The addicts playbook....
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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"Those aren't fresh tracks I hated the sight of them so I started to scratch at the scars."
**i can't figure out how to really quote yet, sorry**
i fell for so much crap about marks on the arms.
"that was from an IV that someone messed up."
"i picked at a mole and this never went away."
"the cat scratched me. LOOK!" (yes, the cat never fails to scratch you in the EXACT same spot over and over...which just coincidentally is right on a vein.)
"i wear long sleeves because i'm ashamed of the scars...YOU even say things, see!"
"i would never shoot up into my hand! do you know how much damage i could do??" (never mind that all across the world, daily, people are getting IVs in their hands...)
"i know that looks bad, but it's not from shooting up."
"a horsefly bit me."
i could go on...pathetically....
**i can't figure out how to really quote yet, sorry**
i fell for so much crap about marks on the arms.
"that was from an IV that someone messed up."
"i picked at a mole and this never went away."
"the cat scratched me. LOOK!" (yes, the cat never fails to scratch you in the EXACT same spot over and over...which just coincidentally is right on a vein.)
"i wear long sleeves because i'm ashamed of the scars...YOU even say things, see!"
"i would never shoot up into my hand! do you know how much damage i could do??" (never mind that all across the world, daily, people are getting IVs in their hands...)
"i know that looks bad, but it's not from shooting up."
"a horsefly bit me."
i could go on...pathetically....
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 1,741
Originally Posted by washbe2 
I'll pay you back.
Get off my back.
Why do you always barrage me?
(CrazyBabie, give it enough time, when everything else runs out, you may be blamed. Took 20 years to get around to that one.)
Just need it til Friday.
I will not go back to jail!
Ill just blow my brains out.
I'm not going in a program.
You've been listening to that Naranon crap.
I did not take your ....whatever.
I promise I'll pay you back!
Baaahhhhh... Lone....eeee!
Get off my back.
Why do you always barrage me?
(CrazyBabie, give it enough time, when everything else runs out, you may be blamed. Took 20 years to get around to that one.)
Just need it til Friday.
I will not go back to jail!
Ill just blow my brains out.
I'm not going in a program.
You've been listening to that Naranon crap.
I did not take your ....whatever.
I promise I'll pay you back!
Baaahhhhh... Lone....eeee!
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 864
While I agree with cynical we have our own handbooks.
I think we might actually help them write theirs...
The more we participate in the madness with them, buying them lines, the more lines we are sure to get.
You want the truth, stop asking for it, looking for it and it becomes plain as day.
I never get this, the need to run through their lines and their denial when we have our own that we need to be concerned with. There was no lie told to me worse than the ones I was telling myself ... and also there was no lies told me that didn't show exactly what the truth was.
I think we might actually help them write theirs...
The more we participate in the madness with them, buying them lines, the more lines we are sure to get.
You want the truth, stop asking for it, looking for it and it becomes plain as day.
I never get this, the need to run through their lines and their denial when we have our own that we need to be concerned with. There was no lie told to me worse than the ones I was telling myself ... and also there was no lies told me that didn't show exactly what the truth was.
Getting there!!
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 5,750
Many of us do not have the recovery time under our belt that some have. We are still unraveling the years of chaos. We come together - so not to feel alone, to understand why we feel or felt the way we have, and to actually feel sane again.
If sharing the common lies by an addict is helping with that right now.....then so be it.
If sharing the common lies by an addict is helping with that right now.....then so be it.
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North West, England
Posts: 500
'What do you mean where have I been?! What the f*ck has it got to do with you?!'
Returning after 3 days missing, hundreds of £s blown, to me and our baby who had no food, no money. And this happened more than once!
Returning after 3 days missing, hundreds of £s blown, to me and our baby who had no food, no money. And this happened more than once!
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: TriState area
Posts: 60
How about: Im only itching so much bc I have posion ivy or bc Ive been working with insulation all day.
My eyes only look messed up bc I have been taking advil cold& sinus (or benadryl or suboxone that I bought off the street).
I keep itching my nose bc my nose hairs are too long, not bc I was snorting pills.
Your crazy and you need help, not me, your paranoid and negetive all the time.
I have learned from my previous recovery that I need to stay on the right side of the fence, that I know what I need to do, that I can not blow money, or steal, or lie anymore. I would never do that to you again.
maybe I should just end it all.
I paniced bc I just got a DUI thats why I pawned stuff (where the $ then??? hmmm)
I am going to lose my job and I dont care, (then crying/pretending to cry two min later)
If you cry I'm gonna leave, if you continue to nag me I'm gonna leave
I just want to do it one more time, then I'll stop
If you'd just stop bitch*ng at me for it, maybe I'll get bored with it and stop
I'm upset/sad/ mad/numb I need something to help me cope, I'm happy I need to celebrate I owe it to myself, Ive been doing so good I deserve a drink, after all alcohol was never a prob for me
The cops entrapped me, the cops took $ from my wallet, someone called the cops on me when I left the bar thats why I got pulled over for DUI (yep its all a consperacy theory!)
I have been doing so good not doing drugs and I just wanted to go to the bar every fri after work and relax with my co-workers, I work so hard that I deserve that (where does this sense of entitlement come from???)
I want help, I need your help, I have no will power
I'm in pain
etc etc etc there are millions apon millions of lines from my AH
Now how about some lies I tell myself:
Maybe he's telling the truth
He loves me enough to stop, our marriage means something to him
If I yell or push enough he'll see the light and stop
If I ignore him or give him the silent treatment or cry he'll see what I am feeling and maybe have some compassion for me
If I stay it will get better
I can fix this/ I can handle this
Things will get better
Oh there are so many more I tell myself, but that lil voice in my head knows I am lying to myself.
