new here and fiance needs help
It is absurd. And exhausting. Take care of you through all this.
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I'm so happy you found this place. If you stick around you will see that when we welcome one another we really mean it when we are glad you're here. Because we know it's one more person that is making an attempt at getting their own life back.
If she was just pulled over, it probably means it wasn't her first time drinking or having been drinking, when driving the bus. It is extremely rare that people get caught doing something wrong the first time. More than likely it's because we stop being so careful.
Stay, hang out and read. You will gain some knowledge and hopefully some strength.
I agree with the others, have her call her own re-hab prospects. I would even insist she tell her parents how bad off everything is. Has she ever had complaints about her driving before this?
If she was just pulled over, it probably means it wasn't her first time drinking or having been drinking, when driving the bus. It is extremely rare that people get caught doing something wrong the first time. More than likely it's because we stop being so careful.
Stay, hang out and read. You will gain some knowledge and hopefully some strength.
I agree with the others, have her call her own re-hab prospects. I would even insist she tell her parents how bad off everything is. Has she ever had complaints about her driving before this?
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IHA, if your fiancé has been suspended from work, and you are working, why isn't she making these calls?
Is she doing anything herself to get herself out of this mess, or is she leaving the mop-up work to you?
Is she doing anything herself to get herself out of this mess, or is she leaving the mop-up work to you?
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Some of the biggest regrets of my relationship with my ex center around all the times I "helped" him fix some mess he'd created for himself. I didn't realize that I wasn't really helping him at all, but enabling his alcoholism to progress and flourish. You aren't even slightly responsible for this. These are her consequences for her choices.
His normal routine after some big disaster- jail, emergency room, whatever, was to come home and immediately start drinking again. It's alcoholic thinking, trying to find logic in it will only make you crazy.
I agree with others who have suggested getting some support from yourself. I attend Al-anon meetings and have had great results from that.
His normal routine after some big disaster- jail, emergency room, whatever, was to come home and immediately start drinking again. It's alcoholic thinking, trying to find logic in it will only make you crazy.
I agree with others who have suggested getting some support from yourself. I attend Al-anon meetings and have had great results from that.
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We met with the attorney this morning. He said he will not represent her if she comes intoxicated to court. Hopefully, me and her parents can keep her sober the day before. There may be a lawsuit against her and the bus company in the future. At this point, it seems like a bad nightmare.
Nightmares come unbidden from our subconscious as we sleep, and we are at their mercy until we wake up
I'm afraid your situation was a lot more predictable than a nightmare. The better news is that you are not at its mercy until it is over. Allowing your fiance to feel the consequences of her own actions is the kindest and most loving thing you can do for her as long as she continues burying her head in the sand.
She put children's lives at risk and got in a heap of trouble for it. There are ways out of her predicament, but they all start with her admitting there is a problem. The likelihood of her doing that while there are all these people around buffering her from her consequences? Not good.
I'm afraid your situation was a lot more predictable than a nightmare. The better news is that you are not at its mercy until it is over. Allowing your fiance to feel the consequences of her own actions is the kindest and most loving thing you can do for her as long as she continues burying her head in the sand.
She put children's lives at risk and got in a heap of trouble for it. There are ways out of her predicament, but they all start with her admitting there is a problem. The likelihood of her doing that while there are all these people around buffering her from her consequences? Not good.
Hopefully, me and her parents can keep her sober the day before.
I hope for peace for you - through detachment. Court is for HER, lawsuit is for HER, fines are for HER. It is difficult, but you can turn your focus to a happy and healthy life for YOU!
She is an adult. She made a horrible, life- altering choice, probably not for the first time.
The more you and her parents cushion her from the reality of her situation and try to micromanage her to mitigate the consequences of HER choices, the less incentive she had to change.
I understand that feeling of shock, that this can't possibly be your life. It seems like you are on autopilot, just doing the same things that I would guess you've been doing throughout this relationship- cleaning up her messes for her, taking on the responsibility for her actions.
All your posts are about what you're doing for her- calling rehabs, taking her to meet lawyers, trying to keep her sober for court.
What is she doing for herself? Drinking and denying and trying to blame shift.
What are you doing for yourself? You matter too. Your life does not have to revolve around her drunken shenanigans.
