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theres choices we all can make. stay in the problem and live with insanity or get into the solution and live wiith sanity.
if we arent part of the problem and we arent part of the solution then it isnt our problem and until we get away from insanity, we make the choice to be insane ourselves.
if we arent part of the problem and we arent part of the solution then it isnt our problem and until we get away from insanity, we make the choice to be insane ourselves.
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Originally Posted by pinkchampagne 
If I leave him now then I will feel like I am abandoning him. He said that if youlvoe someone you don’t walk away when they are facing one of the worst times of their life. He said that if I left then I didn’t believe in him and that we couldn’t have a future toghether if I didn’t. He said if I thought he did that to the girl and left her there knowing she was dying all tied up then he didn’t want to be with me anyway. He said he understands im scared but we have to stick together and I cant turn on him. He promises this will all go away and they will officially clear him and it will be done.
But now after hearing him and his dad talking about what the attorney said Im not sure he is going to give a dna sample voluntarily . Ther is something about waiting to see if they could even get a warrant because they don’t have enough evididence since he has proof he wasn’t close by. The attorney will make the decision I think.
he is with his parents right now and I walked nback here to give them some privacy and no Im not wearing my bikini today so haterz please don’t insult me for that again.
But now after hearing him and his dad talking about what the attorney said Im not sure he is going to give a dna sample voluntarily . Ther is something about waiting to see if they could even get a warrant because they don’t have enough evididence since he has proof he wasn’t close by. The attorney will make the decision I think.
he is with his parents right now and I walked nback here to give them some privacy and no Im not wearing my bikini today so haterz please don’t insult me for that again.
Go home.
His parents seem to have a vested interested in keeping this all under wraps, too.
The other thing -- be careful about what you write about this case here on the internet. I seriously doubt his attorney would be very pleased.
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it is also quite possible that he brought you along as a "beard"...
with you there, a sweet naieve young woman who loves him...he feels just a little safer behind the "beard"...the shield of you. how can he possibly be so bad if someone so sweet loves him? this is what it looks like from an objective stance. he doesn't want you to leave because he would be left standing alone with HIS consequences. his parents could say whatever they want to without waiting for a moment of privacy. you make him look good, you are a buffer
plus he keeps wanting to send you shopping...like a bandaid, like a distraction, like a typical addict. just go shop (use, gamble, eat, smoke, dring...whatever) instead of really FEEL what is happening, PROCESS what the reality is, and THINK about what is really best for you. he sent you shopping before you went, and he wants to send you shopping now...shopping is its own addiction/distraction and he is encouraging it as a way to deflect and distract from his reality
is his money part of the factor in your prince? money has power and danger...if it is part of what is drawing you in then you are way more closely akin to the dead girl than you think.
with you there, a sweet naieve young woman who loves him...he feels just a little safer behind the "beard"...the shield of you. how can he possibly be so bad if someone so sweet loves him? this is what it looks like from an objective stance. he doesn't want you to leave because he would be left standing alone with HIS consequences. his parents could say whatever they want to without waiting for a moment of privacy. you make him look good, you are a buffer
plus he keeps wanting to send you shopping...like a bandaid, like a distraction, like a typical addict. just go shop (use, gamble, eat, smoke, dring...whatever) instead of really FEEL what is happening, PROCESS what the reality is, and THINK about what is really best for you. he sent you shopping before you went, and he wants to send you shopping now...shopping is its own addiction/distraction and he is encouraging it as a way to deflect and distract from his reality
is his money part of the factor in your prince? money has power and danger...if it is part of what is drawing you in then you are way more closely akin to the dead girl than you think.
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Oh sweetheart, I could cry for you. This is so so bad. He's so manipulative. If he was the 'nice guy' he wouldnt be dragging you into all of this. He wouldn't havr brougjt you along for this sick ride. The story has changed so so many times, I bet you feel compleyely lost and beeildered, right? He's got a RO against him, mention of domestic violence.. Did you know many batterers also rape? Mine did.
Please go home to your family and friends, he's acting like a complete ***** and if he was HALF the man he's convinced you that he is, he wouldn't be manipulating you into staying, he would UNDERSTAND. But he doesn't because it's all about him, nothing about you.
Please go home to your family and friends, he's acting like a complete ***** and if he was HALF the man he's convinced you that he is, he wouldn't be manipulating you into staying, he would UNDERSTAND. But he doesn't because it's all about him, nothing about you.
