So delusional, so in denial, I feel a fool.
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Most of us have been there Glenjo. We humans tend to be experiential learners so just hearing/reading something doesn't really process the way an experience does.
Unfortunately this guy may very well circle back to you when he runs out of other options. As he has experienced you taking him back, he will think he can do it again. I do hope he wanders off in some other direction but he may well try to contact you again.
So sorry your New Years Resolution seems to have been thrust in your face in a painful way . . .ugh.
Please be as kind to yourself as you can through these next days, weeks and months. What your are going through is no joke.
Unfortunately this guy may very well circle back to you when he runs out of other options. As he has experienced you taking him back, he will think he can do it again. I do hope he wanders off in some other direction but he may well try to contact you again.
So sorry your New Years Resolution seems to have been thrust in your face in a painful way . . .ugh.
Please be as kind to yourself as you can through these next days, weeks and months. What your are going through is no joke.
The articles written by Jim L might be of interest to you Glenjo, don't know if you have seen them:
Put away your claws and let go | Recovery Rocks
Put away your claws and let go | Recovery Rocks
He is beyond disrespectful. His actions display extreme narcissism bordering on being a sociopath. People aren't people to him, merely objects to be played with and hurt. The issues go far beyond his addiction, although if he ever does get sober, he will still be a sociopath. He probably has played similar games with anyone who has tried to treat his addiction.
He's not just a terrible person, he could be downright dangerous, and psychically he IS dangerous.
Be prepared for him to try and woo you back. Narcissists don't like to lose their victims, and can be highly engaging and desirable when they're trying to keep a victim in their clutches. Don't buy it. As soon as you relent and let him back in, he may be nice for a minute, but will hurt you again as soon as he feels that you won't leave.
Unfortunately his best response to you deleting him will be the cold shoulder. Hopefully he will just move on as well.
He's not just a terrible person, he could be downright dangerous, and psychically he IS dangerous.
Be prepared for him to try and woo you back. Narcissists don't like to lose their victims, and can be highly engaging and desirable when they're trying to keep a victim in their clutches. Don't buy it. As soon as you relent and let him back in, he may be nice for a minute, but will hurt you again as soon as he feels that you won't leave.
Unfortunately his best response to you deleting him will be the cold shoulder. Hopefully he will just move on as well.
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Thanks. Yes he comes high on psychopath scale apparently. I have blocked him and his cousin, deleted all numbers and going through pics now and deleting them. It was all false. All a farce. If he tries to make any other contact I will change my number.
Something has changed in me. He actually crapped all over me and although he did before, seeing him do it on new years eve with a girl (probably both laughing at me), has given me the wake up call I need.
Hopefully he won't be any wooing back as you mentioned and we both move on.
Something has changed in me. He actually crapped all over me and although he did before, seeing him do it on new years eve with a girl (probably both laughing at me), has given me the wake up call I need.
Hopefully he won't be any wooing back as you mentioned and we both move on.
This is really good to hear - great New Year's resolution.
As for both of you moving on - no way to affect whether he moves on or not, but you certainly have the power to move on, for yourself.
You are not a fool, glenjo. We all have to come to these realizations in our own time. While everyone here was telling you what you have finally come to accept, you just weren't ready yet. Many of us were guilty of thinking our situation was different...that others just didn't understand, and that our situation would turn out differently.
I am sorry you feel so hurt, but you will get better with time and most importantly, having no contact whatsoever with either him or his cousin. It's a new year...make it a year of taking the very best care of yourself!
I am sorry you feel so hurt, but you will get better with time and most importantly, having no contact whatsoever with either him or his cousin. It's a new year...make it a year of taking the very best care of yourself!
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This. Being sober is unlikely to change his behavior. The new woman is the new target/supply. He will use her too. The "plus" side of that is if he's busy manipulating/brainwashing/grooming her, he will have less time to harass/bully you cause he will have to spread his energy.
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Thanks for replies. I feel so vulnerable, as if I've been opened up and layed bare for all to see. I feel they were laughing at on New year's Eve together. Up to now I had felt my relationship with him was special in it's own way but now he's with someone from the same town as me!
I get anxious at the thoughts of seeing them together in local stores etc. Really wish he lived away from here again, like my face is being rubbed in it now. Any tips on how to manage this kind of stuff? Do I pretend he is gone, ignore him completely if I see him/her.
I get anxious at the thoughts of seeing them together in local stores etc. Really wish he lived away from here again, like my face is being rubbed in it now. Any tips on how to manage this kind of stuff? Do I pretend he is gone, ignore him completely if I see him/her.
Thanks for replies. I feel so vulnerable, as if I've been opened up and layed bare for all to see. I feel they were laughing at on New year's Eve together. Up to now I had felt my relationship with him was special in it's own way but now he's with someone from the same town as me!
I get anxious at the thoughts of seeing them together in local stores etc. Really wish he lived away from here again, like my face is being rubbed in it now. Any tips on how to manage this kind of stuff? Do I pretend he is gone, ignore him completely if I see him/her.
I get anxious at the thoughts of seeing them together in local stores etc. Really wish he lived away from here again, like my face is being rubbed in it now. Any tips on how to manage this kind of stuff? Do I pretend he is gone, ignore him completely if I see him/her.
