all day last Friday... but it is often enough for them to get some snaps of it...
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:35 AM
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I hope you've found some relief TL. Back to the Podiatrist today for a follow-up and two more cortisone injections in my feet. Glad you're checking this heart episode out Brain. Z you're so right about the painkillers. They're insidious. You can become dependent before you know it.

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Old 08-07-2015, 04:27 AM
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hope the feet feel better vet...
time for a shower and to plug myself back into my little recorder. 4 electrodes with wires to the chest area going to a small box about the size of a pack of cigarettes. It make a horrid noise when the record button is pressed.
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Old 08-07-2015, 07:31 PM
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been out for a few days - ill - hows everyone doin'?

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Old 08-08-2015, 09:19 AM
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Hope you're on the mend, Dee. Also hope this challenging period gives way to something maybe a bit more boring for many folks.
My health continues to confound me by being, well, pretty good. I have roof jacks and a plank set up on the front of my house and will re-putty 24 little panes of glass in dormer windows today. If the showers hold off. I love those old windows and feel guilty for letting them become so decrepit. So: I will finish my piece of cherry pie and head out into a glazing adventure! Great weekend wishes to all.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:57 PM
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I'm good again JR
Good luck with the glazing

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Old 08-09-2015, 02:51 AM
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Physical results back. Results are good except cholesterol a little high. Liver panel was fine if you can believe that. He put me on the lowest dose of a statin drug called Lipitor. My boss who is only 52 and a distance runner doesn't believe in statins and sent me a lot of articles about how statins are bad. He's on something called the Paleo diet.you only eat meat including fish and chicken, preferably grass fed or free range. No legumes (beans, peanuts) but lots of other nuts like cashews, almonds and pecans. The Paleo diet calls for no alchohol nut he drinks, but not to excess. Organic food is preferred.
He sent me an Excel chart with numbers. The school of thought he follows says that it's not the big number that counts but the ratio between triglycerides and HDL cholesterol or something like that. His formula has me okay but not excellent.

Still dealing with the plantar faciatis. Two more cortisone injections yesterday. The orthodotics he gave me are really helping. I probably deal with that the rest of my life.

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Old 08-09-2015, 03:28 AM
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Apropos of nothing really, but a Dr friend of mine likes to point out that the Paleo and other caveman diets are meant for human beings who only had a lifespan of about 30 years....



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He and I have had many discusssions about it. He eats no grains (oatmeal, corn, etc). Grains are evil. The real threat to the heart is carbohydrates, he says. He eats carbohydrates in limited amounts
High fat. Leaves skin on chicken and eats the fat from steak. Lots of salt but it must be sea salt, not the salt you get from Morton's. I don't do the Paleo diet. It's just too restricting for me. He says the caveman died early not because of what they ate but because of exposure to the elements and multiple wild carnivores like the sabor tooth tiger which was five times the size of the modern tiger. They hunted the beasts and the beasts hunted them.He eats no potatoes (although I point out that you can pick them up of the ground which seems to be a Paleo paradigm). I basically follow a balanced diet. My wife will not put a lot of fat on the table.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:42 AM
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I am also not a fan of statins. I am on day seven of oatmeal for breakfast every day. I put honey on it and add fruit.
I worked with a guy who went on a paleo diet to lose weight. After a couple years he checked out from complications of the diet. He was barely in his fifties. It messed with his digestive tract... anyway...

Everything in moderation. Cut out the carbohydrates for sure and start exercise.
Look at the Mediterranean diet sans wine. That's a good place to start.

Or as another doctor promotes for the diet, "Make salad the main dish."

Seriously, getting exercise and a small dietary change with do wonders for the body. My cholesterol was 206 last check and doctor wasn't worried a bit.

Your doctor is your doctor and he prescribed something for for a reason. I would get a second opinion on taking those. At least read all you can about them and understand exactly what they do. Side effects etc.
I'm not a doctor or scientist but I have done a lot of research this past month on heart health, cholesterol and all that jazz. Unless I was in the extreme category of high cholesterol, you couldn't pay me to take statins.
Unless of course I already had a heart attack and confirmed artery disease - then maybe...
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:48 AM
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I've been on Lipitor, a small dosage, for many years. My cholesterol numbers weren't really high, but elevated. I tried to adjust my diet, which was pretty healthy anyway, but couldn't drop into the desired range. My father died young of a heart attack, so I figured it was worthwhile being vigilant.
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Old 08-09-2015, 03:18 PM
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I hope I didn't annoy anyone. Everyone has the right to follow whatever diet they wish

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Old 08-09-2015, 06:29 PM
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No annoyance, Dee. But when I think of the people that I know, diet has much the same power as politics to stroke pride or scratch defensiveness. It can get personal. (I know that my back gets up a little when people make jokes about my vegetarian shepherd's pie, for example. What clear-thinking person could possibly laugh at the idea of a vegetarian shepherd's pie? For example.)
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Old 08-10-2015, 03:04 AM
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Wait a minute. Vegetarian shepherd's pie?
Thanks for the idea. I still have a LOT of ground venison. Carnivorous shepherd's pie for me.
I think it's time to plant a new row of carrots too...
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:02 AM
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It makes sense to me to consider a diet that excludes processed foods. Not paleo, necessarily, but pre-sugar and chemical additives and such. It's the processing that creates substances our bodies didn't evolve to handle.

