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Old 07-14-2013, 07:56 AM
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I tend to agree that addicts need to hit some kind of bottom where negative consequences outweigh the benefits addiction provides. For some people there may be none. The progressive illness has gone so far that they have reached a point of no return. Is it not our goal to prevent our addict to avoid reaching that point of no return? This I think can be done by a combination of a carrot and stick policy (provided the addict remains reachable). I don't think "all or nothing" thinking is what is needed here.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:17 AM
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From talking to my friends in recovery I can only equate it to something like me just getting sick and tired of being sick and tired of feeling like crap so I get off my butt and start exercising and eating better. You just do it when you are ready. It isn't the doctor yelling at you about your weight or whatever. It isn't even a fear of a heart attack. You are just done and ready.
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