I'm interested in hearing about you. Did you grow up in a home with substance abuse? Is this your first alcoholic relationship, or do you have a pattern of falling for unhealthy women? Have you read any of the stickies on alcoholism or the relationship dynamics that result from one partner being an addict or alcoholic? Have you looked for an Al-Anon meeting?
She is going to do what she is going to do. You can make changes for yourself. This is a terrible way to live.
The more you and her parents cushion her from the reality of her situation and try to micromanage her to mitigate the consequences of HER choices, the less incentive she had to change.
I understand that feeling of shock, that this can't possibly be your life. It seems like you are on autopilot, just doing the same things that I would guess you've been doing throughout this relationship- cleaning up her messes for her, taking on the responsibility for her actions.
All your posts are about what you're doing for her- calling rehabs, taking her to meet lawyers, trying to keep her sober for court.
What is she doing for herself? Drinking and denying and trying to blame shift.
What are you doing for yourself? You matter too. Your life does not have to revolve around her drunken shenanigans.
I'm interested in hearing about you. Did you grow up in a home with substance abuse? Is this your first alcoholic relationship, or do you have a pattern of falling for unhealthy women? Have you read any of the stickies on alcoholism or the relationship dynamics that result from one partner being an addict or alcoholic? Have you looked for an Al-Anon meeting?
She is going to do what she is going to do. You can make changes for yourself. This is a terrible way to live.
Yup, if she drinks before court, I'd let that lie squarely in her lap. "Cleaning her up for court" does NO one any good.
You'd need to find out from a lawyer in your jurisdiction, but I seriously doubt anyone can file a successful lawsuit when there were no damages. Being afraid for your child's safety isn't a compensable injury. Of course, anyone can sue anyone for anything, but this doesn't sound like something anyone could win.
OTOH, if she continues as she is, sooner or later she IS likely to cause damage or injury to someone.
I know it's hard, but I'd suggest sitting on your hands except for providing support/assistance if she asks for your help in seeking recovery. But even then, don't do for her what she should be doing for herself.
You'd need to find out from a lawyer in your jurisdiction, but I seriously doubt anyone can file a successful lawsuit when there were no damages. Being afraid for your child's safety isn't a compensable injury. Of course, anyone can sue anyone for anything, but this doesn't sound like something anyone could win.
OTOH, if she continues as she is, sooner or later she IS likely to cause damage or injury to someone.
I know it's hard, but I'd suggest sitting on your hands except for providing support/assistance if she asks for your help in seeking recovery. But even then, don't do for her what she should be doing for herself.
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We met with the attorney this morning. He said he will not represent her if she comes intoxicated to court. Hopefully, me and her parents can keep her sober the day before. There may be a lawsuit against her and the bus company in the future. At this point, it seems like a bad nightmare.
I dont blame the attorney for requiring her to be sober. Is she still consuming alcohol in the house, or is she going out to get it? Shes not going to be capable of rational thought until she sobers up. I wonder what the judge would do if she showed up intoxicated? Its not like she would be coherent enough to put under oath. Hmm .
I hope her parents can be of support to you both.
I dont consider what your doing enabling or preventing consequences. My inlaws helped find a quality rehab for my husband, got him good legal representation, and friends physically removed him from an unsafe environment. The core consequences didnt change for him due to anyones assistance. All we did was put together the pieces of support he needed to get through the situation. He still had plenty to do on his own to work through it all.
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I dont consider what your doing enabling or preventing consequences. My inlaws helped find a quality rehab for my husband, got him good legal representation, and friends physically removed him from an unsafe environment. The core consequences didnt change for him due to anyones assistance. All we did was put together the pieces of support he needed to get through the situation. He still had plenty to do on his own to work through it all.
I hear what your saying Blue, but I'm afraid I don't really see it the same way.
I think keeping her sober so the attorney doesn't drop her would qualify as changing a core consequence.
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I know people said we were wrong in what we did with my husband but I never felt like it, and it turned out fine for him in regards to recovering.
I feel she will end up before a judge regardless if its delayed or not by the attorney backing out or asking for a continuance. It will just delay thee process but wont change the outcome.
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Update. My fiance went to court this morning. We discovered that actual prison time may be a result. The attorney wants to get her into rehab before the court orders it. He said it will look good. She is currently on a waiting list. I don't think she needs prison time. She is obviously.