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Originally Posted by pinkchampagne
If I leave him now then I will feel like I am abandoning him. He said that if youlvoe someone you don’t walk away when they are facing one of the worst times of their life. He said that if I left then I didn’t believe in him and that we couldn’t have a future toghether if I didn’t. He said if I thought he did that to the girl and left her there knowing she was dying all tied up then he didn’t want to be with me anyway. He said he understands im scared but we have to stick together and I cant turn on him. He promises this will all go away and they will officially clear him and it will be done.
If he doesn't support that choice, it's evidence that he does not care for you the way you care for him.
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Im a beard in a bikini ? That one was funny. I never heard of word beard used in that way. All of your comments are a lot to take in. I know you all know a lot about addiction and addicts and how they act, and how they lie and manipulate. But I don’t know about that stuff. I know what he has told me about his past, and I have now read from the police report about what happened to the girl. The life that I see that he must have been living four or five years ago seems disgusting and I wouldn’t want any part of living like that. I guess when I first came here I didn’t have as much thought about the girl that died because I couldn’t relate to who she might have been as a person and you guys have showed me that.
I have been thinking a lot about going home since yesterday because Im scared mostly and all of this feels very uncomfortable and dirty. I can look at what he said to me two ways like he wants me to stay and is manipulating me to give him comfort, make him look better, buffer his parents, or I can imagine how I would feel if I had a bad life 4 years ago, changed, met someone, fell in love, wanted to have a future, and then something bad comes back from my past. I mean I would be so hurt if he walked out on me and said hey, this is some heavy sh*t and maybe after a year I don’t know you , and maybe you are really this bad person, and I cant trust you, I cant believe you. I need the police to prove you innocent and then what? If he didn’t trust me now, I mean what does that say about our being together?
Maybe Im not as mature as a lot of you. But I wouldn’t want someone I love to leave me alone to deal with my past problems all alone. I wouldn’t expect them to save me because whatever I did, I did. But I would want him to believe in me until there was some evidence that I am lying, or using him or something. Not just because this is heavy sh*t and he is uncomfortable.
Does anyone understand that ? How is that wrong? We cant walk away from those we love whenever something bad or unexpected happens. That is what he meant when he said we had to stick together, that is what he meant when he said if I leave then we are over. I understand his feelings because that shows more of my character, and that I only want the good times and the fun times, and I will walk if things get tough.
Do you see how confusing it is? Its easy to say well he should want you to go home. But if Im home I wont know what is going on and I will still be upset, and worse I will feel like I abandoned him when he needed me. He isn’t a child or a puppy but he does have feelings and grown men do get scared and need love too.
He isn’t going back to the police station today. We went out for lunch and we are going to spend the rest of the day together and try to have some fun. he isnt against giving his dna, but he has to do whatever the attorney advises, and right now they are telling him no. Maybe I have said too much out here I didn’t think about it when I came on here that it could be bad for him. Im afraid now to tell him because he might get mad at me for talking to all of you like that was stupid. Everything Im doing is dumb lately.
LovemeNot, You asked sort of how he felt about all this and how
much respect he had for that girl and did he refer to her as a ho. when he told me about her originally he seemed to feel bad for her and like he cared because she was so messed up and he tried to help her. That was all before we knew she had died. Lately I think he regrets trying to help her, and he thinks she was a lost cause and he was stupid to have got involved in any way with her, and he did use some names worse than ho. I think I toned it down. And someone made the comment that he was like a dealer and he used her and gave her drugs and also loaned her out to his friends. I think more it was like he was a friend and she was loaned to him, and he felt bad for her and tried to help. The whole twisted sex thing makes me sick, but he has never acted that way with me. I mean he hasn’t asked or wanted anything remotely porno style. He is the opposite very gentle and kind. Its like that post about dr Jeckyl and Hide I read because this guy from years ago I don’t see here now. And some of you say there is a chance that guy could come back because he may still be using drugs but it is under control, and I don’t know how to tell.
I have a lot to think about but thank you all for being so kind and telling me what you think and I really feel like you have no motive but to save me pain you have felt and that alone makes me want to believe what you are saying. I am feeling guilty now about not telling my parents what is going on. I just don’t know how to do that without them being afraid for me being here and then hating him even if he is cleared of all this.
