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happycampers 11-16-2017 05:19 AM

The Quit Team
Good morning, gang. Well, here's to another sober day ! A good night's sleep does wonders !!! I thought I would start a new thread so as to not overtake anyone else's. As I stated a day or two ago, my goal is to stay clean for a year. I say a year because to say forever causes my brain to spasm, so no need to do that. I have a strong feeling that after a year, it will just continue that way, but for now, we have today to remain healthy and free. I must say , in my relapse, I saw a different person . It made the relapse enlightening. I didn't like the person present there. She was less entered, less present, less patient, less tolerant, more caught up in "stupid things", more grasping, more lazy ..... I could go on, but you get my point. She was less as a person - period ! It was such a contrast to the sober gal! So, thankfully, my relapse wasn't long and I am back to being the better side of this gal in a week or so . Then the trick is not to fall for the " just one puff " thinking that got me last time. Come join the Quit Team and make 2018 your best year yet !

Pacoloco 11-16-2017 06:48 AM

Great initiative, HC. Together we are stronger. Count me in.

I also have enough reasons to quit. I have too much to achieve, and to be and to do.

So let's do this. Day 5.

Who else on the quitting team? :)

lynnmarie123 11-16-2017 10:16 AM

I'm on board. Even though I have been sober for almost 5 months, I still get the whispers (I like that word for it, mm1741!) and have to stay vigilant. Every morning I make a commitment to stay quit.

teodor 11-16-2017 12:18 PM

Hi fellas ... I don't know if I'm on board. I'm at Day 2 right now. I wrote this in Windy's thread so I might repeat myself, but:

Right now I'm not at my best or anything, but it's not that bad either. I don't have appetite and etc, super tired, pretty much the normal stuff.

I'm looking forward to be sober and feeling good again, but I also want to smoke ... even after all that I'm still playing around with the idea of moderation and occasional use, although that have failed every single time, including the last one. It would have been just Fridays and maybe weekends, or when I'm together with friends etc, something like a cheat day, you know. It worked for a little bit, but then I just didn't stopped after the weekend and went back to all day every day.

BUT - It felt like it could work .... maybe ...

I'm a little bit shaken right now, this excessive smoking is bad for me certainly, I've seen that, but also the idea of never ever doesn't appeal either. Well, it's the same battle as before.

Anyway, I think I need some good time off before I can even consider trying to moderate again, if that's possible.

Right now I feel so unsure about myself and everything. I want to smoke and I don't want to smoke ... or at least I don't want the bad effects smoking has on me.

I dunno I'm really torn apart.

I'm seeing a therapist and what she said is that the problem it's not about using, but about abusing. Yeah, if I could only moderate and smoke occasionally.

Anyway, it came a long post and I'm rambling a little bit.
For now, I'm on board.

Thank you! :)

lynnmarie123 11-16-2017 02:34 PM

Hey Teodor. I understand the hanging onto moderation idea. After years of trying to moderate, I accepted the fact that it's all or nothing for me. And so I chose nothing. The idea of never again scared the crap out of me, but it was really for the best.
I like myself a lot better with the choice of nothing than with dealing with the constant fight day in and day out. I feel if you leave that door open of possible use in the future, daily cravings will never stop.
Wishing you the best.

happycampers 11-16-2017 04:34 PM

I would say Teo, NOT to worry about "forever" right now, which is why I set the goal of one year for now. We'll see how I feel then, but for now , it's one year and that's good enough for me right now. Don't let future thoughts set your determination for today's choices. Glad to have the team mates - we'll kick arse !

mm1741 11-16-2017 05:30 PM

I'm in, 100%. I really relate to the ambiguous feeling of not wanting to smoke but not wanting to quit. It's really a terrible place to be in, and a very clear sign that we are addicted. A way I look at it, is that I can continue to smoke as I am and DEFINITELY be miserable, or try sobriety and have a chance at being happy and contented, and the person I was meant to be.

I also saw a totally different person in my relapse, happycampers. And I didn't like him, at all. I'm not sure I was in love with my sober self at the time of my relapse, either, but my sober self can be improved. My using self is, and always will be, an addict, and will never change.
I hope any of that made sense. I feel like my brain is on another planet. Off to bed. I'm glad to be participating here again, and i'm so very grateful for all of you.

Dee74 11-17-2017 02:52 AM

Thanks for this thread HC - I've been ill so I'm not up on the deets but welcome back :)

I've said it before but I think pot was the most insidious of my addictions.

It was so easy to rationalise that it was ok, it was natural, it wasn't as bad as X Y or Z...

The longer I am way from my last puff the more clearly I see the reality - I was like a slave to ruled me - my world shrunk to my house, and then to my room....I needed pot every day and when I didn't have it I went seriously violently batshit crazy.

I was a vacant eyes drooling zombie (way before zombies were hip).

I stole other peoples pot and lied about it. I missed important dates and occasions for my friends and family to go get high instead and I lied about that too.

I hurt people emotionally in order to get more time to smoke alone.

My life diminshed in every sense when I smoked pot.

I'm glad I had the opportunity to stop and the courage to stay stopped - cos my world's expanded again.

Pot stole it, and I got it back.

I love who I am and I love my life.

anyone on the fence - join us.