My eyes only look messed up bc I have been taking advil cold& sinus (or benadryl or suboxone that I bought off the street).
I keep itching my nose bc my nose hairs are too long, not bc I was snorting pills.
Your crazy and you need help, not me, your paranoid and negetive all the time.
I have learned from my previous recovery that I need to stay on the right side of the fence, that I know what I need to do, that I can not blow money, or steal, or lie anymore. I would never do that to you again.
maybe I should just end it all.
I paniced bc I just got a DUI thats why I pawned stuff (where the $ then??? hmmm)
I am going to lose my job and I dont care, (then crying/pretending to cry two min later)
If you cry I'm gonna leave, if you continue to nag me I'm gonna leave
I just want to do it one more time, then I'll stop
If you'd just stop bitch*ng at me for it, maybe I'll get bored with it and stop
I'm upset/sad/ mad/numb I need something to help me cope, I'm happy I need to celebrate I owe it to myself, Ive been doing so good I deserve a drink, after all alcohol was never a prob for me
The cops entrapped me, the cops took $ from my wallet, someone called the cops on me when I left the bar thats why I got pulled over for DUI (yep its all a consperacy theory!)
I have been doing so good not doing drugs and I just wanted to go to the bar every fri after work and relax with my co-workers, I work so hard that I deserve that (where does this sense of entitlement come from???)
I want help, I need your help, I have no will power
I'm in pain
etc etc etc there are millions apon millions of lines from my AH
Now how about some lies I tell myself:
Maybe he's telling the truth
He loves me enough to stop, our marriage means something to him
If I yell or push enough he'll see the light and stop
If I ignore him or give him the silent treatment or cry he'll see what I am feeling and maybe have some compassion for me
If I stay it will get better
I can fix this/ I can handle this
Things will get better
Oh there are so many more I tell myself, but that lil voice in my head knows I am lying to myself.
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 2,282
I don't know if I had any favorites.
They were all equally unbelievable!
...I must remind myself daily that it takes TWO
to perpetrate a lie.One to originate the bank draft,
and the other to cash it.
...I think I'll print "$20" on a piece of box cardboard and
try to buy stuff on craigslist with it----and see how far I
get?!?!?
..Or failing that,just try to cash it at the bank!
They were all equally unbelievable!
...I must remind myself daily that it takes TWO
to perpetrate a lie.One to originate the bank draft,
and the other to cash it.
...I think I'll print "$20" on a piece of box cardboard and
try to buy stuff on craigslist with it----and see how far I
get?!?!?
..Or failing that,just try to cash it at the bank!
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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It is empowering to read from this playbook. We cannot risk being gullible with an addict.
We believe them because all of our lives people said the very same things to us and those things were true:
I have the flu.
I hit my head.
I scratched my arm.
I wrecked my car.
I lost my job.
I lost my cellphone.
I completely forgot to call you.
I ran out of cash.
I forgot to make the house payment.
I'm stuck in traffic.
I fell asleep.
I think I'm allergic.
I'll be back in a second.
We have from birth heard such words from others and quite naturally believed them, and in fact they were always the truth.
Until we met the addict.
It takes a lot of lies before we know we are with a liar.
We believe them because all of our lives people said the very same things to us and those things were true:
I have the flu.
I hit my head.
I scratched my arm.
I wrecked my car.
I lost my job.
I lost my cellphone.
I completely forgot to call you.
I ran out of cash.
I forgot to make the house payment.
I'm stuck in traffic.
I fell asleep.
I think I'm allergic.
I'll be back in a second.
We have from birth heard such words from others and quite naturally believed them, and in fact they were always the truth.
Until we met the addict.
It takes a lot of lies before we know we are with a liar.
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 924
My cell phone battery died.
I dropped my cell phone off the roof.
I turned the ringer off on my cell phone.
I forgot my cell phone at the SLE when I went out.
My cell phone isn't working right.
I fell asleep and my cell phone didn't ring for some reason.
I left my cell phone in the car.
I wasn't getting reception on my cell phone.
yep...this list is just the lies about the cell phone...the list goes on and on for every aspect of his life...hours lost, money, job, school, family relations, sponsors, meetings, therapist...etc etc etc.
I dropped my cell phone off the roof.
I turned the ringer off on my cell phone.
I forgot my cell phone at the SLE when I went out.
My cell phone isn't working right.
I fell asleep and my cell phone didn't ring for some reason.
I left my cell phone in the car.
I wasn't getting reception on my cell phone.
yep...this list is just the lies about the cell phone...the list goes on and on for every aspect of his life...hours lost, money, job, school, family relations, sponsors, meetings, therapist...etc etc etc.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: monroe michigan
Posts: 35
I think I'm gonna be sick. I have of course heard about 90% of these. The bad part is I actually believed 50% of them. Not thinking one had anything to do with the other. Bahaha. I must have SUCKER written on my forhead. I mean how can one person be so gullable. Oh Freedom how I fear thee.
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"smoking (K2 ) helps the pain in my feet, wouldnt you rather I did that then get addicted to pain pills?!"
"I'm don't have a problem, you have the problem.. You need to change your language and stop calling it drugs."
"you are overreacting, have you thought about being checked out for schizophrenia?"
"when you said you wouldn't talk to me, I was ready to put my gun in my mouth and blow my brains out."
"you give me sympathy but not enough sympathy, I don't think you really care about what ive been through."
"I'm don't have a problem, you have the problem.. You need to change your language and stop calling it drugs."
"you are overreacting, have you thought about being checked out for schizophrenia?"
"when you said you wouldn't talk to me, I was ready to put my gun in my mouth and blow my brains out."
"you give me sympathy but not enough sympathy, I don't think you really care about what ive been through."
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