AS Ran Again
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still getting her voice mail, and it's 9pm here, but I'll be up late, and told her to call "whenever". HOPEFULLY, she is getting some sleep. I know her son is stable, 'cause I asked all the nosy nurse questions last night
I'm sure she can feel all the hugs wrapped around her, but I will pass along the good thoughts.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
I'm sure she can feel all the hugs wrapped around her, but I will pass along the good thoughts.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
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Okay, just got off the phone with Winnie.
AS may be released today, and would go to YDC, escorted by the Sheriff. She is NOT having to stay there so much because he is a flight risk, but because he is a minor and she is his mom. They are waiting for the main dr. to see him.
When asked why he ran, he says "because I'm a dumb-a$$". I told her we were discussing the flight risk thing and mentioned chaining him to Anvil and she laughed, said that may straighten him out.
If he ISN'T released today, I'm going up later and take them food. The kid is starving so I will take him something, too...yes, the hospital is feeding him, but I can't take Winnie something and not him. Again, if I'm being codie, shoot me.
He is getting scared, and reality is sinking in about the consequences. Winnie wasn't asleep when I tried to call...AS had her phone
but she sounds like her old self and she did get some rest.
She is going to try to get on the computers at the hospital, later, and check in herself. I did pass on the hugs, prayers, and good thoughts from everyone here.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
AS may be released today, and would go to YDC, escorted by the Sheriff. She is NOT having to stay there so much because he is a flight risk, but because he is a minor and she is his mom. They are waiting for the main dr. to see him.
When asked why he ran, he says "because I'm a dumb-a$$". I told her we were discussing the flight risk thing and mentioned chaining him to Anvil and she laughed, said that may straighten him out.
If he ISN'T released today, I'm going up later and take them food. The kid is starving so I will take him something, too...yes, the hospital is feeding him, but I can't take Winnie something and not him. Again, if I'm being codie, shoot me.
He is getting scared, and reality is sinking in about the consequences. Winnie wasn't asleep when I tried to call...AS had her phone
but she sounds like her old self and she did get some rest.She is going to try to get on the computers at the hospital, later, and check in herself. I did pass on the hugs, prayers, and good thoughts from everyone here.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
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Amy, thanks for keeping us up to date, and for bringing winnie (and yes, the boy-man too! ) something edible to keep body and soul together. Please pass on lots of love and hugs on my behalf too!
Lisa
) something edible to keep body and soul together. Please pass on lots of love and hugs on my behalf too!Lisa
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feeding people isnt codie Amy is just the thing to do........and hey even runaway kids need good food
plus your job has food any teen would love...........the banana split sippable sundae is the bestttttt
plus your job has food any teen would love...........the banana split sippable sundae is the bestttttt
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Originally Posted by liesagain 
the banana split sippable sundae is the bestttttt
and of course have something to eat.
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Thank you Amy for the update.
If you bring 'him' some food, make sure his is 1/2 protein and 1/2 good carbs ie fruit.
If you keep the protein and carbs equal then that SLOWS the rise in blood sugar. I know, this is how I have to eat, and have now for almost 10 years. lol
You are a good person and taking food is NOT being codie!!!!!
Love and hugs,
If you bring 'him' some food, make sure his is 1/2 protein and 1/2 good carbs ie fruit.
If you keep the protein and carbs equal then that SLOWS the rise in blood sugar. I know, this is how I have to eat, and have now for almost 10 years. lol
You are a good person and taking food is NOT being codie!!!!!
Love and hugs,
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well, darn...I didn't get to take him any food. He was released today...straight to YDC, which is the juvey jail. I REALLY did want to meet, him, too.
When I talked to Winnie, she was taking his medical supplies over to the jail. They go to court tomorrow to find out his sentence. It is the same judge who had given him this go at rehab as a "last chance" and she is NOT going to be happy. He's hoping (or in denial) for 3 months, Winnie and I are thinking more like 9 mos. to a year.
Winnie said she would be back to posting in the morning with her "saga". I begged her to get some rest tonight...her AND dd. He's safe and he's not going anywhere.
(((Laurie))) I WAS thinking of something mostly healthy for him to eat, promise. My restaurant is one of his and dd's favorite places to eat, so I was going to go there, but I was going to skip our famous milkshakes Now, I will just have to kidnap Winnie and dd, and take THEM there, once they get back into their routine.
Thanks, so much, for all the support for my dear friend, Winnie. My SR friends never cease to amaze me at helping each other through any situation.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
When I talked to Winnie, she was taking his medical supplies over to the jail. They go to court tomorrow to find out his sentence. It is the same judge who had given him this go at rehab as a "last chance" and she is NOT going to be happy. He's hoping (or in denial) for 3 months, Winnie and I are thinking more like 9 mos. to a year.
