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Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 09:56 AM

Anxiety
 
have you ever heard of living with an alcoholic to cause Agoraphobia in someone? I’m experiencing anxiety driving lately, especially over open spaces that never bothered me before. Comments?

D122y 07-21-2019 10:32 AM

I had agoraphobia pretty fierce for a while. I was a drinker though.

I can only speculate that if a person does not drink that maybe it is a RX drug issue.

Otherwise, I have no idea.

I had no choice but to take the bull by the horns. I am pretty much still getting better. It has been 4 plus years since I quit being a drunk.

I take no other meds.

Thanks.

LifeChangeNYC 07-21-2019 10:34 AM

Honestly I think living with the insanity of alcoholism can create all sorts of anxiety-related health issues. Our obsessions with the alcoholics in our lives can truly hurt us, if we allow it to. I experienced so many negative health issues (on top of all that I was already suffering from....) from bleeding stomach ulcers to constant migraines. I also had increased anxiety & it manifested in all sorts of ways. So yes, I think real anxiety can kick in at any time! Many people consider the effects of living with an active alcoholic similar to PTSD. I agree. I have it, in many ways. All I can say is anxiety is real and it needs to be dealt with professionally. First, dealing with the constant obsession of thinking 24/7 about the alcoholic & alcoholism... that would drive anyone bonkers. I know, first hand.

Mango212 07-21-2019 11:30 AM

Ditto that.

Have you been to Al-Anon yet? Talking to mental health professionals who deal with addictions can also be very beneficial in validating the experiences you've had and are going though.

dandylion 07-21-2019 11:55 AM

Dazed....a good subject to bring up to your therapist, who you said you will be calling on Monday....tomorrow....

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by dandylion (Post 7231471)
Dazed....a good subject to bring up to your therapist, who you said you will be calling on Monday....tomorrow....

yes. Noted. Will discuss.

AnvilheadII 07-21-2019 12:50 PM

i had GAD - generalized anxiety disorder - and it would often pop up WHILE i was driving. best i could figure, i was finally by myself, in my little universe of wheels, kind of a "safe" place, and then the fear/anxiety would pop up. it wasn't the car or the traffic.

i'd just put both hands on the wheel, take some deep breaths, remind myself i was SAFE, and carry on.

saudade8277 07-21-2019 01:24 PM

Hi Dazed... figured I’d come out of my bubble and share some of that love you gave me on my thread :grouphug:

I don’t know about agoraphobia specifically, but I do firmly believe that living with alcoholism, addiction, or abuse of any kind keeps us on edge and anxious pretty much all the time. Have you noticed an increase in anxiety in any other circumstances?

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by saudade8277 (Post 7231527)
Hi Dazed... figured I’d come out of my bubble and share some of that love you gave me on my thread :grouphug:

I don’t know about agoraphobia specifically, but I do firmly believe that living with alcoholism, addiction, or abuse of any kind keeps us on edge and anxious pretty much all the time. Have you noticed an increase in anxiety in any other circumstances?

yes. Since this last bout I have anxiety. Racing heart, trouble sleeping. Deep breathing is helping walks and swimming too. It’s just a sadness, no energy, and then fear. I hate it

trailmix 07-21-2019 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Dazedandconfus (Post 7231424)
have you ever heard of living with an alcoholic to cause Agoraphobia in someone? I’m experiencing anxiety driving lately, especially over open spaces that never bothered me before. Comments?

I am very familiar with this. Alcoholic in your life or not, this needs to be addressed.

You already know that.

So, take it for what it is. Fear. But yes, please do get help. This can snowball so quickly from being scared periodically while driving or shopping to you being stuck in your house.

I hope you are venting your feelings. You don't have to be all strong and together you know, vent away here, scream in to your pillow, call your Dad, get extra time with your therapist, attend an Al-Anon meeting everyday, call your women's shelter to ask for support, they may have support meetings you can join there too. Look for divorce support groups - whatever it takes D.

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 02:09 PM

I’m so fracking angry!!!! He seems all together! His promises and apologies just **** me off more. I miss me. I was fun, gregarious, and productive. This is bs.

