Federales......
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Federales......
In a million years I never would have thought that my divorce case could end up in a federal court but yet here we are. This whole process has been surreal. I will have a better understanding of the charges after my meeting tomorrow. I just ask you guys pray for me this is soooo outside of my life's scope it doesn't feel real.
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dawnrising……I will be thinking about you.
I think that there is a long list of things that we all think...."This happens to other people, but not me"...…
Please let us know what happens...
We care about you....and, understand what a hall of bizarre mirrors this must feel like!!
I think that there is a long list of things that we all think...."This happens to other people, but not me"...…
Please let us know what happens...
We care about you....and, understand what a hall of bizarre mirrors this must feel like!!
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Originally Posted by Wombaticus 
Have you been give any idea of how long the process will take?
I dont understand the court system at all, but it sounds like a whole lot of complicated administration on top of feelings and hurt.
I dont understand the court system at all, but it sounds like a whole lot of complicated administration on top of feelings and hurt.
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Lets be real - I'm in a fog right now. I'm sure the effects will make themselves known for years to come, but "I didn't cause it, I can't change it, and I can't control it" applies very nicely to this aspect of my life as well.
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Originally Posted by dawnrising
"I didn't cause it, I can't change it, and I can't control it" applies very nicely to this aspect of my life as well.
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US federal criminal court requires charges to be filed by a US attorney on behalf of the US government department of justice. The plaintiff is the US government the defendant is whoever individual, individuals, or possibly corporation or combo of them all. Typically this process is started by the US attorney presenting evidence to a grand jury & getting them to issue an indictment
Your attorney's can file suit on your behalf in US federal civil court. Same goes for municipal or state civil court. In these civil cases you are the plaintiff & they are the defendant (s).
US attorneys can also file a civil case in federal court on behalf of the US government.
Your attorney's can file suit on your behalf in US federal civil court. Same goes for municipal or state civil court. In these civil cases you are the plaintiff & they are the defendant (s).
US attorneys can also file a civil case in federal court on behalf of the US government.
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Originally Posted by HardLessons
US federal criminal court requires charges to be filed by a US attorney on behalf of the US government department of justice. The plaintiff is the US government the defendant is whoever individual, individuals, or possibly corporation or combo of them all. Typically this process is started by the US attorney presenting evidence to a grand jury & getting them to issue an indictment
Your attorney's can file suit on your behalf in US federal civil court. Same goes for municipal or state civil court. In these civil cases you are the plaintiff & they are the defendant (s).
US attorneys can also file a civil case in federal court on behalf of the US government.
Your attorney's can file suit on your behalf in US federal civil court. Same goes for municipal or state civil court. In these civil cases you are the plaintiff & they are the defendant (s).
US attorneys can also file a civil case in federal court on behalf of the US government.
Yes this is exactly where we are at. Civil case filing in federal court on the violations of ERISA by company, criminal charges in federal court for both AH and company, material fraud and identity theft for both, and add aggravated perjury for AH. Talk went well 2 more meetings to go. Maybe an additional filing in the state for violating the state insurance code, which I found out tonight is not exempted by fed law on this issue. I can’t sleep imagine that........ I will say the dept of labor case worker is awesome. He called to give me some info and then asked me to send the actual highlighted versions. The company tried to justify their position with a case from 1969 which was overturned. My guy was pissed and said let’s make it real easy for the national office to understand, it will probably end up in court with the others. I am just amazed by the CYA mentality. They could have just corrrected it a long time ago.
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Generally speaking certainly not all the time when US attorneys are involved & have received an indictment from a grand jury they will proceed with the criminal case first. Depending on the outcome of that criminal case & what evidence was produced at trial they may then proceed with a civil case against part or the same defendants.
If they can win on a criminal case meaning found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt their likelihood of winning a civil case is good because the outcome of that case is determined by the preponderance of the evidence which is an easier test.
US attorneys in larger cities have bigger budgets & far more investigative resources at their disposal like the FBI than those working in more rural type areas. This can effect what actions they take depending on how difficult the case is. Their goal is to win & spend tax payer money wisely.
If they can win on a criminal case meaning found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt their likelihood of winning a civil case is good because the outcome of that case is determined by the preponderance of the evidence which is an easier test.
US attorneys in larger cities have bigger budgets & far more investigative resources at their disposal like the FBI than those working in more rural type areas. This can effect what actions they take depending on how difficult the case is. Their goal is to win & spend tax payer money wisely.
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Originally Posted by Seren
I can imagine it was hard to sleep, dawn...how are you feeling today? When do you have to go back to court, or is this a 'several days in a row' type of thing?
Good Lord, court next week for the divorce is not going to go well for him.
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Sometimes, the ego will simply not let go of the lies...because it would be an admission of failing. And "failure is not an option", smh. I'm sorry he digs his own hole deeper and deeper, but that's all on him. It will be a hard day for him, indeed, when all the lies come back to him.
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Originally Posted by Seren
Sometimes, the ego will simply not let go of the lies...because it would be an admission of failing. And "failure is not an option", smh. I'm sorry he digs his own hole deeper and deeper, but that's all on him. It will be a hard day for him, indeed, when all the lies come back to him.
, so our kids could experience both.
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