Winnie said she would be back to posting in the morning with her "saga". I begged her to get some rest tonight...her AND dd. He's safe and he's not going anywhere.
(((Laurie))) I WAS thinking of something mostly healthy for him to eat, promise. My restaurant is one of his and dd's favorite places to eat, so I was going to go there, but I was going to skip our famous milkshakes
Now, I will just have to kidnap Winnie and dd, and take THEM there, once they get back into their routine.Thanks, so much, for all the support for my dear friend, Winnie. My SR friends never cease to amaze me at helping each other through any situation.
Hugs and prayers!
Amy
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So where to start? first thank you so much for all your support, prayers, laughs (i still giggle thinking of him being chained to Anvilhead - that might be better than any rehab.)
The sheriff did arrest the one boy who had also hidden him out the last time. They wont be able to hold him long as it was just an obstruction of justice charge but he is in adult jail now. I believe they did that for me as we dont expect him to learn anything but at least i have had a little retribution knowing that he had to spend a few nights in jail.
We spent the few days at the hospital mostly in a calm state. He was very ill the first 24 hours - hooked up to IVs and in a lot of discomfort. When he did start feeling better the realities hit him - I stepped back and left him to his own thoughts. Nothing i said was going to get through to him anymore than his own emotions and thoughts would. He is dealing with an extreme amount of guilt and regret and knows that he brought this on himself. i was a neutral party. I asked no questions and i gave no advice. The last night was sleepless for him and i slept on and off - he was concerned for me and tried to keep the noise down because as he told the nurse i really needed to sleep. We got along well and kept things lighthearted - for a few moments i felt i was with my son. He did offer a few things on his own about the week and in the end he said he turned himself in because he was so ill that he knew he couldnt go on any longer. He learned a lot about his disease and i dont think he will ever try to live without insulin again.
Wed was hard because we didnt know at what time the docs would release him and the sheriff would come. Even the nurses were on edge as they understood that his release was not going to be the happy release they normally have. It was very hard when they finally signed the discharge papers. After two days of trying to get him stable the moment was upon us. I pulled him aside to say my last goodbyes but he turned away and just said "i cant look in your eyes mom." so we hugged and i told him i loved him. We both knew this would be the last time we would be together outside of jail.
They removed the IVs and the sherrif put the shackles on him in his room. I could not watch. They covered his shackels with a blanket so that it would not scare the children in the hospital. The nurse and social worker were there and were holding back tears themselves for both my son and I.
I had so much relief that he was alive and the mom in me just wanted to take him home and provide the followup care but instead I gave the discharge instructions to the sheriff. I pushed his wheelchair through the hospital to the sheriffs car parked out front. I have to admit that at one point the codie in me wanted to just run with the wheelchair because i wasnt ready to let go yet but of course i didnt. He did not speak the entire time - he just quietly did as he was told and got in the car.
He called me and we talked briefly and he asked me to visit. I told him i couldnt right now - i started to explain and he told me to stop because he understood and didnt need an explanation - he told me to just come when i am ready. I took his meds to the jail and today we will have his first hearing - not sure what will happen - I suspect the judge just wants to give him a piece of her mind but its doubtful she will sentence him yet.
I'm in a state of shock right now - so many emotions pouring through me that it will take a long time to sort through all of them. I go from worry about his physical needs to anger to relief to sadness that he wont be home for a long time. I think I really need to get some counseling right now just to help me figure out what it is that i'm feeling. i do know that my main feeling is gratitude - gratitude that he is alive and that HP did take this opportunity to teach him something - and gratitude that i have had so much support through this and didnt have to feel alone. I thank God that he turned himself in and I didnt find him first - this experience would have been useless if he hadnt given up on his own. I am also thankful that he did experience physical pain because that was needed for the lesson. It showed me that he does have feelings of self-preservation and gave up when he realized he was dying - now we know that he doesnt want to die and that is a huge relief to me.
So today I will do some work and then head back down to court to hear the judge pour out the details of what transpired over the last two weeks - a lot of which i'm sure i dont even know yet. When she asks to hear from me i probably wont say much because i dont trust my own emotions right now and need to leave this solely in the court's hands.
Then life will go on and somehow i'll figure out how to digest all of this and start my own life up again. I will catch up my work and sleep and eat and put one foot in front of the other each day until one day i wake up and this is a passing memory of a time in our life that taught great lessons and shaped who we all are. I pray that both he and i become stronger and wiser because of this experience and that we both seek life a little more and treat people a little better because of what we learned.
Thank you all for going through this with me and especially thank you Amy and Julie for being there for me in my darkest hour - Julie for understanding my feelings so well and Amy for making me laugh through the tears and being ready to jump to my aid at any moment. You are true friends and gifts from God.