Last night I kept saying that serenity prayer when I was outside alone in the chair after we argued. It did bring me some peace because I know I have to accept this situation and as someone told me I have to be ok either way things go with this and Im trying to imagine that right now.
I have been thinking a lot about going home since yesterday because Im scared mostly and all of this feels very uncomfortable and dirty. I can look at what he said to me two ways like he wants me to stay and is manipulating me to give him comfort, make him look better, buffer his parents, or I can imagine how I would feel if I had a bad life 4 years ago, changed, met someone, fell in love, wanted to have a future, and then something bad comes back from my past. I mean I would be so hurt if he walked out on me and said hey, this is some heavy sh*t and maybe after a year I don’t know you , and maybe you are really this bad person, and I cant trust you, I cant believe you. I need the police to prove you innocent and then what? If he didn’t trust me now, I mean what does that say about our being together?
Maybe Im not as mature as a lot of you. But I wouldn’t want someone I love to leave me alone to deal with my past problems all alone. I wouldn’t expect them to save me because whatever I did, I did. But I would want him to believe in me until there was some evidence that I am lying, or using him or something. Not just because this is heavy sh*t and he is uncomfortable.
Does anyone understand that ? How is that wrong? We cant walk away from those we love whenever something bad or unexpected happens. That is what he meant when he said we had to stick together, that is what he meant when he said if I leave then we are over. I understand his feelings because that shows more of my character, and that I only want the good times and the fun times, and I will walk if things get tough.
Do you see how confusing it is? Its easy to say well he should want you to go home. But if Im home I wont know what is going on and I will still be upset, and worse I will feel like I abandoned him when he needed me. He isn’t a child or a puppy but he does have feelings and grown men do get scared and need love too.
He isn’t going back to the police station today. We went out for lunch and we are going to spend the rest of the day together and try to have some fun. he isnt against giving his dna, but he has to do whatever the attorney advises, and right now they are telling him no. Maybe I have said too much out here I didn’t think about it when I came on here that it could be bad for him. Im afraid now to tell him because he might get mad at me for talking to all of you like that was stupid. Everything Im doing is dumb lately.
LovemeNot, You asked sort of how he felt about all this and how
much respect he had for that girl and did he refer to her as a ho. when he told me about her originally he seemed to feel bad for her and like he cared because she was so messed up and he tried to help her. That was all before we knew she had died. Lately I think he regrets trying to help her, and he thinks she was a lost cause and he was stupid to have got involved in any way with her, and he did use some names worse than ho. I think I toned it down. And someone made the comment that he was like a dealer and he used her and gave her drugs and also loaned her out to his friends. I think more it was like he was a friend and she was loaned to him, and he felt bad for her and tried to help. The whole twisted sex thing makes me sick, but he has never acted that way with me. I mean he hasn’t asked or wanted anything remotely porno style. He is the opposite very gentle and kind. Its like that post about dr Jeckyl and Hide I read because this guy from years ago I don’t see here now. And some of you say there is a chance that guy could come back because he may still be using drugs but it is under control, and I don’t know how to tell.
I have a lot to think about but thank you all for being so kind and telling me what you think and I really feel like you have no motive but to save me pain you have felt and that alone makes me want to believe what you are saying. I am feeling guilty now about not telling my parents what is going on. I just don’t know how to do that without them being afraid for me being here and then hating him even if he is cleared of all this.
Last night I kept saying that serenity prayer when I was outside alone in the chair after we argued. It did bring me some peace because I know I have to accept this situation and as someone told me I have to be ok either way things go with this and Im trying to imagine that right now.
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you know, the best way to handle difficult and confusing situations is to think what you would say to a friend if she told you this story. i know your heart is telling you that you love this guy, but all of a sudden there is all this turmoil and you feel obviously uneasy. what he said to you about him wanting you to stay is complete manipulation. go research it. its all about turning the situation around to make sure the other person is feeling guilty for wanting something. if he truly cared for you, he'd be understanding at how terrifying and confusing a time this was and be supportive of you wanting some space to think, but also letting you know that he would really love it if you stayed as your support means a lot to him.
