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Old 05-21-2013, 10:58 PM
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Found some fentanyl patches

Today I took my 3 year old daughter to visit her dad who is supposed to be
clean.I had a strange feeling he wasn't clean and checked what I knew to be
a stash spot and found some fentanyl patches. He is a heroin addict but from
what I read on the internet they are like a synthetic heroin?
I also asked him to do a opiate test. I had bought them a while back but had
never asked him to take one. It had a faint positive line. He said it was
because of the poppy seeds on his bread.

I feel quite sad. I don't know what I'll tell my little girl but I don't want to see
her dad as much if he is on drugs.I also don't want him at our place or in my
car. She is really into him right now.She asks me to call him and asks me
if he can come to the playground with her...I want to make it as easy on her
as possible.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:02 AM
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I am always concerned that young children could stumble upon drugs of any kind and be in danger of eating them.

He has choices, do drugs or see his daughter. It's sad when they choose drugs and then leave the mama's to explain why a child cannot see their daddy.

My prayers go out for all of you.

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For a time, my AD used to chew Fentanyl patches to get high. It was heavy duty stuff and did not show up on regular urine tests for opiates since it was synthetic presumably. If you husband is using the patches, he is not clean IMO.
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My deceased ex used to scrape those patches & shoot it up. I know people do chew them. I'm sure where there is a will there is a way. I'd be very nervous having my child spend any time alone in his care.

Fentanyl Patch Can Be Deadly to Children

Fentanyl Patch Can Be Deadly to Children

"...26 cases of accidental exposure to fentanyl since 1997, most of them involving children younger than 2 years old. There have been 10 deaths and an additional 12 cases requiring hospitalization."
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Originally Posted by February13 View Post
Today I took my 3 year old daughter to visit her dad who is supposed to be
clean.I had a strange feeling he wasn't clean and checked what I knew to be
a stash spot and found some fentanyl patches. He is a heroin addict but from
what I read on the internet they are like a synthetic heroin?
I also asked him to do a opiate test. I had bought them a while back but had
never asked him to take one. It had a faint positive line. He said it was
because of the poppy seeds on his bread.

I feel quite sad. I don't know what I'll tell my little girl but I don't want to see
her dad as much if he is on drugs.I also don't want him at our place or in my
car. She is really into him right now.She asks me to call him and asks me
if he can come to the playground with her...I want to make it as easy on her
as possible.
My AXGF ate a quarter of a Fentanyl patch and nearly died. Those patches are extremely powerful.

This made me laugh out loud:

He said it was because of the poppy seeds on his bread.
Remember, if an active addict's lips are moving, he's lying.

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:34 AM
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I'm pretty sure poppy seed won't show up as opiates on a drug test.
From my experience, a faint line, any line, is a positive.
When people show positive they will make up any excuse in the book as to why it's not true. A fraction of a 1% of them are being honest.

I'd keep your daughter your number one priority .... her safety mostly.

I'm sorry for what you're going through. Sending love and hope and hugs.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:59 AM
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Typical addict not even smart enough to find a new stash spot. Fentanyl is EXTREMELY strong stuff. Much stronger than Heroin, but obviously dosage is way less. Unless he ate a couple of loaves of poppy seed bread another lame excuse, but obviously you knew that. That is why testing can be a waste of time and trusting your gut is the way to go. So sad for your little girl! Hold her tight!!!
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:42 AM
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(((((PaperDolls)))))

Actually poppy seeds can make a drug test appear positive:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/11/he...real.html?_r=0

But that does not change the fact (((((Februsry13))))) that you found Fentynal Patches.

You are the only Sane, Responsible adult that your daughter can rely on.

TRUST YOUR GUT!

Love and hugs,
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:47 AM
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laurie -- yes, but would a small amount (or any amount for that matter) show up as opiates? It's not opiates that would show, right?

And I got to thinking .... when I lived in sober living, of course you would be evicted for using or drinking. Not only that, you could be evicted for behaving like you had been using. If he's acting like it AND you found the patches who care what some test says.
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Ok, wait .... may be it is opiates but my last comment stands .... who cares what the test shows?!
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:15 AM
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Trust your gut instinct. If you know he is lying then maybe that should tell you something. It must be hard bringing a 3 year old in the mix, but you need to advocate for her. If you know it's not a safe environment, take her out of it until it becomes 100% safe. She will thank you in the long run.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:27 AM
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Fentanyl is used in the same way as morphine.
It is usually given to cancer patients or patients in severe pain, at least in the UK.
It is much more potent than morphine and it is absorbed through the skin.

The companies who make the patches have tried to manufacture them so that they cannot be abused. Do you know what make it is?

However, addicts do chew them or insert them rectally to get a faster hit.

I wish you well
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:05 PM
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I don't know what make they are. I also don't know if he is using them but I know that they only reason for him acquiring them is that he is using.

My little girl is never alone with her dad.

This is very hard. I have some summer plans for which I need her dad's cooperation (I need him to sign papers to allow me to take her across the country (by airline regulation) and across the border. Obviously my priority is to keep her safe and if that means cancelling our plans that's what we'll do but I am hoping we can still travel. So I don't want to **** him off and I don't want to break my little girl's heart and yet I don't want to have much to do with him while he is using.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:21 PM
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Between the Fentanyl patches and the positive test, he doesn't really sound clean. Plus, you said you had a "strange feeling that he wasn't clean," and those gut feelings are usually right!

I'm glad that she's never alone with him. It sounds like you feel that he feels some control over you because you want him to sign paperwork. That sounds really unfair of him. Will he only cooperate if he can see his daughter? If so, that's the kind of manipulation I wouldn't trust to be around her. Is there not another way to get around this? Do you have no other legal options? As a kid, my mom always put, "No contact with father," on my legal paperwork, and she never had trouble with me traveling. Although, I never had a passport or traveled out of the country.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:07 PM
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If he is actively using, he may not have the parental power over you that you think he does...Check into that with someone who knows. If it is risky to let your daughter be alone with him, it seems that he has little to stand on regarding your ability to travel with her. Check into it before assuming he has that power, that is all I am suggesting. So sorry for your troubles. Hang in there, and keep hugging your little one.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:22 AM
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Bluebelle and Gardenmama you probably are both right...

If he refused to sign the papers I could go to some family services place (I don't remember what it's called) and explain what the situation is. They would serve him with papers and at some point they might give me some legal papers allowing me to cross the border without his permission. I am flying in about 10 days and I am not sure I have the time I need to take care of this. There is more to it too but I'll keep it at that.
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