BP Town -- Open to anyone who rides the rollar coaster Pt III
(((Hippy)))
I'm sorry to hear that.
I am surprised that they take your liscense away! What's that about? :crazy
That doesn't happen here for mental illness. It can for seizures and other physical illness, though.
I really do hope that your employment issues can be solved. Please continue to let us know.
Shalom!
I'm sorry to hear that.
I am surprised that they take your liscense away! What's that about? :crazy
That doesn't happen here for mental illness. It can for seizures and other physical illness, though.
I really do hope that your employment issues can be solved. Please continue to let us know.
Shalom!
Thanks both,
Yeah, it is so unfair. The DVLA, UK's driving authority, can take your license away for mental instability. You don't need to have been a danger at the wheel or had suicidal ideation involving the car. Just simple instability. I had mine revoked for a minimum of 3 months but when I reapply they could easily say "no, wait until 6 months"
How far they take the classification of instability, I do not know. Fair enough, I was unstable when they took it away. I was in hospital. I looked up their information site and it seems they could regard me as unstable for a simple a reason as having medication alterations!
You can appeal their decision but only through the courts which costs a lot of money! They won't tell you specifically why they revoked your license so you wouldn't know what you are fighting! Then when and if you get your license back, it is only for a year at a time for several years! I think it is discrimination but it would take someone with more money than I to take them to task for it.
What really infuriates me is that in UK some of the illnesses people are allowed to drive with is nothing short of crazy!
The other part of it is there must be people like me all over the country who are too worried to tell their pdocs how bad things are for fear of not getting their license back. However, I have decided that I have to tell pdoc as my health has to be more important. Hopefully honesty with pdoc counts as stability!
Anyway, I'll stop rambling! I'll let you know how employment stuff goes as it happens.
Thanks for listening.
Hippy
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am surprised that they take your liscense away! What's that about?
How far they take the classification of instability, I do not know. Fair enough, I was unstable when they took it away. I was in hospital. I looked up their information site and it seems they could regard me as unstable for a simple a reason as having medication alterations!
You can appeal their decision but only through the courts which costs a lot of money! They won't tell you specifically why they revoked your license so you wouldn't know what you are fighting! Then when and if you get your license back, it is only for a year at a time for several years! I think it is discrimination but it would take someone with more money than I to take them to task for it.
What really infuriates me is that in UK some of the illnesses people are allowed to drive with is nothing short of crazy!
The other part of it is there must be people like me all over the country who are too worried to tell their pdocs how bad things are for fear of not getting their license back. However, I have decided that I have to tell pdoc as my health has to be more important. Hopefully honesty with pdoc counts as stability!
Anyway, I'll stop rambling! I'll let you know how employment stuff goes as it happens.
Thanks for listening.
Hippy
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Do you have a national association for mental illness in the UK, Hippy?
Here, we have NAMI, which helps fight this type of discrimination. And I do agree with you, that it is discrimination to take your liscense away for mental illness. One has nothing to do with the other! Geezzz, Louise! If so, perhaps you can contact them and ask for assistance about this issue. They might know ways to fight it or ways for you to get your liscense back? Can't hurt to try anyway.
But, I'm very glad that you remain committed to your good health. Being honest with your pdoc is so important in order to get back to feeling like your old self. And that's the goal of your partnership with your doc, afterall.
I agree with you that this honesty should be considered a sign of your stability. Will your doc write a note to the DVLA about this for you? S/he should be just as concerned about this stigma as you are for the very reasons you suggest. Cuz, I would sure as hell be loath to tell the truth if I knew my liscense - my independence - would be taken from me! Now *that's* crazy! :crazy
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Shalom!
Here, we have NAMI, which helps fight this type of discrimination. And I do agree with you, that it is discrimination to take your liscense away for mental illness. One has nothing to do with the other! Geezzz, Louise! If so, perhaps you can contact them and ask for assistance about this issue. They might know ways to fight it or ways for you to get your liscense back? Can't hurt to try anyway.
But, I'm very glad that you remain committed to your good health. Being honest with your pdoc is so important in order to get back to feeling like your old self. And that's the goal of your partnership with your doc, afterall.
I agree with you that this honesty should be considered a sign of your stability. Will your doc write a note to the DVLA about this for you? S/he should be just as concerned about this stigma as you are for the very reasons you suggest. Cuz, I would sure as hell be loath to tell the truth if I knew my liscense - my independence - would be taken from me! Now *that's* crazy! :crazy
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Shalom!
Cinder,
How you doing?