The other fact is, you don't know that they were laughing "at" you, there were probably just being stupid and I assume they were drunk?
I would absolutely treat him as though he is not there at all, whether you see him or not. No need to acknowledge him if you meet him by chance.
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He hooked up with someone for a day, doesn't mean they are getting married. All I'm saying is don't make this out to be more than it is. Remember when you were wondering if you would meet him in an airport some day and he would have a wife and family with him when he was in fact busy getting thrown out of rehabs and living on the street?
The other fact is, you don't know that they were laughing "at" you, there were probably just being stupid and I assume they were drunk?
I would absolutely treat him as though he is not there at all, whether you see him or not. No need to acknowledge him if you meet him by chance.
The other fact is, you don't know that they were laughing "at" you, there were probably just being stupid and I assume they were drunk?
I would absolutely treat him as though he is not there at all, whether you see him or not. No need to acknowledge him if you meet him by chance.
Drunk and other things. He's found a new drinking/drugging buddy. He will in turn trash her and move on.
He's young and attractive and apparently quite seductive, rapidly reading your needs and providing them.
As narcissists grow older, their attraction and sexual magnetism fades and they usually end up alone and bitter, as nobody will have anything to do with them.
Time wounds all heels.
He's young and attractive and apparently quite seductive, rapidly reading your needs and providing them.
As narcissists grow older, their attraction and sexual magnetism fades and they usually end up alone and bitter, as nobody will have anything to do with them.
Time wounds all heels.
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Drunk and other things. He's found a new drinking/drugging buddy. He will in turn trash her and move on.
He's young and attractive and apparently quite seductive, rapidly reading your needs and providing them.
As narcissists grow older, their attraction and sexual magnetism fades and they usually end up alone and bitter, as nobody will have anything to do with them.
Time wounds all heels.
He's young and attractive and apparently quite seductive, rapidly reading your needs and providing them.
As narcissists grow older, their attraction and sexual magnetism fades and they usually end up alone and bitter, as nobody will have anything to do with them.
Time wounds all heels.
Well he had met her couple of times before apparently and spoke horrendously about her to me but I know what you mean. Yes they would have been drunk. My mind has a way of catastrophising and in my head they will be married etc this year, need to work on that. Going to pretend he doesn't exist now, that he has gone away.
Just keep in mind that when and if you do see them in public, that guy you're seeing is actually not the same guy you imagined him to be -- he's an immature, selfish bully that only looks like the guy in your imagination. Just keep that in mind... and don't interact with either one of them. She's currently his puppet or his drinking/drugging buddy, so don't interact with her even out of sympathy.
Time reveals all things. Time will also make him not so attractive. :-)
Have you thought of something to do for you today (or tomorrow?) Maybe do your hair, paint your nails, bake yourself a single serve of chocolate chip cookies, have a jog or do some yoga. Do something that makes you feel valuable and beautiful, because you are.
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Now, Glenjo... just in case they do get married... keep in mind that he did trash talk her to you. So that means he will have a wife that's he's trash talking to people. The only thing him being married should mean to you is that he has managed to hypnotize a gullible woman down the aisle. The day that she figures out what's really happening will be the day that she shows up on this forum (we hope), saying that she's trapped in an abusive marriage to an addict who possibly has an incurable personality disorder.
Just keep in mind that when and if you do see them in public, that guy you're seeing is actually not the same guy you imagined him to be -- he's an immature, selfish bully that only looks like the guy in your imagination. Just keep that in mind... and don't interact with either one of them. She's currently his puppet or his drinking/drugging buddy, so don't interact with her even out of sympathy.
Time reveals all things. Time will also make him not so attractive. :-)
Have you thought of something to do for you today (or tomorrow?) Maybe do your hair, paint your nails, bake yourself a single serve of chocolate chip cookies, have a jog or do some yoga. Do something that makes you feel valuable and beautiful, because you are.
Just keep in mind that when and if you do see them in public, that guy you're seeing is actually not the same guy you imagined him to be -- he's an immature, selfish bully that only looks like the guy in your imagination. Just keep that in mind... and don't interact with either one of them. She's currently his puppet or his drinking/drugging buddy, so don't interact with her even out of sympathy.
Time reveals all things. Time will also make him not so attractive. :-)
Have you thought of something to do for you today (or tomorrow?) Maybe do your hair, paint your nails, bake yourself a single serve of chocolate chip cookies, have a jog or do some yoga. Do something that makes you feel valuable and beautiful, because you are.
I won't interact with either of them. I had thought if I saw her on her own I might ask her what she knows about us, or warn her off, but in heinsight I think no contact with either is best. I have walked the dog and been to the gym today. Meeting a friend for coffee later.
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Reading a book just now about becoming who we really are. This line stood out, "and since it is easier to imagine the 'fantasty' life of the other, we remain stubbornly unsatisfied with our own". It is actually so easy to imagine his fantasy life than to work on my own. Time to change that.
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Wow, I love that. My fantasy about my ABF was so so lovely. I can still taste it decades later even though I know it was just a happy, toxic delusion.
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Wow still decades later? Just shows the impact these relationships can have. My fantasy too is amazing, makes me feel warm inside. Problem is it doesn't exist 😂
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