if it helps you understand, i came here to bring up some fears and concerns i had about my bf. he had a bad past that he still won't share with me fully, and he continued to use LSD a few times a year and wanted to continue to do so indefinitely. he told me half truths and believed that by only answering the question in an exact manner, then he wasn't technically lying. beside the fact he knew what i was really getting at. there were red flags coming up all over the place for me too. not meeting his friends and all of them still involved in drugs, the deception, the lies. he too is a sweet and loving guy, has a great job, his own place, and was very much wanting him and i to work out. but he was immature around his friends, and as people have indicated, drug addicts don't mature much past from when they start taking drugs. he was in HS. any of this seeming similar. i too have no idea about this world. i felt confused and conflicted about what to do. i didn't tell my family about his drug habit for i didn't want them to think i was an idiot for dating such a guy, but i wanted to believe in giving someone a fair chance to change. and don't get me wrong, I'm sure he has changed since he used, and has done some growing up since then too, but he doesn't want to give up his drugs or his drug friends. the people on this site helped me sort through this minefield from heart to reality, and it has taken me a week to realise that his life of even occasional drug use was not the one for me. and i didn't have the added stress of a murder investigation to deal with.
pink go home. talk to your family and friends, and you will get the same advise. I'm sure he is a lovely guy, and has done a lot of change, but I'm guessing he has no intention of ever stopping his drug use no matter how few times he takes it. as i said to someone else here, unless you put yourself above his love for drugs why should he. i ended my 6month relationship with my bf last night because his love for drugs and his past ties were always going to win above me. why would i want to be with someone who didn't put me first?
hope it works out for you.
if it helps you understand, i came here to bring up some fears and concerns i had about my bf. he had a bad past that he still won't share with me fully, and he continued to use LSD a few times a year and wanted to continue to do so indefinitely. he told me half truths and believed that by only answering the question in an exact manner, then he wasn't technically lying. beside the fact he knew what i was really getting at. there were red flags coming up all over the place for me too. not meeting his friends and all of them still involved in drugs, the deception, the lies. he too is a sweet and loving guy, has a great job, his own place, and was very much wanting him and i to work out. but he was immature around his friends, and as people have indicated, drug addicts don't mature much past from when they start taking drugs. he was in HS. any of this seeming similar. i too have no idea about this world. i felt confused and conflicted about what to do. i didn't tell my family about his drug habit for i didn't want them to think i was an idiot for dating such a guy, but i wanted to believe in giving someone a fair chance to change. and don't get me wrong, I'm sure he has changed since he used, and has done some growing up since then too, but he doesn't want to give up his drugs or his drug friends. the people on this site helped me sort through this minefield from heart to reality, and it has taken me a week to realise that his life of even occasional drug use was not the one for me. and i didn't have the added stress of a murder investigation to deal with.
pink go home. talk to your family and friends, and you will get the same advise. I'm sure he is a lovely guy, and has done a lot of change, but I'm guessing he has no intention of ever stopping his drug use no matter how few times he takes it. as i said to someone else here, unless you put yourself above his love for drugs why should he. i ended my 6month relationship with my bf last night because his love for drugs and his past ties were always going to win above me. why would i want to be with someone who didn't put me first?
hope it works out for you.
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Personally, if I was in a horrible situation that I'd brought on myself through past actions, I wouldn't want to drag an innocent person through it with me. I don't think it'd say anything about your character if you left. One year into a relationship isn't supposed to be sad and scary and murder investigations. It's supposed to be fun and lovely.
If he can't understand that you might not want to stick around for this show, that says way more about him than you IMO.
There is always a chance 'that guy' could come back. My ex actually his that he was 'that guy' for a year or so, I didn't even know he was an addict, but it didn't change things. He's still a perpetrator and he's still a nasty man. I thought he was wonderful for a really long time, it was an act. He's not mr wonderful, he's not even mr half alright.
If he can't understand that you might not want to stick around for this show, that says way more about him than you IMO.
There is always a chance 'that guy' could come back. My ex actually his that he was 'that guy' for a year or so, I didn't even know he was an addict, but it didn't change things. He's still a perpetrator and he's still a nasty man. I thought he was wonderful for a really long time, it was an act. He's not mr wonderful, he's not even mr half alright.
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Originally Posted by pinkchampagne
He isn’t going back to the police station today. We went out for lunch and we are going to spend the rest of the day together and try to have some fun. he isnt against giving his dna, but he has to do whatever the attorney advises, and right now they are telling him no.
What is the attorney's rational for refusing the test?