Have you made the appointment yet?
What's going on?
Please let us know. We care...
Oxford,
What's up?
How's it going?
Have you had follow up care? I hope so.
Please let us know how you're doing. You know we care about you, too...
Shalom!
How you doing?
Have you made the appointment yet?
What's going on?
Please let us know. We care...
Oxford,
What's up?
How's it going?
Have you had follow up care? I hope so.
Please let us know how you're doing. You know we care about you, too...
Shalom!
I will ask my pdoc tomorrow if he will say that I am stable when the DVLA contact him.
Part of the probelm is that when I was really unwell, I spoke of suicidal ideation, not using the car, but using the car to get me to a particular place. That may have been enough to have my license revoked as this place is only accessible by car.
I am not sure about a national association. There will be something, a body that advises the government.
Hippy
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Part of the probelm is that when I was really unwell, I spoke of suicidal ideation, not using the car, but using the car to get me to a particular place. That may have been enough to have my license revoked as this place is only accessible by car.
I am not sure about a national association. There will be something, a body that advises the government.
Hippy
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Thanks teach, you are lovely!
Had pdoc appt this morning. It went really well. I was honest, told him the whole lot of my destructive behaviours. He has altered my meds a bit.
My anx was obvious and he certainly didn't think I was tryin to pull the wool over his eyes. In fact, I didn't have to ask him to write a letter, he offered.He dictated a letter there and then to say I was still fluctuating in mood, I was unfit for work and unfit for interview. It will be sent to me and I forward it to my work. This may backfire and prompt my work to pay me off but I don't actually care just now. At least it will get it over and done with.
I don't know why I get so worked up cos he has always been so supportive of me.
Best bit for last....He said there is no problem with me re applying for my license!
Now I just have the disability employment adviser to see this afternoon. Next chapter follows later!
Hippy
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Had pdoc appt this morning. It went really well. I was honest, told him the whole lot of my destructive behaviours. He has altered my meds a bit.
My anx was obvious and he certainly didn't think I was tryin to pull the wool over his eyes. In fact, I didn't have to ask him to write a letter, he offered.He dictated a letter there and then to say I was still fluctuating in mood, I was unfit for work and unfit for interview. It will be sent to me and I forward it to my work. This may backfire and prompt my work to pay me off but I don't actually care just now. At least it will get it over and done with.
I don't know why I get so worked up cos he has always been so supportive of me.
Best bit for last....He said there is no problem with me re applying for my license!
Now I just have the disability employment adviser to see this afternoon. Next chapter follows later!
Hippy
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Oh, Hippy,
I'm SOOOOO happy for you!!!
I pray that it all works out for you,
And you are so good to lay it out truthfully to your doc!
See how it can work out so well!
Let's hope that the next phase works out just as well, but,
you know,
I have the feeling it will.
Shalom!
I'm SOOOOO happy for you!!!
I pray that it all works out for you,
And you are so good to lay it out truthfully to your doc!
See how it can work out so well!
Let's hope that the next phase works out just as well, but,
you know,
I have the feeling it will.
Shalom!
Hi, I hope I am not intruding here. I was DX with bipolar in 1991 along with panic attacks with agoraphobia and BPD. Thought I would check your thread out and say hello.
Angie
Normal is a cycle on a washing machine.
Angie
Normal is a cycle on a washing machine.
Hi Angie,
you are certainly not intruding. This is a friendly welcoming thread. Make yourself at home! You sound like you have a bit going on with the triple dx. How do you/are you managing it all?
Excuse me whilst I screeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmm! I think the world is just mad! My hubs and I have a testing time coming up. His conduct at work is being investigated. In the meantime, he has been located elsewhere. There is a very real chance of him being fired. Soooooooo, both of us losing our jobs will be a great one eh? Mortgage to pay, no money.....
I feel mad cos while what happened is more than understandable, his type of work does not allow for lapses in judgement. He made a bad move. A silly move but not anything that is going to shake the world. So the spectre of this hanging over us is gonna be just fab...not!
I want to go to sleep and waken up when my families life is normal and stress free. I feel so inadequate as I realise I have to support my hubs but my default setting at the mo is STRESS ALERT. I feel so bad and wrong wanting to reach for my anti anx meds when it is his situation. I hate Benzo's but I am going to be reaching for them breakfast lunch and dinner methinks.
I wonder what odds a bookie would give for me remanining stable for longer than 3 months? 1000000000-1 probably!
Ignore me and the pity party. I just need to vent. I wish I was a stronger person just now.