SparkleKitty 07-21-2019 02:12 PM

Hey, why not go and re-read your previous threads? The crazypants things he has done and said were not a million years ago, they were like...a couple of days ago. Yesterday. Who he is today is not who he is going to be forever. Real change takes MUCH MORE time than this.

Go for a walk. Pay attention to yourself, not him. You'll get you back, I promise, but it's going to take time and especially DISTANCE from him.

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by SparkleKitty (Post 7231567)
Hey, why not go and re-read your previous threads? The crazypants things he has done and said were not a million years ago, they were like...a couple of days ago. Yesterday. Who he is today is not who he is going to be forever. Real change takes MUCH MORE time than this.

Go for a walk. Pay attention to yourself, not him. You'll get you back, I promise, but it's going to take time and especially DISTANCE from him.

lol! I love the crazy pants line, like when he didn’t have any on and was gonna walk out the door, lol! Thanks for the reminder

trailmix 07-21-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dazedandconfus (Post 7231562)
I’m so fracking angry!!!! He seems all together! His promises and apologies just **** me off more. I miss me. I was fun, gregarious, and productive. This is bs.

Maybe he "seems" all together but from out here (not in crazy pants world) this is far far far away from all together.

His moods and promises or lack of promises flit around from one hour to the next. One minute he begs to stay, the next he is doing the oh so long "packing", one minute he will drink as he pleases! the next he is at an AA meeting.

There is nothing all together about this at all, not one bit.

I think you have been living in this dysfunction for so long that this seems kind of normal? I totally get that, we can all become accustomed to situations that are not ideal. Doesn't mean we like it, doesn't mean we are comfortable with it.

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by trailmix (Post 7231600)
Maybe he "seems" all together but from out here (not in crazy pants world) this is far far far away from all together.

His moods and promises or lack of promises flit around from one hour to the next. One minute he begs to stay, the next he is doing the oh so long "packing", one minute he will drink as he pleases! the next he is at an AA meeting.

There is nothing all together about this at all, not one bit.

I think you have been living in this dysfunction for so long that this seems kind of normal? I totally get that, we can all become accustomed to situations that are not ideal. Doesn't mean we like it, doesn't mean we are comfortable with it.

spot on. This is the crazy pants normal routine. Except this time divorce papers are in the mix, and that makes me feel stronger. Thank you trail, I value your insight.

Hawkeye13 07-21-2019 06:05 PM

Has he actually packed a single item? I think I'd pick up some empty boxes next time I was at a store and bring them back as a kind of subtle hint ;)

I'm so discreet that way you know. . .

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkeye13 (Post 7231678)
Has he actually packed a single item? I think I'd pick up some empty boxes next time I was at a store and bring them back as a kind of subtle hint ;)

I'm so discreet that way you know. . .

lol ! He has a few boxes packed and pictures off the wall in the office. The boxes are in the garage. I don’t know what his agenda is; seems like he is trying to reconcile, seems like he is waiting to see what his job brings. My head spins at how fast he would be packing if his job is offered in another place...so much for reconciliation and commitment. I don’t trust all this nice talk; I don’t trust the A.A. meetings ; I hope for his sake it’s real but I feel it is manipulation to try to stay here. I am not a plan b. I was looking over texts from a month ago when this started and the names he called me are obscene. The verbal battering, the tirades....he’s calm now but I’m no contact as much as possible. Divorce moving forward and he will have the required legal days to vacate. This is a freaking nightmare.

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 06:32 PM

I can smell it, he’s drinking again. I said nothing. And he went to A.A. today. Hard core.

Dazedandconfus 07-21-2019 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Dazedandconfus (Post 7231702)
I can smell it, he’s drinking again. I said nothing. And he went to A.A. today. Hard core.

probably why he doesn’t seem to broken up about this; he has his lover alcohol by his side. Good grief

Hawkeye13 07-21-2019 06:56 PM

Is the clock running on the 45 days already? Documented eviction notice, etc.?


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