Hello and welcome! I'm so very sorry that you're going through this, but I agree, you might want to reconsider the marriage as much as you love her. I had 2 friends. One who drank occasionally and her boyfriend, who was a straight up alcoholic. He drank all day, every day bec. he was on unemployment. He would sneak out of the house to say he was working on his truck, but he would have a case of beer in it. She has a really good job and she would work all day, only to come home to him "sleeping", which was really him just passed out. However! She still went through with the wedding, which was a beautiful one. His sister had to BEG him to stay sober for his own wedding!! To make a long story short? They should've never got married. They are now divorced after not even 3 years together. He is now worse than he's ever been.
Good luck to you and SR has some amazing people that will help you through this horrible time in your life.
Personally, I could never be with someone after they did something THAT bad!! Children or adults!! Their life was in HER hands and she put them all in serious jeopardy. There is NO excuse for that and you shouldn't be stuck having to clean her mess up, let alone feel like you are ANY part of the blame!!
Good luck to you and SR has some amazing people that will help you through this horrible time in your life.
Personally, I could never be with someone after they did something THAT bad!! Children or adults!! Their life was in HER hands and she put them all in serious jeopardy. There is NO excuse for that and you shouldn't be stuck having to clean her mess up, let alone feel like you are ANY part of the blame!!
I believe you said she was arrested for felony DUI.
I am not at all familiar with the dui process. I have never had one and my XABF could not hold a job long enough to own a car.
Anyhow, not to be harsh and I know you love her and want to help,but you don't seem to see the circumstances for what they are .....
if I understand correctly she was driving a school bus full of children drunk. I am sure the parents of those children feel prison isn't such a bad call.
I am not at all familiar with the dui process. I have never had one and my XABF could not hold a job long enough to own a car.
Anyhow, not to be harsh and I know you love her and want to help,but you don't seem to see the circumstances for what they are .....
if I understand correctly she was driving a school bus full of children drunk. I am sure the parents of those children feel prison isn't such a bad call.
My guess is that it's some kind of "official misconduct" charge or some kind of endangering the welfare of children charge that is potentially out there, rather than just a DWI. DWIs rarely result in jail time for a first offense unless there was injury or prior convictions.
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Lex, she was also charged with possession of an unauthorized prescription. She had a few pills of xanex. She told me she was using them to control the morning shakes. I guess they had to test it at the lab. It seems to be getting worse and worse.
Morning shakes? Please know that this is a sign of progressed alcoholism.
I am so sorry you are going through this.... but may I suggest looking towards the future for a moment...? This is not going to be a one time incident if she continues drinking. I tend to agree with SeriousKarma, that "keeping her sober" for court isn't really anyone else's responsibility but her own. Coming together to help someone who shows a want to get sober is an entirely different situation.
I am so sorry you are going through this.... but may I suggest looking towards the future for a moment...? This is not going to be a one time incident if she continues drinking. I tend to agree with SeriousKarma, that "keeping her sober" for court isn't really anyone else's responsibility but her own. Coming together to help someone who shows a want to get sober is an entirely different situation.
We discovered that actual prison time may be a result
if YOUR child had been on a school bus and had an accident and it turned out that the DRIVER of that bus was DRUNK, wouldn't you want that person to suffer the consequences? CHILDREN could have been injured or KILLED due to her stupid choices. she didn't care enough about the children in her care to not DRINK before navigating the vehicle. she put children's LIVES at risk.
i'd want that person put away. I wouldn't CARE if they had a drinking problem, or what program might be best for THEM.
what is your wife doing now? is she sober?
if YOUR child had been on a school bus and had an accident and it turned out that the DRIVER of that bus was DRUNK, wouldn't you want that person to suffer the consequences? CHILDREN could have been injured or KILLED due to her stupid choices. she didn't care enough about the children in her care to not DRINK before navigating the vehicle. she put children's LIVES at risk.
i'd want that person put away. I wouldn't CARE if they had a drinking problem, or what program might be best for THEM.
what is your wife doing now? is she sober?
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Update. My fiance went to court this morning. We discovered that actual prison time may be a result. The attorney wants to get her into rehab before the court orders it. He said it will look good. She is currently on a waiting list. I don't think she needs prison time. She is obviously.
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