Hippy
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you are certainly not intruding. This is a friendly welcoming thread. Make yourself at home! You sound like you have a bit going on with the triple dx. How do you/are you managing it all?
Excuse me whilst I screeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmm! I think the world is just mad! My hubs and I have a testing time coming up. His conduct at work is being investigated. In the meantime, he has been located elsewhere. There is a very real chance of him being fired. Soooooooo, both of us losing our jobs will be a great one eh? Mortgage to pay, no money.....
I feel mad cos while what happened is more than understandable, his type of work does not allow for lapses in judgement. He made a bad move. A silly move but not anything that is going to shake the world. So the spectre of this hanging over us is gonna be just fab...not!
I want to go to sleep and waken up when my families life is normal and stress free. I feel so inadequate as I realise I have to support my hubs but my default setting at the mo is STRESS ALERT. I feel so bad and wrong wanting to reach for my anti anx meds when it is his situation. I hate Benzo's but I am going to be reaching for them breakfast lunch and dinner methinks.
I wonder what odds a bookie would give for me remanining stable for longer than 3 months? 1000000000-1 probably!
Ignore me and the pity party. I just need to vent. I wish I was a stronger person just now.
Hippy
xx
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Hi Hippy, I am finally starting to try working in the shop for 3 or 4 hrs a day. I am finally starting to see a few good days in a row instead of swinging back and forth between anxiety/fear and depression/hopelessness. I had no place to go, I really was at my bottom, and with no other option, I truly in my heart got on my knees and turned my insanity over to God, even though I couldn't feel his presence in me anymore, I thought I had lost all contact with Him forever. Nothing was changing I was missing bankruptcy payments, I had to sell my favorite old Martin guitar, showing God that I would sell anything I owned to pay my bills. There was no immediate turnaround but ever so slowly and painfully, I started to feel like I might want to live again, and it has got a little
better, not every day but enough to thank God, and start trying to see what I could do to start getting back on my feet. It can get better even when all hope is lost, if you remember some of my posts from months ago that is where I was. Please keep looking for what will work for you, if it feels right pray about it and do your best.
better, not every day but enough to thank God, and start trying to see what I could do to start getting back on my feet. It can get better even when all hope is lost, if you remember some of my posts from months ago that is where I was. Please keep looking for what will work for you, if it feels right pray about it and do your best.
Stick around; read the forum stickies and let us know a bit about yourself. Hippy is right; we are a friendly group here, very supportive and careing for each other. I look forward to getting to know you.
Shalom!
Oh, Hippy;
I'm sorry to hear about the hubby's problems!
I hope it turns out ok. Please let us know how it's going.
But, in the meantime, you just continue doing the next right thing for yourself.
You know it's necessary, and the best for everyone involved, right?
Jurneyman,
So glad to hear you're doing better.
Sorry about the guitar...That sucks, but,
You make a good point about looking for what is right for you;
Praying on it and doing it.
It's all about doing the next right thing, now, isn't it?
Keep up the good work!
Shalom!
I'm sorry to hear about the hubby's problems!
I hope it turns out ok. Please let us know how it's going.
But, in the meantime, you just continue doing the next right thing for yourself.
You know it's necessary, and the best for everyone involved, right?
Jurneyman,
So glad to hear you're doing better.
Sorry about the guitar...That sucks, but,
You make a good point about looking for what is right for you;
Praying on it and doing it.
It's all about doing the next right thing, now, isn't it?
Keep up the good work!
Shalom!
[QUOTE=hippyhippy;2008240]Hi Angie,
you are certainly not intruding. This is a friendly welcoming thread. Make yourself at home! You sound like you have a bit going on with the triple dx. How do you/are you managing it all?
Years of therapy, my medication and a higher power I suppose.
Today has been a good day..on a not so good day I see black or white no gray of course this will become obvious as time passes.
I have found that if I can make myself remember to look for any lil good thing no matter how small then I have found the silver lining in the clouds.
It gets really hard as all of you know and I am a rapid cycler lucky me. I care for my son who has a DX of schizoaffective and antisocial personality and he is addicted as well.
Meedless to say sometimes I do hide in my bed and hope it will all be gone when I wake up.
I will be married for 25 years on valentines day. We have three children.
That is a little about me.
you are certainly not intruding. This is a friendly welcoming thread. Make yourself at home! You sound like you have a bit going on with the triple dx. How do you/are you managing it all?
Years of therapy, my medication and a higher power I suppose.
