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Same here- its this feeling of hopelessness. When you realise there is nothing you can do or could have done. I have tried my best once i fully realised there was a serious problem, so i initially offered to be there for him and offer an alternative life (which I now know he couldnt really appreciate to begin with). But later on I figured (when nothing changed on his part)- unless I leave and thus not enable him any longer, I am actually helping him with him perpetuating his disease. ANd I wouldnt EVER want that to happen. So the only solution was then to leave. I need to keep on reminding myself that, should we've stayed in a relationship, I would actually be enabling him. And in my eyes, thats NOT love.

Hope that helps a bit... Stay strong Daze:grouphug:

Yes Daze, stay strong and remember the why you are doing what you are doing.

Big hugs!

I was married for 18 years. I get Big Love, and I totally get that you are hurting. We will walk this with you!

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Hi DC,

Being aware of feelings is important. Help is available.

Dazed, I really don't think there is much that is more difficult than what you are going through (maybe losing a child might be harder but not by much).

Please keep doing everything you can to take care of yourself. Every hour you survive is a victory.

Inspite of the torturing hope, it is unlikely that he is going to get sober long term. He might but it won't be easy and he has one hell of a long way to go if he does truly enter into recovery.

I quit drinking last summer. I joined one of the monthly classes. When it started there were probably 20-30 people. Now there are about 7 of us who post regularly. Sobriety is a super easy thing to start with enthusiasm but to keep it going is tough . . . . I will say that some of my classmates found other means of support that worked for them.

Big hug to you.

He's just going to keep battering at you with different strategies--you are not a verbal punching bag to be manipulated and repeatedly hurt.

You need to get some physical, mental, and most especially emotional distance from him right now. This isn't doing you any good, and it sounds like he isn't giving up until he can get things back to his normal.

You see this, don't you?

I remember way back when. My ex was both abusive and an alcoholic. I think the thing that stood out for me the most was the abuse. Now, I can find some similarities there. They are both totally different, but the excuses are the same, the apologies are the same. First my ex would have me make up a list of things I wanted him to do around the house. I thought in order for him to do anything that I had to listen to his drunken abuse and the next day he would finally do something on the list. I told him that I wasn't going to play that game anymore, that's when he started to buy me presents to make up for his behavior. After about 5 presents, I told him that he wasn't going to buy me off anymore. I told him that I needed to see his actions. That's when the promises started, promises that were never kept for more then one week. I told him I didn't want to hear promises anymore, I wanted to see action. That's when he started to go really at me with "guilt trips". How I think I am Miss Perfect, that everything he does is wrong, that I will never forgive him anyway, how his father was like him and he never wanted to be like his father. That I should be more understanding, that I should give him another chance, that I am a b!tch.

Everyone's experience is different, but what you got right now is, poor me, poor me, pour me another drink drunk.

They learn the words to use to tear our hearts apart, we think they weren't hearing us, they were, they were saving it up for future references.

((((((((((hugs))))))))))
amy

Hello dazed,

I completely understand what you're feeling. My ex husband was unfaithful and started divorce proceedings against me. I would go from calm, assured, even bravado about the whole thing to absolutely desperately unhappy wanting his unfaithful self back. My mind always knew the right course, but my heart and emotions occasionally felt differently about the whole thing.

I'm so sorry you are at such a low point :hug:

If hope you will consider reaching out for help:

You are worth it!