Fruit good - processed sugar probably not.
Veggies good - prepackaged with preservatives probably not.
Whole grains okay - white flour probably not.
Meats bought raw and clean okay - deli meats packed with crap probably not.

My new challenge is these hives or cold sores popping up on my nose. Nasty and uncomfortable. My wife has long gotten cold sores on her lip, and she thinks my nose thing is the same. She mostly controls it with diet. Basically, it's herpes simplex triggered by food allergies. I thought it was strawberries that did it to me, but then even without strawberries it happened again. Then I eliminated all soft fruits that are not organic. Someone suggested it could be the pesticides and not the fruit itself causing the break outs. I was eating a lot of grapes and apples and blueberries... Now, a week eating only organic fruit, and mostly organic vegetables, my nose is back to normal. I'm thinking I need to suck it up and buy only organic produce. It's expensive, but hey, I'm not spending money on booze.

Lipitor gave me flu-like symptoms and aching kidneys. My cholesterol is slightly high but not horrible. My dad's LDL was below 100 for decades because the Lipitor definitely helped lower his cholesterol, but it didn't stop or maybe even slow the plaque build-up. He died of congestive heart failure at 77. I've been holding off and thinking eat right eat right... Sugar is my nemesis, and it is the worst of the worst carb and probably the culprit in more heart disease than people want to admit. Gladly, I am now over two weeks with no processed sugar. The only processed foods I've had were some organic blue corn chips and organic sprouted bread. I feel great. Starting to lose weight again, and I went to a music festival, camped all weekend, stayed up late, sang and played guitar, and even danced (carefully on account of back surgery last winter and prostate surgery a month ago). My energy is better (though I'm physically tired and sore from exercise).

So, yes, salad is my main dish. The way I keep myself honest is I get a three-pack of organic romaine, wash and chop it all, and put it in a container in the fridge. Then I take other veggies and do the same to make a mix so I have three or four days worth of salad ready to eat. Just toss the chopped veggies on some lettuce, add oil, vinegar, maybe nuts and seeds or chicken, and ready. No excuses. Gotta eat it before it gets tired. Fill up on the good stuff to help avoid the crap.

My pattern has been I maintain it for a few weeks and then slide. Just like alcohol back in the day only it's sugar and processed foods that I call a relapse. Bit by bit, though, I'm eliminating garbage from my body.

Live to poop; poop to live. That's what I say.

Oh, wait, it's Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat.

Or something like that...

The Travelin' McCourys with Nershi were jaw-dropping amazing, BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idI_HPWG2sU
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We grow a lot of our spring/summer/fall food. Lots of greens. Tonight I dug some red skinned spuds, carrots and beets. Combined with our own garlic, onions and zucchini. And chicken definitely not raised lovingly. But. We try our best. Beet green etc smoothies in the morning. Not everyone's taste, for sure.
I knew I'd get LB's attention with that reference to veggie shepherd's pie!
Tasted venison once. Chi chi restaurant. Absolutely delicious. Back in the day. 7 years now without red meat.
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Zero: "who am I kidding". Always like to read your self identification stuff.
TL: are you checking in here? Hope so. Let us know what's going on with you when you have a moment?
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wow, good stuff gang, live to poop, poop to live, for sure!
Last year I tried to convince my wife that the grapes she eats almost daily are going to kill her. The pesticides ... yes, I've eaten my share of poisonous death in the form of store bought meats this past year. Hopefully I can cleanse my body of it all soon. Which reminds me, it is time to get ready to plant fall greens and stuff. My breakfast today was 1C of oats cooked with water, 2 tbsp of raw unfiltered honey and 2 peaches.
I'm visiting my sister end of week. She was told she has type II diabetes now. But if she can change her diet and turn things around she won't need to take pills. My wife told me when I go down there to make sure I set an example for her on how to eat. Her life of bar stool, crap food forever and zero exercise finally caught up to her. High blood pressure too. For her high cholesterol 10 years ago the doctor told her to switch to coors lite. That was her only health food.

Thanks for the the video link zero.. That gilchrist mando is a couple years of house payments for me. I think it's a gilchrist???
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:13 AM
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Gilchrist? Didn't notice. Drooling at the finger work.
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