Today has been a good day..on a not so good day I see black or white no gray of course this will become obvious as time passes.
I have found that if I can make myself remember to look for any lil good thing no matter how small then I have found the silver lining in the clouds.
It gets really hard as all of you know and I am a rapid cycler lucky me. I care for my son who has a DX of schizoaffective and antisocial personality and he is addicted as well.
Meedless to say sometimes I do hide in my bed and hope it will all be gone when I wake up.
I will be married for 25 years on valentines day. We have three children.
That is a little about me.
I have found that if I can make myself remember to look for any lil good thing no matter how small then I have found the silver lining in the clouds.
Do you keep a gratitude journal? I found that it is a good thing, especial during the dark days.
I will be married for 25 years on valentines day. We have three children.
Shalom!
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HT, Thanks for trying to help me stay positive. It was very hard after the one person
left that I could believe, use as an example, and who was actually living, and pushing through the same mental personal HeII, and misery that defines depression, as I was at that time. Because of inspiration and guidance that I couldn't even see, I stayed and continued to try and hope it would get better, even thou I really didn't believe it.
Crazybabie, HT stated that we care very much, and we do, we don't always have the answers but will always try to help, because unless someone has been to the very bottom, they just cannot truly and fully understand the total hopelessness, when giving up, and wanting to die is an option. Nobody else but a fellow sufferer who has carried this same burden, and knows the work it takes just to get out of bed and do the basics. These I have described in detail in earlier posts, so there is no need to repeat them here. I have a long way to go, but that hopelessness has slowly dissipated, allowing me to gratefully continue trudging the path of a happy destiny. Please keep trying no matter what it takes, I have and it does get better, never as fast as we want it, but depression
in any form is not an exact science and it might take painful and frustrating trial and error. The people on this thread, who will share their personal experience, strength, and hope just might help you get through to the other side, having been there and done it.
Hippy, Please hang in there, keep trying to be persistent in looking for those that can help you, don't let the dark side win, keep faith, and try to believe that the universe has better plans in the future for you and your hubby, even like myself you don't believe, understand, or see them yet. Just try not to quit before it happens, you are a child of the universe a spirit who deserves the very best, don't forget or underestimate that power. I normally do not like to recommend a medication unless I have personally tried it. What finally did help to lower my anxiety that kept triggering my depression was ABILIFY/aripiprazole, again I am not recommending that you try this medication, just that it along with others helped me. PM me anytime, sometimes it helps just to have an
understanding target to vent at.
left that I could believe, use as an example, and who was actually living, and pushing through the same mental personal HeII, and misery that defines depression, as I was at that time. Because of inspiration and guidance that I couldn't even see, I stayed and continued to try and hope it would get better, even thou I really didn't believe it.
Crazybabie, HT stated that we care very much, and we do, we don't always have the answers but will always try to help, because unless someone has been to the very bottom, they just cannot truly and fully understand the total hopelessness, when giving up, and wanting to die is an option. Nobody else but a fellow sufferer who has carried this same burden, and knows the work it takes just to get out of bed and do the basics. These I have described in detail in earlier posts, so there is no need to repeat them here. I have a long way to go, but that hopelessness has slowly dissipated, allowing me to gratefully continue trudging the path of a happy destiny. Please keep trying no matter what it takes, I have and it does get better, never as fast as we want it, but depression
in any form is not an exact science and it might take painful and frustrating trial and error. The people on this thread, who will share their personal experience, strength, and hope just might help you get through to the other side, having been there and done it.
Hippy, Please hang in there, keep trying to be persistent in looking for those that can help you, don't let the dark side win, keep faith, and try to believe that the universe has better plans in the future for you and your hubby, even like myself you don't believe, understand, or see them yet. Just try not to quit before it happens, you are a child of the universe a spirit who deserves the very best, don't forget or underestimate that power. I normally do not like to recommend a medication unless I have personally tried it. What finally did help to lower my anxiety that kept triggering my depression was ABILIFY/aripiprazole, again I am not recommending that you try this medication, just that it along with others helped me. PM me anytime, sometimes it helps just to have an
understanding target to vent at.
Jurneyman,
Keep posting and letting us know how you're doing.
I've been there myself. It took years for me to get where I am today. Others sometimes forget that. I never will forget those dark days. It helps me to continue trying to do the next right thing.
And I've been on SR for a number of years now; first as a member, now as a mod. One thing I can say with certainty. People come and go all the time for any number of reasons. In the end, it only means they were ready to move on. And we bless them on their journey.