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Originally Posted by outtolunch
He no longer lived at the crime scene and was not there when she died. His DNA would prove he was not the last person with her. That his attorney advises him not to be tested sounds like there may be more to this story than he has told you.
What is the attorney's rational for refusing the test?
What is the attorney's rational for refusing the test?
I dont know much about DNA testing, but can they tell who was with her LAST? I know that sounds bad, but can they age DNA samples. Or how long does DNA show up from an encounter I wonder? Maybe that is what they are afraid of. I mean if it wasnt him, then what if traces were found from their last encounter which was how much earlier?
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I hope I don't offend anyone with my post. I apologize now if I hurt anyone because it is not my intention.
I have been following your story Pink and it can't help but remind me of one of my friends in college. He was an upper crust rich kid that was quite the street smart guy. Everyone loved him and he could charm and hang with every social class with ease. His parents had a lot of money, belong to the best country club and made sure their golden boy never ruined his "potential".
He was also the campus drug dealer and pimp. He hung out with his suppliers and loved going to the sleazier strip clubs. He loved, and I mean loved the lower class girls. He lived his double life for quite a while until his parents finally had enough of his arrests and girlfriends that were not his "equal". They bailed him out of several drug and pandering episodes by hiring the best lawyers.
He "turned out" more naive and wrong side of the track girls than I can remember in school. One poor girl had to leave school after he "tried to help her" better herself. She ended up leaving school to go to rehab and to have an abortion. His parents were not amused when he brought some of them home. After they bought him out of his last trouble they made sure he got the "right job" with one of their connections when he graduated from college(which they kept him from getting kicked out of because of their connections).
His parents made sure he graduated college from a respectable college. They made sure he got the right job and finally they made sure he married the right girl.
Please be careful. His parents and their attorney seem to be calling the shots. Trust your gut. Go home where you are safe.
I have been following your story Pink and it can't help but remind me of one of my friends in college. He was an upper crust rich kid that was quite the street smart guy. Everyone loved him and he could charm and hang with every social class with ease. His parents had a lot of money, belong to the best country club and made sure their golden boy never ruined his "potential".
He was also the campus drug dealer and pimp. He hung out with his suppliers and loved going to the sleazier strip clubs. He loved, and I mean loved the lower class girls. He lived his double life for quite a while until his parents finally had enough of his arrests and girlfriends that were not his "equal". They bailed him out of several drug and pandering episodes by hiring the best lawyers.
He "turned out" more naive and wrong side of the track girls than I can remember in school. One poor girl had to leave school after he "tried to help her" better herself. She ended up leaving school to go to rehab and to have an abortion. His parents were not amused when he brought some of them home. After they bought him out of his last trouble they made sure he got the "right job" with one of their connections when he graduated from college(which they kept him from getting kicked out of because of their connections).
His parents made sure he graduated college from a respectable college. They made sure he got the right job and finally they made sure he married the right girl.
Please be careful. His parents and their attorney seem to be calling the shots. Trust your gut. Go home where you are safe.
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Zoenob - Great post. I too have known similar families - rich, powerful, well connected, families who literally bought their kid's future. In most cases, it always ended up being a bad investment.
My father told me "if you ever get arrested, don't even think of calling me." I never got arrested but I knew he meant it. I knew I would be on my own. He would no more hire an attorney for me either, much less attend any of my appointments.
Uncaring? No!! Enabler? No He was just a by the book kind of man...You do the crime, you do the time.
The Scott Peterson, Joran van der Sloot, and Casey Anthony's of this world may have turned out very differently, if someone had actually said NO to them...a long time ago.
My father told me "if you ever get arrested, don't even think of calling me." I never got arrested but I knew he meant it. I knew I would be on my own. He would no more hire an attorney for me either, much less attend any of my appointments.
Uncaring? No!! Enabler? No He was just a by the book kind of man...You do the crime, you do the time.
The Scott Peterson, Joran van der Sloot, and Casey Anthony's of this world may have turned out very differently, if someone had actually said NO to them...a long time ago.
