Class of October 2013
Driver,
Thanks for sharing your letter. As I was reading, I was nodding along in recognition. A few things in particular:
I hit on a similar recognition of the birth of my demon/beast. As a wee child I developed terrible asthma. I've always remembered my mother giving me a choice of whether to take the prescribed medication because of how "horribly" it affected me (I would get extremely jittery). But what I didn't remember until just recently was that I sometimes somewhat guiltily opted for the medication because I kinda liked those jitters. Weird, huh.
Interesting memory. Weird? not so sure though. We all seem to gravitate toward things that make us feel good. Maybe a little more so in folks like us though.
But you know what is really weird...the whole "i before e except after c" thing. That makes the word "weird" well, kinda weird! Sorry to digress on that stupid point. Certainly dont mean to make too much light of anything here. I just love the irony of the word,
Me too! Did your mom try to make you not worry? Mine did, she tried to tease me out of it. And that only made me feel anxious that I wasn't "right." I've finally learned - somewhat - to live with the worry. I think. It's early days for me, like you. My thought is that I need to take my anxious energy and devote it to into something worth the brain power. (Sound advice from my generally-supportive-if-not-always-understanding partner.)
Never any teasing. I just came to realize as I grew much older (in 30s) my constant worry was an issue that fell on the Nature/Nuture pendulum with mine being a nature deal. It simply was my temperament if you will. I was born worried. But by then I was moving along quite well as a functional drunk. Why fix what was working (or so I kinda thought).
Wow! What an uncanny experience! But I don't find it fantastical at all. I may be deluded, but as things grew worse for me and the pull of the liquor became even stronger, I found myself automatically noticing people "like me." There was no particular demographic, and I (like many of us) rotated stores often enough to avoid recognizing anyone but the clerks, so it wasn't that.
In his book Rational Recovery, Jack Trimpey refers to the "mingling of beasts," explaining that our inner beast (addiction) is automatically attracted to the beasts of others. I believe that. And I think it is a good reason those of us who don't yet truly believe we will never drink again are best off avoiding situations when other folks are drinking.
Thanks for sharing your letter. As I was reading, I was nodding along in recognition. A few things in particular:
I hit on a similar recognition of the birth of my demon/beast. As a wee child I developed terrible asthma. I've always remembered my mother giving me a choice of whether to take the prescribed medication because of how "horribly" it affected me (I would get extremely jittery). But what I didn't remember until just recently was that I sometimes somewhat guiltily opted for the medication because I kinda liked those jitters. Weird, huh.
Interesting memory. Weird? not so sure though. We all seem to gravitate toward things that make us feel good. Maybe a little more so in folks like us though.
But you know what is really weird...the whole "i before e except after c" thing. That makes the word "weird" well, kinda weird! Sorry to digress on that stupid point. Certainly dont mean to make too much light of anything here. I just love the irony of the word,
Me too! Did your mom try to make you not worry? Mine did, she tried to tease me out of it. And that only made me feel anxious that I wasn't "right." I've finally learned - somewhat - to live with the worry. I think. It's early days for me, like you. My thought is that I need to take my anxious energy and devote it to into something worth the brain power. (Sound advice from my generally-supportive-if-not-always-understanding partner.)
Never any teasing. I just came to realize as I grew much older (in 30s) my constant worry was an issue that fell on the Nature/Nuture pendulum with mine being a nature deal. It simply was my temperament if you will. I was born worried. But by then I was moving along quite well as a functional drunk. Why fix what was working (or so I kinda thought).
Wow! What an uncanny experience! But I don't find it fantastical at all. I may be deluded, but as things grew worse for me and the pull of the liquor became even stronger, I found myself automatically noticing people "like me." There was no particular demographic, and I (like many of us) rotated stores often enough to avoid recognizing anyone but the clerks, so it wasn't that.
In his book Rational Recovery, Jack Trimpey refers to the "mingling of beasts," explaining that our inner beast (addiction) is automatically attracted to the beasts of others. I believe that. And I think it is a good reason those of us who don't yet truly believe we will never drink again are best off avoiding situations when other folks are drinking.
So it's 2am here. Sleeping for crap again (sigh). But I remember a Septemberite saying s/t like "rather have a few hours of sleep and go to work groggy than a night of drinking and going to work with hangover and all the associated guilt/shame."
I can relate to that now.
I'm ready for the next day! However you come, you cannot beat me. I embrace you with eyes wide sober.
I can relate to that now.
I'm ready for the next day! However you come, you cannot beat me. I embrace you with eyes wide sober.
Obladi, I've got some other responses buried in the quote from my first post this late evening. Still figuring how to interface with this. Not sure how u were able to get 3 quote boxes into one response. I'll figure it out.
Nice chatting with you. Hang in there today. I'm sure your kiddos enjoyed the time with you.
Nice chatting with you. Hang in there today. I'm sure your kiddos enjoyed the time with you.
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Obladi, I've got some other responses buried in the quote from my first post this late evening. Still figuring how to interface with this. Not sure how u were able to get 3 quote boxes into one response. I'll figure it out.
Nice chatting with you. Hang in there today. I'm sure your kiddos enjoyed the time with you.
Nice chatting with you. Hang in there today. I'm sure your kiddos enjoyed the time with you.
PS What's the 'Dee' icon with the cross through it?
Just mentioned this on sept class thread but thought id throw it on here too, for anyone struggling at the enormity of staying sober 'forever', to help keep it in the day check out Joe Walsh 'One Day at a Time' on youtube official video. I listen to it everyday and it inspires me, and can relate to the lyrics. Hope it helps guys.
Hi all! Checking in today. Made it through day 3 and today is day 4 for me. Haven't been able to stay sober more than a couple of days in years. But actually feeling pretty good about today even though I will be getting off work early today and that usually would spell trouble for me. It's is helping me to picture a sober me in the future and how much better I know my life will be. Personally not looking at 24 hour aspect because my sick self could say screw it I'll just start again tomorrow. Slowly moving into the future sober.
So many people! It makes me happy to see so many people taking the first steps to a happy life.
Ghostface- I'm another 4:30 AM riser. I've been doing it for years. When I'm at my best, my morning routine is sacred.
Ghostface- I'm another 4:30 AM riser. I've been doing it for years. When I'm at my best, my morning routine is sacred.
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