Many return. They are always welcome. Because, as Jon, the founder of SR once said, we don't shoot our wounded here. The sole purpose of SR is to get and give help and support. That's why we're here.
Shalom, friend!
Keep posting and letting us know how you're doing.
I've been there myself. It took years for me to get where I am today. Others sometimes forget that. I never will forget those dark days. It helps me to continue trying to do the next right thing.
And I've been on SR for a number of years now; first as a member, now as a mod. One thing I can say with certainty. People come and go all the time for any number of reasons. In the end, it only means they were ready to move on. And we bless them on their journey.
Many return. They are always welcome. Because, as Jon, the founder of SR once said, we don't shoot our wounded here. The sole purpose of SR is to get and give help and support. That's why we're here.
Shalom, friend!
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HT, Thank you, and this thread again, for your support. In many posts I have given this forum almost full credit for helping me find out about BI-Polar II of which had no knowledge of at the time I signed up. I just stated how I honestly felt about a situation that I was powerless to change. Everyone has a God given freedom to make their own choices. At the time that it happened I was more in need of example then support, and if you read my post I also stated that I am continuing to try hoping it will get better even with what happened. What I try to say, I usually equate to AA. In this case just as I would tell a newcomer, no matter what happens don't change what is working, as an example your sponsor quits, or gets drunk, remember he or she is only human and not perfect. Just continue to work your program, and find another sponsor.
Hi folks,
Jurneyman, thank yu for your message. I am so sorry you had to sell your guitar. I am glad you are finding a way out of the hole though.
Thanks for mentioning Abilify. I don't think it is as popular here in Uk as I don't know many people who are on it. At the mo, we are still persevering with the Lamotragine. If it doesn't work, I may mention it to my pdoc. I wanted to ask about Buspar too. Managing stress and anxiety needs to be key for me at the moment.
Teach
I will try hon. I am continuing on the path I am with work. Knee jerk reaction is to ignore the fact I am not fit for work and get myself back there in case we end up wageless. However, I am not succumbing to the knee jerk. I have to believe all will turn out alright.
Crazybabe, I am a rapid cycler too. I still fuctuate ultra rapidly in mood, but the extremes are less and shorter lived. I responded well to Lamotragine (Lamictal) but it unfortunately doesn't like me very much! I keep on getting a mad itch. Luckily very small doses are doing something for me. I am now, for the umpteenth time, trying AGAIN to rise from 25mg to 50mg. So far so good. It is usually on the 50mg dose that the itch comes back.
It will be nice getting to know you.
Situation is not great at the mo. Just trying to not let fear overtake. We (my family) have so much more than many people inthe world. If we end up having less than we do at the moment, we will still be luckier than billions of people. At some times in life, it helps to reflect on what you have, rather than what you haven't.
Love to you all.
Hippy
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Jurneyman, thank yu for your message. I am so sorry you had to sell your guitar. I am glad you are finding a way out of the hole though.
Thanks for mentioning Abilify. I don't think it is as popular here in Uk as I don't know many people who are on it. At the mo, we are still persevering with the Lamotragine. If it doesn't work, I may mention it to my pdoc. I wanted to ask about Buspar too. Managing stress and anxiety needs to be key for me at the moment.
Teach
But, in the meantime, you just continue doing the next right thing for yourself.
You know it's necessary, and the best for everyone involved, right?
You know it's necessary, and the best for everyone involved, right?
Crazybabe, I am a rapid cycler too. I still fuctuate ultra rapidly in mood, but the extremes are less and shorter lived. I responded well to Lamotragine (Lamictal) but it unfortunately doesn't like me very much! I keep on getting a mad itch. Luckily very small doses are doing something for me. I am now, for the umpteenth time, trying AGAIN to rise from 25mg to 50mg. So far so good. It is usually on the 50mg dose that the itch comes back.
It will be nice getting to know you.
Situation is not great at the mo. Just trying to not let fear overtake. We (my family) have so much more than many people inthe world. If we end up having less than we do at the moment, we will still be luckier than billions of people. At some times in life, it helps to reflect on what you have, rather than what you haven't.
Love to you all.
Hippy
xx
We (my family) have so much more than many people inthe world. If we end up having less than we do at the moment, we will still be luckier than billions of people. At some times in life, it helps to reflect on what you have, rather than what you haven't.
Thank you for sharing that frame of mind.
It's so easy to fall into dispair when things go bad.
But, you are a shining example to all of us to remember to look at what we *have* and to be grateful!
Shalom!
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