The sheriff did arrest the one boy who had also hidden him out the last time. They wont be able to hold him long as it was just an obstruction of justice charge but he is in adult jail now. I believe they did that for me as we dont expect him to learn anything but at least i have had a little retribution knowing that he had to spend a few nights in jail.
We spent the few days at the hospital mostly in a calm state. He was very ill the first 24 hours - hooked up to IVs and in a lot of discomfort. When he did start feeling better the realities hit him - I stepped back and left him to his own thoughts. Nothing i said was going to get through to him anymore than his own emotions and thoughts would. He is dealing with an extreme amount of guilt and regret and knows that he brought this on himself. i was a neutral party. I asked no questions and i gave no advice. The last night was sleepless for him and i slept on and off - he was concerned for me and tried to keep the noise down because as he told the nurse i really needed to sleep. We got along well and kept things lighthearted - for a few moments i felt i was with my son. He did offer a few things on his own about the week and in the end he said he turned himself in because he was so ill that he knew he couldnt go on any longer. He learned a lot about his disease and i dont think he will ever try to live without insulin again.
Wed was hard because we didnt know at what time the docs would release him and the sheriff would come. Even the nurses were on edge as they understood that his release was not going to be the happy release they normally have. It was very hard when they finally signed the discharge papers. After two days of trying to get him stable the moment was upon us. I pulled him aside to say my last goodbyes but he turned away and just said "i cant look in your eyes mom." so we hugged and i told him i loved him. We both knew this would be the last time we would be together outside of jail.
They removed the IVs and the sherrif put the shackles on him in his room. I could not watch. They covered his shackels with a blanket so that it would not scare the children in the hospital. The nurse and social worker were there and were holding back tears themselves for both my son and I.
I had so much relief that he was alive and the mom in me just wanted to take him home and provide the followup care but instead I gave the discharge instructions to the sheriff. I pushed his wheelchair through the hospital to the sheriffs car parked out front. I have to admit that at one point the codie in me wanted to just run with the wheelchair because i wasnt ready to let go yet but of course i didnt. He did not speak the entire time - he just quietly did as he was told and got in the car.
He called me and we talked briefly and he asked me to visit. I told him i couldnt right now - i started to explain and he told me to stop because he understood and didnt need an explanation - he told me to just come when i am ready. I took his meds to the jail and today we will have his first hearing - not sure what will happen - I suspect the judge just wants to give him a piece of her mind but its doubtful she will sentence him yet.
I'm in a state of shock right now - so many emotions pouring through me that it will take a long time to sort through all of them. I go from worry about his physical needs to anger to relief to sadness that he wont be home for a long time. I think I really need to get some counseling right now just to help me figure out what it is that i'm feeling. i do know that my main feeling is gratitude - gratitude that he is alive and that HP did take this opportunity to teach him something - and gratitude that i have had so much support through this and didnt have to feel alone. I thank God that he turned himself in and I didnt find him first - this experience would have been useless if he hadnt given up on his own. I am also thankful that he did experience physical pain because that was needed for the lesson. It showed me that he does have feelings of self-preservation and gave up when he realized he was dying - now we know that he doesnt want to die and that is a huge relief to me.
So today I will do some work and then head back down to court to hear the judge pour out the details of what transpired over the last two weeks - a lot of which i'm sure i dont even know yet. When she asks to hear from me i probably wont say much because i dont trust my own emotions right now and need to leave this solely in the court's hands.
Then life will go on and somehow i'll figure out how to digest all of this and start my own life up again. I will catch up my work and sleep and eat and put one foot in front of the other each day until one day i wake up and this is a passing memory of a time in our life that taught great lessons and shaped who we all are. I pray that both he and i become stronger and wiser because of this experience and that we both seek life a little more and treat people a little better because of what we learned.
Thank you all for going through this with me and especially thank you Amy and Julie for being there for me in my darkest hour - Julie for understanding my feelings so well and Amy for making me laugh through the tears and being ready to jump to my aid at any moment. You are true friends and gifts from God.
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Winnie, I hope that you do get some counseling, hon.
I was devastated when my youngest took off in the middle of the night at age 15. Things had been falling apart for a long time, and every resource I turned to had failed me.
I know what it's like to see your child in shackles.
I'll never forget my first trip to the courthouse for a hearing and they brought her over from the jail in shackles. I thought my heart was going to rip into a million pieces.
I truly hope he takes something positive away from all of this. My daughter certainly did.
:ghug :ghug :ghug
I was devastated when my youngest took off in the middle of the night at age 15. Things had been falling apart for a long time, and every resource I turned to had failed me.
I know what it's like to see your child in shackles.
I'll never forget my first trip to the courthouse for a hearing and they brought her over from the jail in shackles. I thought my heart was going to rip into a million pieces.
I truly hope he takes something positive away from all of this. My daughter certainly did.
:ghug :ghug :ghug
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