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Old 06-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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Court-ordered Alcohol Testing question

I have a court-ordered alcohol testing as part of my divorce settlement. My STBAXH is subject to alcohol testing. If anyone can give me feedback on your experience on what type of testing do they do when they test for alcohol in the body at testing facility such as urine, blood, salvia, hair or ETG testing?
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Does it matter?

My guess would be breath or urine. Think I just answered my question! Not many times I'd be thinking, "I really want to be sure I'm ready to pee." At least, not since my last pregnancy.

Does the divorce settlement say where or how often you need to have this done?

Is doing a blood test any more reliable?
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Does it matter?

My guess would be breath or urine. Think I just answered my question! Not many times I'd be thinking, "I really want to be sure I'm ready to pee." At least, not since my last pregnancy.

Does the divorce settlement say where or how often you need to have this done?

Is doing a blood test any more reliable?

Mango212, you are too funny! On the divorce settlement it states he would need to be tested at National Toxicology. I just looked up the operation hours and they are open only during the week. He has them on weekends so if he ever were to come and pick appearing under the influence he wouldn't be able to be tested until Monday when they open : / and by then it would most likely be out of his system. After 3 failed tested then he would have supervised visits. I just wanted to see if anyone else had any experiences with this.
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What about Soberlink instead?
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:57 AM
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National Toxicology Specialists implements and manages Professional Monitoring Programs, simplifies the testing process, insures compliance and saves you time.
I'm curious.

It's really good for me to see words and phrases like these. It gives me great hope, again and again, as I find more professionals who deal with alcoholism. For years I thought it was my job to do these things, but that put me in a dangerous role I was never meant to be in. Coming in between an addict of any kind and their drug of choice is both dangerous and necessary when kids are involved.
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There are testing centers open until midnight, one may have to drive a little further but detox centers offer breathalyzers for walk in court ordered tests.

One thing that I found to be common among those using the detox centers; people would drink late at night (after breathalyzing around 11:30 pm) and then wait until late the next day to blow.

People learn quickly how long to wait, how many drinks they can have the night before, and how to get it out of the system. I hate to admit that I was one of them.....many moons ago.

Hope this helps...WF
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What about Soberlink instead?
In my original petition I requested SoberLink. He told me that if I tried pushing for it during the divorce settlement he would fight it and ask for overnights visitation because he cant afford to pay for it. I stupidly gave into his intimidation.
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I'm curious.

It's really good for me to see words and phrases like these. It gives me great hope, again and again, as I find more professionals who deal with alcoholism. For years I thought it was my job to do these things, but that put me in a dangerous role I was never meant to be in. Coming in between an addict of any kind and their drug of choice is both dangerous and necessary when kids are involved.
Yes I am glad they have programs like these because they help give proof that there is a drug or alcohol problem with an individual.
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Thank you Mango for the beautiful prayer.
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There are testing centers open until midnight, one may have to drive a little further but detox centers offer breathalyzers for walk in court ordered tests.

One thing that I found to be common among those using the detox centers; people would drink late at night (after breathalyzing around 11:30 pm) and then wait until late the next day to blow.

People learn quickly how long to wait, how many drinks they can have the night before, and how to get it out of the system. I hate to admit that I was one of them.....many moons ago.

Hope this helps...WF

I have thought about that. Im sure my X will find a way to bet the system. It makes me nervous and its scary.
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My court order wording has a window for random testing before or after visitation for supervised UA's (urine analysis) which detects ETG - the by-product produced after alcohol consumption. Even if the alcohol has left the system. The window was a 24 hour window before or after a visitation took place. Where I live, it was my understanding I couldn't force a hair follicle test, only a judge could do that with enough probable cause ... which the judge did. In my case, drug use and alcohol were both being tested for. Also, had wording included that specified the UA's were to be "witnessed" by a lab technician at the facility. This kind of random drug testing set up is flawed, IMHO. However, what helped was a failure to comply equaled a positive test result. Hopefully, you have wording detailing the consequences for a failed or missed test.
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In addition to what Gm said about consequences for a failed or missed test, you also hopefully will define "diluted" as "failure," with the same consequences. Diluting their pee is a way As get around urine tests.

Also, it's good to have UAs "witnessed" - and temperature tested. Apparently there is such a thing as a "fake penis" in which the addict stores "clean" pee. Who knew?
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Also, it's good to have UAs "witnessed" - and temperature tested. Apparently there is such a thing as a "fake penis" in which the addict stores "clean" pee. Who knew?
LOL I'm a certified DOT UA collector and I have seen some stuff...my favorite was the condom full of urine that fell out of the dudes pant leg and rolled across the floor.
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LOL I'm a certified DOT UA collector and I have seen some stuff...my favorite was the condom full of urine that fell out of the dudes pant leg and rolled across the floor.
Omg...
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