What do you have to lose?


happycampers 11-17-2017 05:46 AM

Awesome post as usual,Dee - thanks for sharing. Yes, we are looking for peace and happiness and went down a wrong road for it. There are Many roads that lead to nowhere close to peace and happiness, so we're not alone in going down a wrong road. Now, it's time for us to find another road that will move us closer to that inner happiness. I have found mine and need to nuture that now in order for that to blossom within. I personally believe that it's an inside job as I don't believe gaining any outside object, position, state will ever heal that sense in incompleteness many of us feel inside. We were trained look outside ourselves for solutions and yes, there is happiness there, but they are all temporary and pass, which is why we kept repeating something that even temporarily took away that sense of separation/ incompleteness . But for me, I'm interested in a real solution now and it's an inside job. I already feel better and more myself even a few days away from a relapsed state. I'm myself again and that's great - I can connect to my inner Source of joy again. In the cloud of pot , I become disconnected from that Source - when stoned, I won't even look in that direction. But now, the inner Light is on again - thankfully ! Here's to another sober day and another opportunity to stick to what I know within in the face of any challenges that may arise today - I am replacing a main water line on a 100 year old building I own today going up four floor levels, so I'm sure today will have hair- pulling moments - LOL :)
Have a great day , my friends. Stay sober and rise again !!!

Pacoloco 11-17-2017 12:58 PM

Great atittude, HC. Hope you did not pull your hair off today lol.

I hope and wish everyone on the quit team is having a nice day (as much as possible).

Day 6 here.

I thought a lot about the quitting matter, and I realized that I want to quit weed for good. Meaning: FOREVER. Yes, I think I might be finding peace with that feared word.

"If you want a different result, make a different choice" (Dee's signature).

I think I'm ready to do things differently. I will make a full and serious recovery.

I started a physiotherapy treatment which is going well. I am quite debilitated because of the sedentary lifestyle and back pain. My goal is to swim again, and my dream is to swim in the sea and practice bodysurfing. Yes, I discovered I can dream again. It's not too late (yet).

Also, I decided to treat my anxiety once and for all. I did not find a therapist yet, but I will soon, hopefully. The time has come to face my emotions and I need professional help to do that.

Last but not least, I will finally try the floating tank, which was presented to me by a very dear friend, some time ago. I think I will benefit from that.

Of course it's going to be expensive and I will not be able to sustain all these treatments for very long, but for now, I have to try. The costs scare the hell out of me, to be honest, but I don't see another way right now, for I need help. Otherwise, there is a great chance that the cycle of relapses will repeat over and over again, I guess.

Well, that's it for day 6. Have a sober Friday, team!

happycampers 11-17-2017 08:29 PM

10 pm here and just finished the crazy plumbing job - with my hair in tact - LOL !!!
I'm exhausted, but really thankful it's done. Had the old ways calling , whispering " man, that was tough job , you should get a gram and chill , you deserve it ". My answer back - I Don't touch that stuff anymore- period. I notice every time a smoking thought comes, that's my standard reply and it just seems to go away then. It comes a knocking, but no one is answering the door anymore. I also just say to myself, It's just an old, conditioned thought that will play on for awhile, but it's just a thought and nothing more. Need to nip those whispers in the butt right away.
Going to bed tired, but happy. Have a great weekend team !

lynnmarie123 11-18-2017 08:03 AM

I'm almost 5 months clean and still get the whispers.
Dee, when did your whispers stop?

Dee74 11-18-2017 04:20 PM

Hi Lynn

I can't say for sure but my pot whispers lasted a lot longer than my alcohol ones.

It was probably a couple of years - not burning gnawing desires, just random wouldn't it be nice thoughts.

The scary thing was they sounded plausible.


lynnmarie123 11-18-2017 06:42 PM

Thanks Dee. I've been off alcohol for just over 2 years now and the thought of a drink make me feel like running away screaming. No desires (or a whisper) at all in that regard.
A couple years, eh? Oh, boy. *sigh* Good thing it's just the odd thought once in a great while rather than craving.
It's the plausibility that bothers me. But I keep playing the tape. The 'oh, just this one time' will turn into full blown day in and day out use. I'm not going back...ever! I've quit twice in a year's time after months of use. It's just too hard to do. I don't want to go through that hell again.
I'm done. Period.

Dee74 11-18-2017 07:13 PM

I smoked for 40 eyars tho, so from that perspective a couple of years isn;t that bad.

The good news is the thought of either booze or pot is repugnant to me now :)


Pacoloco 11-19-2017 11:07 AM

One week done :)

How are you doing, team?

lynnmarie123 11-19-2017 12:01 PM

Great! Had the opportunity to toke yesterday and passed on it. Staying strong!

Ajohnson 11-19-2017 01:29 PM

I got 68 days clean. Itís been tough but slowly getting better. I just feel stress and irritated half the time. Itís hard to adjust. Iím used to being high literally 24/7 unless Iím sleeping. Itís worth it to quit tho my body n mind is just going through changes. Getting high will just bring me back to square one and Iíll just regret it like the last time I relapsed. Anyone thinking of using again itís not worth it!

lynnmarie123 11-19-2017 04:08 PM

Ride though the stressful detox, Ajohnson. It'll get better, I am sure.
I have been feeling a peace of mind and physical well being that I haven't experienced in a very, very, long time, if ever. I'm sure it's because my body isn't constantly trying to detox, like it was when smoking and shortly after quitting. But it took a full 3 months to get there.
Glad you have joined our team! The more, the merrier.

Ajohnson 11-19-2017 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by lynnmarie123 (Post 6679021)
Ride though the stressful detox, Ajohnson. It'll get better, I am sure.
I have been feeling a peace of mind and physical well being that I haven't experienced in a very, very, long time, if ever. I'm sure it's because my body isn't constantly trying to detox, like it was when smoking and shortly after quitting. But it took a full 3 months to get there.
Glad you have joined our team! The more, the merrier.

Thanks for words of encouragement. I feel like Iím at my last stretch of detox and I just need to hold on a little bit longer. I feel like I will be experiencing that piece of mind and physically well being you are experiencing soon. Iím almost at 3 months! Thanks for sharing your experience, itís help reinsure me that Iím on the right track! It seriously helps thank you!

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