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money buys silence and hides a myriad of sins. makes me sick when parents enable their kids and their poor ethics and morals. and when they get into trouble they will do anything to make sure no one knows about their dirty secrets in order to keep their standing in their society. they are more concerned about "how it will look" rather than the crimes being committed and the people that are being hurt. they are more concerned about themselves, than they are about others.
pink is this the type of guy you want with you? one that will call a girl he once cared for names after she died what appears to be a terrible death. if he was out of town and can prove it, then he would be of no interest to the police. and if he had no connection to the crime then he would be happy to hand over a DNA test to exonerate himself, and his attorney would also be recommending that. as obviously his parents want this to go away as quickly as they can. but to refuse the test, means to me that there might be some cause for concern, and hence the attorney advise of refusing the test. this story stinks of corruption and manipulation. RUN RUN RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
pink is this the type of guy you want with you? one that will call a girl he once cared for names after she died what appears to be a terrible death. if he was out of town and can prove it, then he would be of no interest to the police. and if he had no connection to the crime then he would be happy to hand over a DNA test to exonerate himself, and his attorney would also be recommending that. as obviously his parents want this to go away as quickly as they can. but to refuse the test, means to me that there might be some cause for concern, and hence the attorney advise of refusing the test. this story stinks of corruption and manipulation. RUN RUN RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
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Pink please be cautious. You are a sweet girl and we see what you may not because you are too close to the fire.
You have been with him a year and this is the first time you have met his parents? Why hasn't he brought home before when he is such a big part of your family? You have lived with him for 6 months so I'm sure his parents know you have slept together, seems weird that y'all aren't sleeping in the "big house". His parents are polite to you because they have monied manners but they are not treating you with respect or even remotely close to being a future to be daughter-in-law. They pat you on the head and send you to the pool. They pat you on the head and send you to the pool house with snacks. They want you to take the spare car and go shopping. They are treating you like a 12 year old and not an adult. Trust me, they want you out of their hair. Your bf knows his parents and I'm sure he gets it. He will be in debt to them for the high powered attorney. When he said he didn't want be with you if you didn't believe him, I hope he isn't setting the stage for the demise of your relationship.
Please be careful. I hope I am wrong but I bet if you wanted to go home his parents would pay for your flight and a limo to take you to the airport faster than your head would spin.
You have been with him a year and this is the first time you have met his parents? Why hasn't he brought home before when he is such a big part of your family? You have lived with him for 6 months so I'm sure his parents know you have slept together, seems weird that y'all aren't sleeping in the "big house". His parents are polite to you because they have monied manners but they are not treating you with respect or even remotely close to being a future to be daughter-in-law. They pat you on the head and send you to the pool. They pat you on the head and send you to the pool house with snacks. They want you to take the spare car and go shopping. They are treating you like a 12 year old and not an adult. Trust me, they want you out of their hair. Your bf knows his parents and I'm sure he gets it. He will be in debt to them for the high powered attorney. When he said he didn't want be with you if you didn't believe him, I hope he isn't setting the stage for the demise of your relationship.
Please be careful. I hope I am wrong but I bet if you wanted to go home his parents would pay for your flight and a limo to take you to the airport faster than your head would spin.
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I am also taken back by the fact that an innocent man wouldn’t be standing up for himself and just giving a dna sample…really would love to know why the lawyer isn’t pushing this to just remove him from the suspect list. But then the lawyer, the parents and he himself were all in the room and have way more answers that you will pink champagne…
I do hope you can find the courage to tell your parents the truth and get yourself on a plane home. I know it will be hard but in all reality no one can safe you but you.
I do hope you can find the courage to tell your parents the truth and get yourself on a plane home. I know it will be hard but in all reality no one can safe you but you.
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I know this is nit picky (lol) but I wonder why both parents aren't at the lawyers office with THEIR son.
Why is the only the father going? Why is the mother staying home?
Just seems odd to me!! Too old school, when woman had "their place"...at home!!
Why is the only the father going? Why is the mother staying home?
Just seems odd to me!! Too old school, when woman had "their place"...at home!!
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Originally Posted by incitingsilence
I am also taken back by the fact that an innocent man wouldn’t be standing up for himself and just giving a dna sample…really would love to know why the lawyer isn’t pushing this to just remove him from the suspect list. But then the lawyer, the parents and he himself were all in the room and have way more answers that you will pink champagne…
Pink you are so upset you can't eat or sleep and you aren't the one under scrutiny. The fact your bf isn't acting this way is very very frightening. Doesn't it seem strange to you?
I sure as hell wouldn't be able to go have a great lunch and have fun the rest of the day knowing the police expected me to give a DNA sample at that moment because I could be under investigation for murder.
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